It'll render, but with massive great white space on either side. They *shouldn't* be fixed width, but many are. I've given a couple of examples already.

Yes I'm sure some obscure website might not have basic modern website design but really that is a weak argument to fall back on.

Any website worth anything renders fine.

BBC News, Apple store? both fixed width.

You really think the bbc will ignore how it is rendered on the ipad?

Sorry but apple even drove flash out of mobile market, you just don't ignore apple.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5...o-wide-in-ipad
Ios may scale regardless anyways.

You mean like how the Beeb have ditched every single use of flash on their website....oh wait...


Don't get me wrong, I'm sure, in time, websites will adjust that "1000 width" to 1200 or 1500. Or rely on the fact that ipad users are quite happy to download an app instead of go into the main site. But lets not pretend that everything will straightaway be much shinier when using a new resolution. It won't.


Yeah I figured the obvious workaround is for the browser to just double everything up. Makes the wonderful resolution a bit of a waste on webpage images though eh? Text, as you say will benefit from the a higher resolution, so the pixels you can't see on the ipad2 will be even less visible on the ipad3.

With the fees these days you need £100 profit to cover the £50 final value fee. I'm sure last year very few made a profit especially those selling 16GB's at around £415.

All the people in this thread who talk about the increased resolution being a ho hum upgrade obviously have got 20/20 vision. You can discuss ad nauseum whether you can see individual pixels, but all I know is that for someone like me who marginally needs reading glasses the difference between the 3GS and the iPhone 4 was startling. I used to use reading glasses most of the time with the 3GS, I now never use them with the 4. If there is a similar difference with the new iPad it will be revolutionary as far as I am concerned (and probably for most of the population aged over 35).

I'm pretty sure the iPad will scale the site to fit the full screen like it currently does when you turn the iPad landscape from portrait ATM, there won't be any white margins at either side.

I don't see the problem with fixed width websites anyway. I'd rather have a site that resembled a sheet of paper on the screen, than one that resembled a measuring tape across the screen!

On the subject of whether or not spec is the be all and end all, this article sums it up pretty well:

ipad article

He hit the nail on the head...

i think the big game-changer will be windows tablets.

to be honest im an android user but once i can get a tablet that is truly integrated with my home (and potentially office) environment then thats when things will really be interesting.

and i know there are windows tablets out there but windows currently isnt very touch friendly (I have a touch-screen PC running windows 7).

I reckon microsoft have one chance at it with Windows 8. It could be a very interesting year

As for Apple/Android I expect they will level out soon with Android taking the inevitable lead over the two - as more people have android phones now than iPhones the tide is bound to turn (Q4 2011 iPad had 'dropped' to 60% of the market).

Will Apple disappear ? No.
Will they go bust ? No
Will they sell LESS units ? Possibly not as the market is still growing
Will they have a lower PERCENTAGE market share ? Definitely

Do I want Apple to disappear ? No. Whilst we have 2 or 3 major players we ALL benefit.


But if Microsoft get it right we could end up seeing both Android and Apple taking niche slots only....

I disagree.

I like Windows on PC but even a Windows 7 phone as a tablet would have no appeal to me.

Also very few Apple Ipad users care about doing PC things like word editing. Ipad can do so much more.

Offcourse Android tablet users hope for alternatives but the truth is the Ipad will continue to fill the market share like the Ipod.

I'm not so sure - the article above makes a good case as to why the iPad will be more like the iPod than the iPhone.

People like Apple products especially IOS.

Windows will be like Android and try and offer an alternative. One nobody wants.

Other manufacturers fail to innovate. I'm a windows user but it's better than mac but it's functional that's all. I prefer IOS.

sorry .... im not 'hoping for alternatives' ??? what a stupid thing to say

and the idea that an ipad can do more than a PC is plain ignorant .... simple example - I want to watch a video whilst editing an excel spreadsheet and keeping an eye on a news website .... your iPad cant do that and nor can my android tablet (although Android now has a beta version that can show multiple live screens).

Im an IT consultant and have been for 20 years. Most companies I contract to are 99% Windows - mostly still XP. Many are 'trying' to integrate iPads for execs (none are trying Android) but there are LOTS of issues with this. Should Microsoft manage to allow a solution that provides the full Windows experience in an iPad (or probably more an ASUS Transformer) type package then it will really blow the market wide open.

