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Old 04-03-2012, 19:26
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How could they sound like everyone else?
they had their own sound generated by xenomania, most people are aware of that and that was key to their success.
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Old 04-03-2012, 20:14
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I dont get the argument.

Spice Girls are the biggest selling girl group ever...You cant compare stats for GA to them. Thats just funny.
agreed i think some people are smoking something funny to say GA are better than the spice girls etc

cheryl tweedy had to marry a footballer to make people give a damm about her.

the irish one is a flop.

the rest?????????? nuff said.

GA are uk pop and thats it, the uk market since 2001 has been dreadful and the public follow whatever they see on tv.

comes to something when she has to mime on a talent contest shes the judge on, oh yeah plus autotune overload.

heres miss tweedy during popstars (great voice)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucD8B...eature=related
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Old 04-03-2012, 20:15
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The Spice Girls also had to fight their way to the top in a very male dominated UK music industry.

They were told they couldn't ever go on the front of a magazine because they were girls so wouldn't sell. Ironicly Smash Hits decided to give them a chance, not until after Wannabe had been released however, and the magazine ended up being one of their biggest selling of all time!

The Spice Girls story would make a fantastic movie. Certainly those early years leading to success. Reading some of the things they had to go to just to even start recording an album its amazing they even stayed together.

And as soon as the Spice Girls got control of their own career,they promptly fu$$ed it all up..
Girl power indeed !
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Old 04-03-2012, 20:42
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they had their own sound generated by xenomania, most people are aware of that and that was key to their success.
If their "sound" was generated by Xenomania... how is it "their own" sound? I don't think GA have a sound. Cheesy pop is what it is. It's been done a million times before and will be again.
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Old 04-03-2012, 20:52
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If their "sound" was generated by Xenomania... how is it "their own" sound? I don't think GA have a sound. Cheesy pop is what it is. It's been done a million times before and will be again.
perhaps because their were giving their best material to girls aloud. i was purposely ignoring your posts, as i am well aware you don't like them. that why i was conversing with kieran.
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Old 04-03-2012, 20:52
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I can't believe Eternal have only been mentioned twice. I loved the Always & Forever and Power of a woman albums, They had great songs such as So Good, Oh Baby I, Power of a woman, Just A Step from Heaven, Crazy, Someday, I wanna be the only one etc
I know it's a shame they get overlooked.
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Old 04-03-2012, 20:55
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Unigal07 doesn't like anything relating to Cheryl Cole. Except when she is gushing that Kimberley is a ''real woman''.
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Old 04-03-2012, 20:59
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Unigal07 doesn't like anything relating to Cheryl Cole. Except when she is gushing that Kimberley is a ''real woman''.
like i said, i was prepared to let it go by. everyone is entitled to an opinion after all. however, i do feel that people are looking for some sort of reaction.

you never said if you liked that performance i posted earlier.
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Old 04-03-2012, 21:01
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You CANNOT compare the two. CD sales rapidly declined after 1999 and this makes it impossible to compare.

However, Girls Aloud remained successful for the entire 7 years they were active and their final album sold over 800k and they went on a 32 date sell out tour, which is impressive and no other girlband could do that at the moment (apart from the Spices obviously)

So I would say the Spice Girls are the most successful and best selling of the 90's but Girls Aloud are of the 00's, sorted?
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Old 04-03-2012, 21:02
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perhaps because their were giving their best material to girls aloud. i was purposely ignoring your posts, as i am well aware you don't like them. that why i was conversing with kieran.
Oh that's very nice of you, thanks very much. It was just a question.

like i said, i was prepared to let it go by. everyone is entitled to an opinion after all. however, i do feel that people are looking for some sort of reaction.
Me disliking Girls Aloud has absolutely nothing to do with Cheryl Cole (I saw a quoted post). She doesn't help the case, but when you compare them to Sugababes, as I've said, they just seem so generic and well, typical girl group. How does me having that opinion equate to "looking for a reaction?" I do notice though that the Cheryl superfans on here target me in almost every thread, regardless of the topic.

But hey, continue ignoring me. I'll add you to my ignore list if you'd prefer, if you don't like me trying to join in in discussions?
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Old 04-03-2012, 21:10
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Old 04-03-2012, 21:10
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You CANNOT compare the two. CD sales rapidly declined after 1999 and this makes it impossible to compare.

