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Old 06-03-2012, 08:36
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" as they knew all the other manufacturers would follow like sheep. "

Yep, there is a lot of that about.

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Old 06-03-2012, 08:38
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where online is the best place to watch the event?
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:51
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Also the thought of someone looking for the cable, and then getting their phone and tablet connecting them all together just to use a GPS receiver seems comical.
There's no need for a physical connection, you just slide a slider on the phone and the network becomes available on your other device and you connect as if it was any other wifi network. My wife used it to connect her laptop this weekend and it took her all of about 10 seconds.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:32
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Get real I can use what ever words I like... I don't care if you find it acceptable or not to be frank.

Your argument is just daft... i'm not gonna feed it.

We will just have to agree to disagree.
If you read my post carefully, you would have realised that I didnt tell you not to use it.

My argument isnt daft. Its just that it doesnt fit the apple stance, therefore to you it appears daft or I must be a troll. Nice logic you got going there. If you took your apple tinted glasses of, it would make sense. Not having a GPS receiver on a high end device is crap. There is no two ways about it.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:50
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My argument isnt daft. Its just that it doesnt fit the apple stance, therefore to you it appears daft or I must be a troll. Nice logic you got going there. If you took your apple tinted glasses of, it would make sense. Not having a GPS receiver on a high end device is crap. There is no two ways about it.
In your opinion... For millions of people it's not an issue.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:56
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3) Apple innovate (they dont)
Come on Stuart, you can't believe that honestly. Before the iPod MP3 players were only used by computer geeks, the iPhone completely changed the mobile landscape, and the iPad has basically created an entirely new market segment.

Let alone what computers would be like now had the original Macintosh not appeared.

You may not like Apple, and you may find their stuff overpriced, but to say they don't bring anything new to the space just isn't in line with reality.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:01
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Come on Stuart, you can't believe that honestly. Before the iPod MP3 players were only used by computer geeks, the iPhone completely changed the mobile landscape, and the iPad has basically created an entirely new market segment.

Let alone what computers would be like now had the original Macintosh not appeared.

You may not like Apple, and you may find their stuff overpriced, but to say they don't bring anything new to the space just isn't in line with reality.
Indeed, you only have to look the market for MP3 Players, smartphones and tablets before Apple entered the scene.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:31
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In your opinion... For millions of people it's not an issue.
ask those millions if they would want a GPS receiver - most if not all would say yes. I now you certainly would.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:52
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where online is the best place to watch the event?
I've not noticed any of the tech blogs promising video coverage.

I'd say the best bet is to follow along with what the techies are posting on twitter, or their new favourite hangout Google+.

(Don't need to login/register for either:
https://twitter.com/#!/search/ipad
https://plus.google.com/u/0/s/ipad

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Old 06-03-2012, 13:17
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I've not noticed any of the tech blogs promising video coverage.

I'd say the best bet is to follow along with what the techies are posting on twitter, or their new favourite hangout Google+.

(Don't need to login/register for either:
https://twitter.com/#!/search/ipad
https://plus.google.com/u/0/s/ipad

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ty very much
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Old 06-03-2012, 13:20
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ask those millions if they would want a GPS receiver - most if not all would say yes. I now you certainly would.
Then they can buy the version with GPS.. I don't see the problem.

I would like my Toyota to have built in GPS but that was also an extra that I could have paid for.
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Old 06-03-2012, 14:13
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Then they can buy the version with GPS.. I don't see the problem.

I would like my Toyota to have built in GPS but that was also an extra that I could have paid for.
i wouldn't mind paying extra for gps but with having a mifi for 2 ipads and a notebook, i just don't need 3g versions
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Old 06-03-2012, 15:41
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Is it an iPad3 being released or an iPad HD? Lot of talk saying it's the equivalent of what the iPhone 4S is to the iPhone 4. An improvement yes, but not a major upgrade by any means.

Apparently, according to Macrumors the price points are to be the same as iPad 2, yayyyy if true!
Not likely. I think it will cost more to be honest.
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Old 06-03-2012, 15:50
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Then they can buy the version with GPS.. I don't see the problem.
Or buy android, they offer GPS on some of their wifi only tablets. I am sure your well aware of the problem, but you are being deliberately obtuse. A problem you have had to get around by using your phones GPS.

I would like my Toyota to have built in GPS but that was also an extra that I could have paid for.
If you were paying £50K for your Toyota you would expect built in GPS.
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Old 06-03-2012, 17:22
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To tether my iPad 3 to iPhone will cost me £5 per 500Mb on Vodaphone...is 500Mb much for general surfing/email/facebook/doc retrieval ..and how does the cost compare with PAYG sims, recommend any good SIM deals ?
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Old 06-03-2012, 17:32
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To tether my iPad 3 to iPhone will cost me £5 per 500Mb on Vodaphone...is 500Mb much for general surfing/email/facebook/doc retrieval ..and how does the cost compare with PAYG sims, recommend any good SIM deals ?
i have a 3gb Vodafone data deal £10 a month which i use in a mifi

imo Vodafone rip you off with tethering prices but they do new prices plans which include your phone data allowance now
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Old 06-03-2012, 18:19
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Or buy android, they offer GPS on some of their wifi only tablets. I am sure your well aware of the problem, but you are being deliberately obtuse. A problem you have had to get around by using your phones GPS.



If you were paying £50K for your Toyota you would expect built in GPS.
IMO you are one being obtuse as you put it, I dislike Android and the plasticky tablets that run it so that kinda ruled that out for me personally. Also the fragmentation would annoy the hell out of my, my friends with a Galaxy S2 are still waiting on ICS for example.

It's not an issue to use my phones GPS as I would be using it's Internet connection anyway even if I had a 3G iPad.

