Hahaha .... laughing at the idea of Apple fans on the Tube holding their iPads 10cm away from their eyes to get all the real benefit of their new 'kind-of-sort-of-if-you-add-a-few-caveats" retinal (?) display ....

Possibly the most stupid post ive ever read ......

Jeez, you are not the brightest bulb in the box are you?

The comment was whether or not the pixilation was noticeable, not whether or not Tube Commuters would see the difference.

As stated, at MY focal length (approx 10 cm) I can determine no pixiilation on this new screen. That does not mean at arms length with iPad (Gen 2) I cannot see pixilation.

well thank you for your concern about my intellectual level

still chuckling about the total lack of relevance as to whether pixels can or cant be seen at a 10cm viewing distance on a tablet

you still dont quite understand this do you?

tell me, do yoiu have an hd ready or hd tv, do you have a blueray player?

As said, anything is Retina and its certain that at full resolution the new iPad will need to be used closer to the eye by the 'average user'.

So all that heat comes from the beast of a backlight then.
1280X960 would have given 17 hours or so battery life and have been my preference of screen.

Satans taint Alan, read up on the tech you choose to comment on.
http://www.displaymate.com/iPad_ShootOut_1.htm

you can keep linking to the same site if you want

the internet is full of sites with opinions and standpoints.

You still dont get it that any discussion of viewing a tablet at a 10cm distance is totally irrelevant to the discusion.

Its like saying that one car is better than another because it handles better at 150mph. Whilst it may be true it isnt really relevant ......

I'm still planning to get one at some point for gaming and watching movies whilst travelling. It'll be my first tablet.

Oh FFS.

Yes, "normal viewing distance". For want of a better expression referring to the distance that a device would typically be held from the eyes.

What would you prefer people said?

Im not sure how you can have so much to say about a product you haven't even seen yet ( even if you are supposed to be a so called tech expert )

It's pretty simple. If you have normal eysight you simply cannot see any pixelisation on the iPad 3 screen at normal viewing distances and text looks totally pin sharp. You can on iPad 2/1 and most computer monitors.

Yes phones have a better ppi but in reality the iPad 3 screen looks every bit as sharp as any phone display, and because of the bigger real estate on the ipad it somehow looks a lot better, especially for photos. ( A decent DSLR photo looks amazing on the iPad3 display ).

How would it?

The average person, holding an iPad at a normal viewing distance (feel free to change that to any other phrase you prefer) would notice a difference.

Your argument that "anything is Retina" is a red herring, as clearly it depends on viewing distance as well as resolution. You wouldn't use a tablet device at the same viewing distance as an HD tv for example.

Looks like lots of people do:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/place...s-with-an-ipad

Don't look silly do they?

They have big instant playback so it's bound to be a popular use, even without a memory slot..

I don't have the best vision on the planet but if I have my iPad 2 sitting on the dining table I can see jagged eyes on things like text that aren't there on my iPhones screen.

It isn't such a big deal that I would upgrade to an iPad 3 but anyone that says its hardly noticeable needs their eyes checked.

When is it gonna be released?

If only we new.

Isn't it already out?

We have one at work!

Talking of this retina business though, you would notice if you ever saw an aliased line at 45 degrees. Just like you would on an iphone 4. Its marketing at work.

I hope your ipad 2 wasn't fuzzy! You should have seen square pixels, if not take it back to the shop.

Btw, you folk dissing the retina display dont understand how high res it is. It is 1.5x the res of your 1080p TV in only a few inches!

It's called retina display for a reason, you can look at it from so close that the picture gets burnt into your retina. So if you look elsewhere everything looks fuzzy

on a side note I think flash is being used a lot tonight for a certain video of tulisa.

Erm I never claimed to have seen it and have always suggested a me iPad SHOULD look better than an old one.

My point was that the argument that you can tell the difference when you hold them 10cm from your eyes was a bit pointless!?!

To end the screen debate argument side by side they look similar but after gradual use the Ipad 3 screen looks miles better even at distance. The top bar is brighter, the text is sharper reading websites looks more detailed and crisp than any desktop experience. The Iphone 4S retina is good but it's hard to imagine on a bigger screen.

I really can't put across how sharp websites look. Vibrant and bold text. Retina is what it is you can argue all night. The Ipad 2 has an adequate screen very good infact but the new Ipad has a fantastic screen well worth the upgrade.

Try it and see for yourself. Side by side in the shop doesn't do the new Ipad justice. I thought the same at first looks similar but use it see the difference big time.

I am contemplating buying the new Ipad, my brother is going to the US in May and getting both of us one.

What are the issues with customs and bringing it back to the Uk? Does he have to unbox it and bring it back so as not to be liable for customs taxes?

I could be wrong, but I didn't think something like a single ipad would incur customs charges. Don't forget sales tax (VAT) on top of the advertised price though. Varies from state to state, but usually around 8-12%.

This is my first iPad. Its a fine line with the fuzziness - from a bit of a distance, all those little jaggies can give a slightly fuzzy look, particularly to text.