However, Girls Aloud remained successful for the entire 7 years they were active and their final album sold over 800k and they went on a 32 date sell out tour, which is impressive and no other girlband could do that at the moment (apart from the Spices obviously)

So I would say the Spice Girls are the most successful and best selling of the 90's but Girls Aloud are of the 00's, sorted?
if only it was that simple. i still cant really decide from a music prospective. not too mention the sugababes also having some truly fantastic songs.
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Old 04-03-2012, 21:13
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Well said. I personally couldn't stand Biology. It's just cheesy and horrible. Agreed on the "copying" thing with Cheryl accusing All Saints and Charlotte Church - Girls Aloud were (are) so predictable and as I said before, generic, that they just sounded like everyone else. It's not as if Girls Aloud were some sort of ground-breaking, iconic girl group
Who? Examples.
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Old 04-03-2012, 22:11
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Read my frigging post. I'd rather people not even post on my thread than insult me over an opinion I had! I am entitled to an opinion of discussion. I didn't mean or mention album sales at all - I meant the public opinion, and by that - in my opinion, the Sugababes are very underrated as one of Britain's best girlbands. I left this original thread for people to discuss, not insult me. Grow up! I didn't disrespect nor insult either Girls Aloud or Spice Girls, I think they were both absolutely brilliant girl bands. I didn't open this thread for arguments or nastyness.
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Old 04-03-2012, 22:13
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And as soon as the Spice Girls got control of their own career,they promptly fu$$ed it all up..
Girl power indeed !
In some ways I agree but Geri was on the verge of a breakdown purely because of all the success they had so fast. Their lives changed overnight and they just weren't ready for that level of fame. On top of this Mel C and Victoria had their own demons eating away at them. Geri had to make a clean break for her own sanity.

Its sad it ended the way it did but everything happens for a reason in the end.
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Old 04-03-2012, 22:35
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And as soon as the Spice Girls got control of their own career,they promptly fu$$ed it all up..
Girl power indeed !
That's not actually true.

The Spice Girls fled their original management without signing contracts, stole the demo tapes and managed themselves with no team behind them, no guarantee of getting anywhere.. They travelled around and found songwriters for the first album in Geri's Fiat Uno!

By the time they had hired Simon Fuller as their manager they had the majority of their album ready and all but one of the major record labels in the UK vying to sign them... How many other pop acts had the determination and, albeit slightly underhand, business savvy to take control like that without knowing for sure that they would ever go anywhere.

That is Girl Power if you ask me.
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Old 04-03-2012, 23:52
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I love the fact that we have both Sugababes and Girls Aloud, not bothered about sales or which album is better or who had filler blah blah blah, I'm just happy that collectively we have 12 albums of pure pop genius and 40 odd amazing singles
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Old 05-03-2012, 00:07
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Well said. I personally couldn't stand Biology. It's just cheesy and horrible. Agreed on the "copying" thing with Cheryl accusing All Saints and Charlotte Church - Girls Aloud were (are) so predictable and as I said before, generic, that they just sounded like everyone else. It's not as if Girls Aloud were some sort of ground-breaking, iconic girl group

oh but thats what they are

They make the best albums by girl bands, the rest fill them out with filler.
I AM SO PROUD OF GIRLS ALOUD.

Every single was pop perfect and gleemed of perfection
Every album was filler-free and truly brilliant - original.
They are a rarity. There's something special about that group. They are iconic they've had 21 amazing singles and are a success story through and through. I read somewhere that in the 21st century they where top 5 in singles in the UK go them and they do what is so rare these days for girl band sell records, albums and tour tickets. They put on a great show, have great chemistry and appeal to all ages. They fought for the group to get bigger single by single they gave it their all.

It's very telling that bar Cannonball that no Girl group have hit No.1 single or album since The Promise and Out Of Control

I'm not gonna mock Spice, Atomic, Suga, All Saints and Sats because they've all put some stellar songs but GA? they put out filler-free albums that none of the others i name did and is a rarity. I am still laughing at the Westlife association i mean really? Britians dullest predicatable boy band whose put out cover after cover marketed by Louis and Simon as a money making machine...compared to the pop group that saved pop the last ten years flying the flag when it wasn''t so cool putting out records like No Good Advice, Love Machine, Biology, Cant Speak French, Call The Shots and The Promise in the process.

