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iPad 3 announcement
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thedrewser
08-03-2012
Originally Posted by Matt D:
“Do you have an Apple Store nearby? If so, pop in after launch and compare the two. If not, wait for some reviews and user comments.

I'd pay the extra £70, though...I think it would be worth it for the increase in resolution and in graphics, especially given you want to use it for TV and games.

But the best thing to do is see it for yourself.”

Yep, blessed in having 2 stores in or around Glasgow so might ask the missus if she fancies a day at the shops? But alas, she'll know what I'm upto.
noise747
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by jjesso123:
“Why do you want it when there is many services that don't use it for mobile devices, HTLM5 is the future.”

Maybe so, but You tube still don't use it for all their videos and the BBC news site still don't use HTML5.


I still don't see the point in these pad things anyway.
bayards
09-03-2012
I can't make my mind up. I had an original ipad which was OK. I then ditched it late last year for an Android Asus tablet and I liked that as Flash was back. I've now updated my phone and ditched the tablet.....

Nothing on new ipad is tempting me yet...if I get my new job I might....
PiazzaCharlie
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by thedrewser:
“I'm hoping to buy an iPad in May as a 40th birthday present. Probably the 16gb wifi model. Question is, is the new iPad worth the extra £70 over iPad2? I suspect yes but need to convince the wife.

I want it for tv (particularly Sky) and games. Thinking its wirth getting the retina display (especially as I'm used to it on my iPhone 4S).”

I would say yes, definitely. Someone else said that you never heard anyone moan about the iPad 2 screen. That doesn't mean that the new one won't be way better. I remember looking at an iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 side by side when it had the retina display and the difference was huge.

My advice would be to visit a store and look at an iPad 2 and a new one side by side and see if you can tell the difference. I'd bet my house it'll be no contest.
IvanIV
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by slick1two:
“OK so the new iPad is not a quad core device. What it actually has it a multi core graphics chip. So spec wise its not a massive leap over the iPad 2. Not to be confused with what the Asus transformer prime has with a genuine quad core processor. So is the A5x chip still really a dual core cpu with a multi core graphics chip? Apple are very hazy with their tech specs.”

I think they put computing power where it matters most. All those raster computations can benefit greatly from multiple processors, they can divide screen into regions and work almost independently. While a parallelism in an application and across applications is always a big question mark.
edEx
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“I think they put computing power where it matters most. All those raster computations can benefit greatly from multiple processors, they can divide screen into regions and work almost independently. While a parallelism in an application and across applications is always a big question mark.”

I also wonder whether OSX's capabilities to pass numeric computation tasks to the graphics hardware has been implemented in iOS. If so, it means that the iPad could potentially also use all of those cores for regular computing should it need to.
alanwarwic
09-03-2012
I'd hazard a guess that it is pretty much the same as that one supplied to Sony but with half the number of CPU's.
I'd imagine the quad core CPU needs some extra software work or is costed for iPad 4.

I'd be quite surprised if it is not a Samsung.
Roush
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“I'd hazard a guess that it is pretty much the same as that one supplied to Sony but with half the number of CPU's.
I'd imagine the quad core CPU needs some extra software work or is costed for iPad 4.

I'd be quite surprised if it is not a Samsung.”

All of the current range of Apple chips are designed in house by Apple's hardware engineers. Samsung only manufacture them.

Sure, there will be some similarities with the SoC in the PS Vita as they are both based on the same CPU core architecture and the same GPU but the A5(X) has quite a bit of proprietary Apple stuff in there too such as the ISP and the core IO bridge.
alanwarwic
09-03-2012
Apple will move away from Samsung as soon as they are competent.
An ARM license doe not make you competent overnight.

The best I would say is that it is Apple Samsung teamwork.
Izak
09-03-2012
I've pre-ordered one. I never had the iPad 1 or 2 and wanted to get one last year but couldn't afford one at the time.

I'm really looking forward to it. I have a 1st generation iPod Touch which is stuck with iOS 3 so loads of apps will no longer work or update so it'll be great to have a big screen, plus all the new features of iOS 4 and iOS 5.

I opted for the WiFi only 32GB version. I did debate whether to opt for the 3G/4G version but most places I'll be using it will already have WiFi so it seems little point. The only thing I'm wondering is if I should have gone for the 64GB one.
Roush
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“Apple will move away from Samsung as soon as they are competent.
An ARM license doe not make you competent overnight.

The best I would say is that it is Apple Samsung teamwork.”

Haha, you couldn't be further from the truth.

Prior to mid-2010 Apple bought Cortex A8 designs from Intrinsity (who were the first people to have an A8 running at a stable 1 GHz). In April 2010 Apple bought Intrinsity and began working on Cortex A9 based CPU cores.