As for the car, they wanted an extra £500 compared to £100 extra that apple want and they throw in 3G too, so better value from Apple than Toyota.
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Old 06-03-2012, 18:38
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Is it an iPad3 being released or an iPad HD? Lot of talk saying it's the equivalent of what the iPhone 4S is to the iPhone 4. An improvement yes, but not a major upgrade by any means.



Not likely. I think it will cost more to be honest.
I for one would consider the rumoured resolution bump to be a major upgrade.

As for the cost... why would it cost more?

The iPhone 4 cost the same as the 3GS, despite the increase in RAM, the "Apple A4", the improved camera, and the "Retina Screen".

The 4S cost the same as the 4, despite the dual-core "Apple A5", and the improved camera.

The iPad 2 cost the same as the iPad 1 (for 16GB... 32GB & 64GB were actually cheaper than the iPad 1), despite the dual-core "Apple A5", the increased RAM, and the cameras.
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Old 06-03-2012, 18:46
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Is it an iPad3 being released or an iPad HD? Lot of talk saying it's the equivalent of what the iPhone 4S is to the iPhone 4. An improvement yes, but not a major upgrade by any means.



Not likely. I think it will cost more to be honest.
Apple don't have a history (from what I recall) of increasing the price of their new models. Guess we'll just have to see tomorrow.
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Old 06-03-2012, 20:49
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Come on Stuart, you can't believe that honestly. Before the iPod MP3 players were only used by computer geeks, the iPhone completely changed the mobile landscape, and the iPad has basically created an entirely new market segment.

Let alone what computers would be like now had the original Macintosh not appeared.

You may not like Apple, and you may find their stuff overpriced, but to say they don't bring anything new to the space just isn't in line with reality.
Really ...... they don't innovate! Very little they do is new.

However ......they are incredibly (and admirably) good at marketing.

They weren't the first mp3 players
They weren't the first smart phones
They weren't the first touchscreens
They weren't the first tablets

The above is all fact.

BUT. They were the first to successfully market them all to the masses.

Was this because they had a loyal core following or did the core following arrive because of the marketing?

They have been very shrewd somewhere down the line and love them or hate them you have to admire them for that at least.

My point isn't suggesting people shouldn't be allowed to buy apple. Far from it. Competition is good.

But.... if I buy a car, or a TV, or a fridge, or washing machine I shop around, I check reviews, I look at options. I can't comprehend how apple have managed to get blind devotion from their followers

Very few companies manage that .....
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Old 06-03-2012, 21:06
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But.... if I buy a car, or a TV, or a fridge, or washing machine I shop around, I check reviews, I look at options. I can't comprehend how apple have managed to get blind devotion from their followers

Very few companies manage that .....
I do find it amazing that people are talking of buying the ipad3/hd and are even in the process of selling their ipad2 to be ready to pre-order, for a product that we can't even be sure of the name of it yet, let alone the price, any weaknesses, etc. I wonder if people did the same when they were expecting a revolutionary iphone 5 to be unveiled last year....
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Old 06-03-2012, 21:08
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They weren't the first mp3 players
They weren't the first smart phones
They weren't the first touchscreens
They weren't the first tablets
Come on. Comparing pre-iPod MP3 Players and the iPod is a joke. Similarly touch-screen phones. The tech may have existed, but nobody had figured out how to make it usable or build a decent OS and software. That's Apple's genius; not marketing. Frankly, I haven't seen a lot of Apple marketing in the UK until the last few years.

Looking forward to high res display - it's a big jump, even if there's no other big change. Best sites to follow along live is usually engadget or macrumors (the latter will likely post links to other sites covering the event tomorrow).
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Old 06-03-2012, 21:09
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They weren't the first mp3 players
They weren't the first smart phones
They weren't the first touchscreens
They weren't the first tablets

The above is all fact.
It doesn't matter how many people brought out products in a segment first, if nobody was buying them. Making a successful breakout product in a niche segment is far more nuanced than putting together the sum of its components.

Apple are successful because they take existing technology and change it in a common sense way that makes it easier to use for the everyday. There's a billion people out there that want tech but in the past were put off by complexity. All Apple have done is realise how much money there is to be made in making things simple. That in itself is innovation.
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Old 06-03-2012, 21:21
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Looking forward to high res display - it's a big jump, even if there's no other big change.
Is it? really? Are people going to be looking at their ipad 2s next week and start saying "ugh, this is HORRIBLE for watching videos on".

Checking my website stats the most popular resolution visitors use over the last year is 1024x768 (the current ipad resolution), and that's on (presumably) a bigger screen in most cases. Probably around 20% have a significantly higher res screen, and that's mostly for desktops. It won't make most youtube vids look better, for example.

Sure, given the choice between higher res or lower res, higher res is nicer, but (ordinarily) I don't think it would be enough to prompt upgrades. Ordinarily, because we can't rule out the zealots who will buy whatever Apple releases.
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Old 06-03-2012, 21:25
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Is it? really? Are people going to be looking at their ipad 2s next week and start saying "ugh, this is HORRIBLE for watching videos on".

Checking my website stats the most popular resolution visitors use over the last year is 1024x768 (the current ipad resolution), and that's on (presumably) a bigger screen in most cases. Probably around 20% have a significantly higher res screen, and that's mostly for desktops. It won't make most youtube vids look better, for example.

Sure, given the choice between higher res or lower res, higher res is nicer, but (ordinarily) I don't think it would be enough to prompt upgrades. Ordinarily, because we can't rule out the zealots who will buy whatever Apple releases.
I don't think video is the issue at all. I'd say text rendering is the biggest thing. When switching between my iPhone and iPad, the difference is noticeable. I agree, a lot of people will be very happy with the iPad 1/2 resolution, but I think it's a worthwhile upgrade.
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