[maurice45]

Originally Posted by chocolatecake

haha thanks for that.

But its more this for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-W6bW_ISMk

Lol - started laughing the moment I opened the link and saw the title

[chocolatecake]

Originally Posted by maurice45

Lol - started laughing the moment I opened the link and saw the title

was that at Barbara Windsor's acting lol!? or Dot's amazing hair style?!

[maurice45]

Originally Posted by chocolatecake

was that at Barbara Windsor's acting lol!? or Dot's amazing hair style?!

Everything Dot looking surprisingly different, Peggy's shouting, Pat and Frank standing there unsure of what to do...Roy, Barry, Robbie etc. having a drink at the Vic...

[chocolatecake]

Originally Posted by maurice45

Everything Dot looking surprisingly different, Peggy's shouting, Pat and Frank standing there unsure of what to do...Roy, Barry, Robbie etc. having a drink at the Vic...

I just love that Pat's earring falls out during the slap, yet a few seconds later its back on!! wish i had amazingly magnetic earrings that are attracted back to your ear.. would mean I would certainly have less earrings with just one from where the other one has fallen out and i didn't know lol.

[maurice45]

Originally Posted by chocolatecake

I just love that Pat's earring falls out during the slap, yet a few seconds later its back on!! wish i had amazingly magnetic earrings that are attracted back to your ear.. would mean I would certainly have less earrings with just one from where the other one has fallen out and i didn't know lol.

Pat can control metal

[chocolatecake]

Originally Posted by maurice45

Pat can control metal

always a good superhuman power to have...

[maurice45]

Originally Posted by chocolatecake

always a good superhuman power to have...

So Peggy's power would be to slap and shout

What about Frank and Roy?

[mandead88]

Those were the days - classic EastEnders. They'll never be able to replace Frank.

[maurice45]

Originally Posted by mandead88

Those were the days - classic EastEnders. They'll never be able to replace Frank.

They're trying with Max, but it's just not the same

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by AngelicPrincess

Not that split the Lorraine from the early 90s was very similar to Shirley. She could not be bothered with her kids either. This Lorraine is played more devious and actually notices she has a daughter.

Really? Haha didn't know that . In that case, I think we should rename Shirley to Shirraine .

[AngelicPrincess]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Really? Haha didn't know that . We should rename Shirley to Shirraine .

As a bit of a saddo who has watched since the beginning and has lot of the episodes on some type of format. I was rewatching the orginal Lorraine Salter not long ago and some her behaviour was so Shirley it was scary. They should have brought her in as Lorraine who after leaving Mandy the way she did married Kevin and had those kids etc. The characters were very very similiar. Only Lorraine was slightly more likeable than Shirley. Being related to the Wicks/Brannings would be better later on especially with Mandy getting pregnant by Ricky. As we can see Shirley is very isolated away from Phil and its not a good thing. Much better if she had other ties.

[SULLA]

She looks, sounds and acts like Shirley Carter.

[maurice45]

Originally Posted by SULLA

She looks, sounds and acts like Shirley Carter.

Would Shirley Carter by any other name still be so horrible? The answer is yes.

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by AngelicPrincess

As a bit of a saddo who has watched since the beginning and has lot of the episodes on some type of format. I was rewatching the orginal Lorraine Salter not long ago and some her behaviour was so Shirley it was scary. They should have brought her in as Lorraine who after leaving Mandy the way she did married Kevin and had those kids etc. The characters were very very similiar. Only Lorraine was slightly more likeable than Shirley. Being related to the Wicks/Brannings would be better later on especially with Mandy getting pregnant by Ricky. As we can see Shirley is very isolated away from Phil and its not a good thing. Much better if she had other ties.

Ah, I see. Interesting.

And I agree. It would've been better if they merged Shirley and Lorraine into one character. She would certainly have more ties in the Square that's for sure and as a result she would have more meaningful interactions with other characters. I think we can all agree that Shirley is lost without Philth and his family to be honest. There isn't any reason for Shirley to stay after finding out about Ben killing Heather. Right now, she's nothing more than a faux matriarchal Mitchell who got booted out and left to fend for herself .