This isnt some Android fanboy ranting - this is purely common sense. If you really think the iPad (or any Android tablet) can do more than a Windows tablet would be capable of then you are deluded.

My only allegiance is to whoever makes me the best unit that suits MY needs. Currently its Android, it may soon be Windows. If Apple wasnt so locked down and tied in to itunes then it might even be Apple.

I know a fair bit about computers but where a tablet is concerned, I want something simple to use with some great features and a nice screen. With Apple, all you have to do is decide what size of memory you need and if you need 3G/4G or not. Fairly easy. With an Android tablet, you have several makes and models to look at. Some offer nice large, high res screens, some have cameras, some have keyboards, some have powerful processors, some don't. Some have Android Gingerbread, some have Ice Cream Sandwich. For anyone who has limited knowledge of computers, the Android market can be quite confusing. So that is part of the reason why the iPad has been so successful.

I'm not saying there's anything bad about Android. While I'm getting an iPad 3 now. I may get a Android tablet as well some time in the near(ish) future, maybe when Google releases a Nexus version.

As for Windows. I don't really like the design of Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 doesn't look much better so I very much doubt me going down that route.

I think you have hit the nail on the head of why IPADs are so dominant. They are newish technology, with a lot of people still only buying their first one.

For most people they have a choice of Apple or Android. With Apple, they know they can just buy one, and it will have a big Apps store, a decent spec, the apple eco system, and have a good design.

With Android, there is several tabs, all with differing specs, with people saying x is better for this, but y is better for that. You have several versions of the operating system, its just all too confusing for a first time buyer, or a non tech person.

Apple have also manage to advertise the whole ecosystem, where everything looks the same, and is simple. Again with Android, it can probably do everything that Apple can, but it hasnt got that over to the public so well, and it just feels like loads of different apps, that look and act differently for android, rather than a unified suite.

The Apple ecosystem is a serious down side for many though.

I think this is possibly one of the best posts I've seen for a long while. Genuinely.

It all goes back to marketing and communication which I've always said apple are superb at. They have cornered the market for those who want to walk into a shop and see a choice of three rather than thirty three.

And no I'm not saying that all apple users don't do research ......

Agreed

It might be a serious downside for many more techie types, who maybe prefer to build their own PCs and the like, but I don't think it is to most regular consumers. You only have to look at the phenomenal success of the App stores to see that.

I remember the walled garden approach of early cable tv - it was incredibly lame, and mostly consisted of ad based websites that you could access. Apple App ecosystem may be closed, but I don't see that as such a problem, when the range of content is as huge as it is, and has some degree of quality control.

I agree. I'm quite techie in a way, I've built my own PC in the past and like dabbling in the more technical side of computers but I find the App Store brilliant. Everything is so easy to find and install, plus it must give developers a far better shot at getting their software out there without having to find a publisher.

I also quite like iTunes too as all my iPod/iPad data is in one easy to use place, just add the stuff you want, press sync and its done.

Maybe I'm an odd one out, but I don't mind the walled garden/locked approach if it makes life easy and Apple have certainly made everything easy on iOS.

I have a friend who is really techie, he has numerous computers, mobile phones and tablets. He used to have an iPhone but swapped to Android as he couldn't 'hack' the iPhone enough! In fact everything he buys from Nintendo 3DS, PS Vita, mobile phone to tablets all have custom firmware on them. I just couldn't be bothered with all of that.

Even if Windows tablets find there way into office it's not going to stop casual users buying Ipad's it it? As I say they will have there market.

And what does Android have that the Ipad does out of interest?

I actually think what made the Ipad as good was IOS to be honest. When you see the apps at the press announcement on Android vs Apple it's easy to see why Ipad is winning. Of the Android tablets I liked the first 7" Galaxy as it wasn't trying to be an Ipad.

well I have an ASUS Transformer which DEFINITELY isnt trying to be an iPad

My personal opinion (and only that) is that I want an OS that does what I want. In my opinion iOS is really just an app launcher... no widgets with only very basic multitasking. I also dont like the fact that Apple is overly controlling on the type of apps available.

I also personally hate itunes running on a windows PC (i hear its much better on Macs).

But thats my opinion. its not right and its not wrong.