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Old 09-03-2012, 12:48
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Agree with everything Merity said and also can't wait for the tour/album next year
Thanks cliffy91.

I'm hoping the album might be out this year?
With the concerts following next year?

Wishful hoping on my part probably - but I just cannot wait for this new rock n roll album!
2013 seems so long to wait!
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Old 09-03-2012, 14:12
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Its easy to call a septuagenarian naff, but one wonders how naff the likes of One Direction, Dappy, David Guetta and Olly Murs will be in 2060, if of course they're still around then.

At least Cliff was cool once.......
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Old 09-03-2012, 14:24
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Thanks cliffy91.

I'm hoping the album might be out this year?
With the concerts following next year?

Wishful hoping on my part probably - but I just cannot wait for this new rock n roll album!
2013 seems so long to wait!
That would be great but I believe he is taking a year off this year Although very deserved as he has been at it non-stop since 2008 and the 50th celebrations,the Shadows reunion world tour in 2009-2010,Bold as brass 2010 and the wonderful soulicious last year.....we've been spoilt the last 4 years
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Old 09-03-2012, 16:01
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We have indeed been spoilt!
But one can never get enough Cliffy!

Its easy to call a septuagenarian naff, but one wonders how naff the likes of One Direction, Dappy, David Guetta and Olly Murs will be in 2060, if of course they're still around then.

At least Cliff was cool once.......
So true Keicar.

If one is going to compare one should do it against the Cliff of the 50's and 60s - he was ultimately "cool" then and a far far bigger star than so many of todays current pop stars.
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Old 09-03-2012, 16:33
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Funnily enough (not counting his two Number One Xmas singles in the late 80s and early 90s - which are classics) Cliffs last big 'pop' hit was back in 1979, called "We Don't Talk Anymore". It was his biggest hit and its not hard to see why. But then he must have decided not to make catchy pop tunes anymore, I reckon. Went down the god-bothering route.

http://www.justtophits.co.uk/every-u...e-of-1979.html
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Old 09-03-2012, 16:36
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Miseltoe And Wine: Best Cliff Xmas song ever. Logs on the fire and all.
http://www.justtophits.co.uk/top-sel...the-1980s.html
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Old 09-03-2012, 17:10
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Funnily enough (not counting his two Number One Xmas singles in the late 80s and early 90s - which are classics) Cliffs last big 'pop' hit was back in 1979, called "We Don't Talk Anymore". It was his biggest hit and its not hard to see why. But then he must have decided not to make catchy pop tunes anymore, I reckon. Went down the god-bothering route.
He took that route long before he stopped having hits, the late 60's I believe.

Carrie (1980), Wired for Sound (1981) and Just Don't Have the Heart (1989) were all top 5 'pop' hits post 1979. Cliff's biggest problem is that he doesn't get air play.

Can't recall the song he had out last year (a duet) but it was pretty good as I recall, but even Radio 2 only played it for about a week.

A shame that 2006's Xmas single stalled at No.2 as I would like him to have that one further No.1 single, a feat that will never be beaten, unfortunately its most likely to be posthumous.
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Old 09-03-2012, 18:53
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Cliff should have a gold medal

What a fantastic achievement to have been in the music business for so long How many of todays 'singers' will last as long as he has? He has my upmost respect

Radio1 are so far up their own behind's to not recognise the sheer genius of this man who is able to fill arenas and sell albums by the bucketload. They're the one's that are not 'cool'.by refusing to play any of his releases. Who do they thing they are? They wouldn't recognise talent if it hit them in the face I can't stand them

One of my all-time favourite songs is Miss you Nights

Keep going Cliff
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Old 09-03-2012, 20:01
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Funnily enough (not counting his two Number One Xmas singles in the late 80s and early 90s - which are classics) Cliffs last big 'pop' hit was back in 1979, called "We Don't Talk Anymore". It was his biggest hit and its not hard to see why. But then he must have decided not to make catchy pop tunes anymore, I reckon. Went down the god-bothering route.

http://www.justtophits.co.uk/every-u...e-of-1979.html
To be fair bar his xmas songs he has only really released 3/4 'god bothering' songs since 1979 and has had some great pop tunes, not as good as We Don't Talk Anymore but still good good songs

His gospel album small faces in the early 70's is actually one of his best albums very very good songs on it
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:06
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Funnily enough (not counting his two Number One Xmas singles in the late 80s and early 90s - which are classics) Cliffs last big 'pop' hit was back in 1979, called "We Don't Talk Anymore". It was his biggest hit and its not hard to see why. But then he must have decided not to make catchy pop tunes anymore, I reckon. Went down the god-bothering route.