Girls Aloud deserve the success of the spice girls. Anyone who is doubting go on Spotify and listen.
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Old 05-03-2012, 07:57
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Oh dear. A little enthusiastic perhaps? Look, I have no problem with people liking Girls Aloud. They're just not my thing. But to suggest that they actually are an iconic, groundbreaking girl group is delusional, false and just a little bit daft.

Madonna is an icon. Michael Jackson is an icon. Spice Girls are iconic. Britney could be considered iconic considering her rise to fame and the fact she was a bit of a phenomenon herself. Whitney - icon. Are you suggesting Girls Aloud are icons when you look at that short list? Dont make me laugh. Alright girl group, cheesy unoriginal music... Iconic they ain't.
Give me a break. Anyways, back on topic, none of the girl groups around today have a cat in hells chance of being as big as the Spice Girls.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:25
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Read my frigging post. I'd rather people not even post on my thread than insult me over an opinion I had! I am entitled to an opinion of discussion. I didn't mean or mention album sales at all - I meant the public opinion, and by that - in my opinion, the Sugababes are very underrated as one of Britain's best girlbands. I left this original thread for people to discuss, not insult me. Grow up! I didn't disrespect nor insult either Girls Aloud or Spice Girls, I think they were both absolutely brilliant girl bands. I didn't open this thread for arguments or nastyness.
Exactly sales/commercial appeal wise Spice Girls were in a league of their own.
The poster meant musically he thought the Babes were underated and just as good as SG and GA.

I agree Sugababes in all it's forms were better vocally than GA and SG. But for a pop group sometimes it's not all about that. It's also about the look, personality, songs and performance.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:05
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The Spice Girls were a pop cultural phenomenon. It would be hard for any girl group coming after them to make that impact.

The Sugarbabes 1.0 and 2.0 were more involved with the writing than most other groups right from the start. So, there is a more authentic, less manufactured sound to the Sugarbabes, which I like. Without Mutya and Keisha though, they are not the same group any more.

The real test will be who's songs will still be played in 10 years time? Will it be ''Wannabe'' , '2 into 1', 'Round, Round', 'Push the Button' ,'About you now', 'The Promise', 'Sound of the Underground'?
Because longevity is the real measure of success.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:27
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the Spice Girls were a GLOBAL phemonenon. they broke records around the world. they sold 75million+ records.

they truly took over the world in 1996-1998 with music, movies, merchandise, endorsements, tours. they became cultural icons as a band and individuals.

whether you think All Saints, Girls Aloud, Sugababes etc are better, that is personal taste. But to even try compare success is madness
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:51
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Although I was not keen on them, the Spice Girls had massive Global Hits, & even
No.1 & No.3 Albums in the USA. (Although 'Wannabe' was their only No.1 Single
in most Countries, where they had Hits).

Girls Aloud had about 20 UK Top 10 Singles, (twice as many as the Spice Girls),
but, they were only really big in the UK & Ireland. The same for Sugababes.

None of them were as big in the USA as The Supremes, who had 12 USA No.1
Hits, but, who were not so consistently big outside the USA.

Global Hits:,

Spice Girls

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_Girls_discography

Girls Aloud

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_Aloud_discography

Sugababes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugababes_discography
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Old 05-03-2012, 13:20
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There are a lot of numbers here particularly for The Spice Girls but how many of their songs or GA or Sugarbabes will still be played in 10 years time?
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Old 05-03-2012, 15:36
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I can't believe Eternal have only been mentioned twice. I loved the Always & Forever and Power of a woman albums, They had great songs such as So Good, Oh Baby I, Power of a woman, Just A Step from Heaven, Crazy, Someday, I wanna be the only one etc
I know, I absolutely adore Eternal. It's such a shame their contribution is ignored. I would squeal like a little b*tch if they ever reformed.

I know it's a shame they get overlooked.
They've always been slightly overlooked, yet they were one (if not the best) R&B girl group we ever produced here in the UK.
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