Originally Posted by Scratchy7929:
“Chic were part of Disco culture, Disco evolved from Funk.Chic influenced Hip-hop even which evolved from Disco .That's why I grouped them together.Not that relevent on how Disco influenced the broader Punk movement though, which I have been curious about for years, since Punk was so anti Disco to start with (even more than fans of Prog & Hard rock IMO).”
chic did evolve from disco, true, along with other artists though brought in a new kind of funk. chic, earth wind and fire, etc played funk did they not, wasnt funk also found in early 80's post punk sounds like 'club tropicana', wasnt jazz funk huge in 80-83?
Originally Posted by
Scratchy7929:
“The Punk movement included the most polarised & tribal fans I have ever known in music 'to begin with'.It was almost a fascist campaign to hate on any other genre.What was the year 'zero' nonsense all about otherwise.Punks openly dissed their so called proto-punk bands to start with.It's quite funny really 
in retrospect.”
true, but as the movement evolved tribal barriers were broken down. whilst post punk fashions were still tribal they was an acceptance of others views.
by 1980 you had mods, punks, rockers, rockabillies, skins, all mixing with no trouble.... pre punk youd never get glamrock kids mixing with prog rockers or 'smooth' sould guys (which were the main genres in the few years pre 77)
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“Think you are a bit confused about being corporate.Isn't pop / chart music all about being corporate (the singles chart anyway).Why would a punk fan worry about chart music when they are so anti-corporate minded.That's exactly the reason why the first wave of Punk collapsed.It was a victim of it's own commercial success & co-oped into Corporate record label culture - Punks (fans, artists) couldn't deal with that.”
true...but indie was formed to be anti corporate, punk ethics of 'doing it yourself' produced many great indie labels that facilitated a diverse range of music to be made available to us... ok corporations eventually swallowed up the indie lables and variety, creativity, suffered.
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“You cannot get more D.I.Y. than present Prog musicians these days as far as a self-producing is concerned.If you are such a D.I.Y. lover you should also love present day Prog if you follow that logic.”
i dont like prog, its never appealled to me at all.. if there are diy prog acts today then good for them...i applaud the principle if not the material.
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“Sorry - can't agree - disco did.
Punk was hugely influential - but not in the way disco was ... not least in the use of tehcnology.”
eh?... thats interesting, ive never considered that angle before and i guess theres a point in that. but whether disco or punk had the greatest influence on pop is open to interpretation.
i dont think disco
per se was responsible for the rise of new technology/electro music.