http://www.justtophits.co.uk/every-u...e-of-1979.html
If being a Christian is thought of as 'naff', then that says rather more about the narrowminded attitude of tptb at Radio One who think its cool to ban him don't you think? .
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:08
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Radio1 are so far up their own behind's to not recognise the sheer genius of this man who is able to fill arenas and sell albums by the bucketload. They're the one's that are not 'cool'.by refusing to play any of his releases. Who do they thing they are? They wouldn't recognise talent if it hit them in the face I can't stand them
Radio 1 haven't played any Cliff Richard songs in decades. They don't play Madonna these days either, so I don't actually see your point.
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Old 10-03-2012, 14:55
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Radio 1 haven't played any Cliff Richard songs in decades. They don't play Madonna these days either, so I don't actually see your point.
Radio 1 is about playing music for young people I think,so I can understand why these older artists aren't played on the station (although Scott Mills did play congratulations week or so ago I was told)
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Old 10-03-2012, 19:03
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Will never forgive him for that atrocious Milennium Prayer.
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Old 10-03-2012, 21:38
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my sister was a huge Cliff fan. At her funeral they played his song "miss you nights". can't listen to that song know without thinking of her and getting all weepy.
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Old 10-03-2012, 22:17
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I'm watching him on I'm A Pop Star. He needs some advice on his make up - what's the deal with the eyebrows?
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:35
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Will never forgive him for that atrocious Milennium Prayer.
I doubt the childrens charity who gained over one million pounds from the record would agree.

Personally it's one of my favourites of Cliffs.

He, as a true Christian, could sing it with sincerity and meaning... and it was perfect for the millennium.

In concert it is always fabulous - anthemic and meaningful.
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Old 12-03-2012, 14:07
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Will never forgive him for that atrocious Milennium Prayer.
Don't get me started on that dirge. It really was naff.
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Old 12-03-2012, 15:32
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Milennium Prayer first song I ever brought,I was 8
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Old 12-03-2012, 17:02
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I'm watching him on I'm A Pop Star. He needs some advice on his make up - what's the deal with the eyebrows?
What's the deal with the cosmetic surgery?
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Old 12-03-2012, 17:07
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"Move It" is by far the best British rock'n'roll record of the fifties, all the others are pale imitations of the American originals.

However, it was the fifties and many believed this new music known as rock'n'roll, which only appealed to the teenagers, was just a passing fad, and certainly not something you could have a lifetime career in, so Cliff moved to more lightweight pop and immediately attracted a much wider cross-generational audience. It was a winning formula, so he stuck with it for the rest of his extremely long and very successful career. I guess he doesn't mind being considered naff if being naff means you have no.1 singles in five consecutive decades (which could have been six had "Millenium Prayer" stayed at the top a few weeks longer).

It wasn't until the Beatles came along and changed all the rules of the game that it became apparent that you could have a lifetime career in rock'n'roll, by which time Cliff had forgotten how to rock.
well, i don;t know about that.

he didn't get a number one, but I think Billy Fury had a few better songs than Move It.

And Adam Faith, as well.
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Old 12-03-2012, 18:32
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well, i don;t know about that.

he didn't get a number one, but I think Billy Fury had a few better songs than Move It.

And Adam Faith, as well.
I think you're confusing pure rock'n'roll with late-fifties/early sixties rock'n'roll-inspired teen pop. Adam Faith's records I would class as teen pop, Billy Fury initially recorded (by British standards of the day) some very good self-penned rockabilly songs, but then he too moved on to teen pop.

As far as pure rock 'n' roll is concerned I still maintain that the only British records of the fifties that come even remotely close to the American classics by the likes of Elvis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Eddie Cochran etc. etc. etc. are "Move It" by Cliff Richard and the not very well known "Brand New Cadillac" by Vince Taylor (and if you include the year 1960, "Shakin' All Over" by Johnny Kidd and the Pirates).

You're right in saying that "Move It" was not a No. 1 single, but that's why I previously stated that he quickly moved onto more lightweight pop to appeal to a much wider audience, and once he did he had No. 1 singles by the bucketload.
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Old 12-03-2012, 21:20
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I think you're confusing pure rock'n'roll with late-fifties/early sixties rock'n'roll-inspired teen pop. Adam Faith's records I would class as teen pop, Billy Fury initially recorded (by British standards of the day) some very good self-penned rockabilly songs, but then he too moved on to teen pop.

As far as pure rock 'n' roll is concerned I still maintain that the only British records of the fifties that come even remotely close to the American classics by the likes of Elvis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Eddie Cochran etc. etc. etc. are "Move It" by Cliff Richard and the not very well known "Brand New Cadillac" by Vince Taylor (and if you include the year 1960, "Shakin' All Over" by Johnny Kidd and the Pirates).

You're right in saying that "Move It" was not a No. 1 single, but that's why I previously stated that he quickly moved onto more lightweight pop to appeal to a much wider audience, and once he did he had No. 1 singles by the bucketload.
I didn't mean Move It didn't get to No1.

I meant Billy Fury never had a No 1.
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:07
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I didn't mean Move It didn't get to No1.

I meant Billy Fury never had a No 1.
Sorry, misread your post, and now I've re-read the post it's obvious what you mean.

No, Billy Fury didn't get to No. 1, which is a great pity, because he made some very good pop (as opposed to rock'n'roll) singles in the early sixties.
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:46
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Billy Fury is fantastic aswell
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