Thanks, AngelicPrincess .

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by maurice45

Would Shirley Carter by any other name still be so horrible? The answer is yes.

Even if her name was Ghandi Carter, she'd still be 100% vile .

[maurice45]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Even if her name was Ghandi Carter, she'd still be 100% vile .

Haha, exactly

[chocolatecake]

Originally Posted by maurice45

They're trying with Max, but it's just not the same

I think they were trying with that Bobby Davro chap.. it really DIDN'T work..

[Poison_Ivan]

Are their any other old EE episodes of Lorraine? Also does anyone know why she wasnt in the show longer? When Mandy joined etc?

[monalisa62003]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Ah, I see. Interesting.

And I agree. It would've been better if they merged Shirley and Lorraine into one character. She would certainly have more ties in the Square that's for sure and as a result she would have more meaningful interactions with other characters. I think we can all agree that Shirley is lost without Philth and his family to be honest. There isn't any reason for Shirley to stay after finding out about Ben killing Heather. Right now, she's nothing more than a faux matriarchal Mitchell who got booted out and left to fend for herself .

Thanks, AngelicPrincess .

its not her fault if they dont give her the screentime. she isnt in any episodes after this week till next friday and even thats to do with phil. maybe if she was actually in the episodes then she would get the material. when ronnie left roxy had barely anything but they gave her screentime and stories and now she is good why not the same for shirley

she could easily take over dot/heathers job in the laundrette and have loads of interactions there and i want to see her coping on her own cos thats what she was so scared off .what was the point of her begging heather to choose her over andrew if we dont even get to see her on her own its ridiculous

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by monalisa62003

its not her fault if they dont give her the screentime. she isnt in any episodes after this week till next friday and even thats to do with phil. maybe if she was actually in the episodes then she would get the material. when ronnie left roxy had barely anything but they gave her screentime and stories and now she is good why not the same for shirley

she could easily take over dot/heathers job in the laundrette and have loads of interactions there and i want to see her coping on her own cos thats what she was so scared off .what was the point of her begging heather to choose her over andrew if we dont even get to see her on her own its ridiculous

Indeed. The writers are failing Shirley. Maybe they could bring in a few of her family members and bring back Zsa Zsa.

[chocolatecake]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Indeed. The writers are failing Shirley. Maybe they could bring in a few of her family members and bring back Zsa Zsa.

I really hope so.
I actually hope they bring back her daughter who has a child of her own. So we see Shirley trying to be the best mother and grandmother whilst exploring their relationship. I also wouldn't mind them bringing in her sister.
i think the writers found it easy to pair her up with Phil, and having watched old eps of her from 08/09 they need to make her into that sort of woman again not the doormat for the Mitchells!
I wouldn't mind seeing her in a domestic abuse story line, or paired off with either Max or Andrew but I feel that we've already lost too much of her character and she needs to be alone for a while..it would do her the world of good, and make it less easy for the writers!

[Poison_Ivan]

I think we've gone of topic a bit! I think Lorraine could've been an interesting character given half the chance.

[friendlyguy2]

Linda Henry would have been better in for example tonight's episode as Lorraine Salter.

The Vic actually looked like a proper pub in those days nowadays it's too lit up so obviously a studio.

[Poison_Ivan]

Originally Posted by friendlyguy2

Linda Henry would have been better in for example tonight's episode as Lorraine Salter.

The Vic actually looked like a proper pub in those days nowadays it's too lit up so obviously a studio.

I agree it just looks like a studio your right.
I think Victoria Alcock is doing ok but yes Linda Henry would've played it better. I would love to see old EE episodes with Lorraine. Shame Linda didnt play her longer all those years ago and have some screen time with Mandy.

[monalisa62003]

Originally Posted by friendlyguy2

Linda Henry would have been better in for example tonight's episode as Lorraine Salter.

The Vic actually looked like a proper pub in those days nowadays it's too lit up so obviously a studio.

Yeah but i think

Spoiler

they are killing lorraine off