Intrinsity also supplied designs to Samsung at this point. Samsung were forced to move their Cortex developments in house after Apple's purchase of Intrinsity, so no, Samsung have nothing to do with the design of Apple chips. It is purely a manufacture and supply arrangement.

Since Apple acquired one of the cutting edge ARM core developers any suggestion that the team that came over from Intrinsity is not competent in ARM core and SoC design is ridiculous.
alanwarwic
09-03-2012
They teamed up with Samsung you get their ARM chips out.
Just maybe Apple snapped them up to grab the Samsung Intrinsity knowledge pool.

There is certainly some customisation to those existing Samsung parts which Intrinsity helped Samsung with on circuitry.

One thing for certain is that it was clever strategy buying up a Samsung partner, but its still only Samsung who made lots of ARM chips going back years.
late8
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“They teamed up with Samsung you get their ARM chips out.
Just maybe Apple snapped them up to grab the Samsung Intrinsity knowledge pool.

There is certainly some customisation to those existing Samsung parts which Intrinsity helped Samsung with on circuitry.

One thing for certain is that it was clever strategy buying up a Samsung partner, but its still only Samsung who made lots of ARM chips going back years.”

Apple have also approached Samsung about OLED and flexible OLED screens.
dadioflex
09-03-2012
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/09/app...gineers-chips/

Apple has over a 1000 hardware engineers working on chips alone. They ain't exactly dabbling in the field.
Sylva
09-03-2012
Hi, it is my 21st in a few weeks and I was thinking of buying an IPad to replace my severely breaking down laptop. I'm mainly gonna use it for the internet, Skype, MSN and stuff like that so would the 16GB be enough? or would I be better getting a 32 or 64?
Joel's dad
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by Sylva:
“Hi, it is my 21st in a few weeks and I was thinking of buying an IPad to replace my severely breaking down laptop. I'm mainly gonna use it for the internet, Skype, MSN and stuff like that so would the 16GB be enough? or would I be better getting a 32 or 64?”

As long as your not going to use it for music or video you should be fine with a 16gb.

But if you can afford the 32 I would go for that, if you can't, you will make it work!!
Sylva
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by Joel's dad:
“As long as your not going to use it for music or video you should be fine with a 16gb.

But if you can afford the 32 I would go for that, if you can't, you will make it work!!”

I can afford it, I have £5000 of student loans to eat up(hehehe) and I'll be using it at home mainly so getting the wifi version will be best, wont it? that has free internet, correct?
alanwarwic
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by dadioflex:
“http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/09/app...gineers-chips/
Apple has over a 1000 hardware engineers working on chips alone. They ain't exactly dabbling in the field.”

Even that is ambiguous make what you want of it stuff.

Yet with $100 billion spare cash, there is enough in the kitty to employ 1 million people.
John259
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by Sylva:
“that has free internet, correct?”

In the sense that it can connect to an existing wireless router, yes. But you'll need to continue paying your monthly ISP bill.
Sylva
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by John259:
“In the sense that it can connect to an existing wireless router, yes. But you'll need to continue paying your monthly ISP bill.”

Well yes, the one my laptop is connected too would be sufficent..I think. My Laptop, Ipod touch, DSi and 3DS are connected to it, so the Ipad would connect too, wouldnt it?

I know I sound like a noob but I really dont wanna buy the wrong one and pay a monthly fee lol
John259
09-03-2012
Originally Posted by Sylva:
“Well yes, the one my laptop is connected too would be sufficent..I think. My Laptop, Ipod touch, DSi and 3DS are connected to it, so the Ipad would connect too, wouldnt it?”

I'm virtually certain it would but it might be best to hang fire a bit just in case someone more knowledgeable wants to comment.
PiazzaCharlie
09-03-2012
Yes - if you have a wireless network in your home, then the wifi iPad will connect to it just like any other device, at no additional charge.

I always thought I'd get a wifi one, but went for 3G as well - then at least its there if its ever needed, eg train journeys. Will get an Orange PAYG sim, and make the money back on their Orange Wednesdays and Films to Go!
Matt D
09-03-2012
It'll be fine. If a DS can connect to the router, the iPad certainly can!

As for size... If all you were going to use it for was browsing and chatting, then yeah 16GB would be fine. But you may then find yourself using it for more, wanting more apps on it, thinking maybe you'd like to stick some videos on it, etc. ... Depends on usage. I'd give it a good think before making a decision...
Sylva
09-03-2012
Right ok, thank you everyone I appreciate it

I think I'll splash out for the 64GB, I may as well enjoy myself lol
Joel's dad
09-03-2012
Also If you think about resell value the 16gb is the least valuable
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