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The John James & Josie Appreciation Thread (Part 222)
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jaydens_nana
19-03-2012
quote....notebook of love nothing was ever perfect ,but everything was always real............
lerdie
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Hello Lilly Yes John has done some really cruel things towards Josie. However communication was never cut completely immediately after the split, the email link has always been there - he quoted from Josies email just before Xmas. I don't think things are as black & white as John would like us to believe, I suspect he also has contacted Josie. However when your ex has got engaged (ie in a serious relationship) this cuts off any communication you may have felt free to use beforehand if you see what I mean. Of course Josie was right to move on, of course and for that I'm not saying she was wrong, it's her life, she's happy. I'm just saying from Johns perspective he would now feel unable to contact Josie if he felt he wanted to. With the pre Xmas tweets and the tweets regarding MS on the back of no information regarding evidence, I feel that it is most certainly John's place to make contact and not the other way round now. Sorry I didn't make this clear however it's their lives to live the way they choose, not ours ”

Maybe he has tried contact but didn't succeed Wendy xx
JJJ lover
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by lerdie:
“Maybe he has tried contact but didn't succeed Wendy xx”

Ha ha - that took me a while to work out

:
lerdie
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by JJJ lover:
“Ha ha - that took me a while to work out

:”

What's that saying ....... If you don't succeed then try again xx
JJJ lover
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by lerdie:
“What's that saying ....... If you don't succeed then try again xx”

And again and again

Which ties in with the song I posted before

And the love kickstarts again
muddyminded
19-03-2012
There's a weirdly optimistic mood on the thread today - considering the reality of the situation lol
k182
19-03-2012
http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/10-illegal-baby-names.html


JJJ lover
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by muddyminded:
“There's a weirdly optimistic mood on the thread today - considering the reality of the situation lol ”

I'd imagine that's cos we all lost half a pound at the slimming class this week
jackyo55
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by JJJ lover:
“I'd imagine that's cos we all lost half a pound at the slimming class this week ”

i lost no half stone on what ive just scoffed
muddyminded
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by JJJ lover:
“I'd imagine that's cos we all lost half a pound at the slimming class this week ”

You do realise if you lose any more weight you won't be eligible to be a Josie fan?
JJJ lover
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by muddyminded:
“You do realise if you lose any more weight you won't be eligible to be a Josie fan? ”

It's a bit of a distressing time - on the one hand I want to get healthy - what to do? What to do??

It would be good to put it back on though wouldn't it.

Stuffing my face with ANYthing I wanted to.

Annnnd - lying around like a sloth

#teamgoodtimes
tiger89
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Hello Lilly Yes John has done some really cruel things towards Josie. However communication was never cut completely immediately after the split, the email link has always been there - he quoted from Josies email just before Xmas. I don't think things are as black & white as John would like us to believe, I suspect he also has contacted Josie. However when your ex has got engaged (ie in a serious relationship) this cuts off any communication you may have felt free to use beforehand if you see what I mean. Of course Josie was right to move on, of course and for that I'm not saying she was wrong, it's her life, she's happy. I'm just saying from Johns perspective he would now feel unable to contact Josie if he felt he wanted to. With the pre Xmas tweets and the tweets regarding MS on the back of no information regarding evidence, I feel that it is most certainly John's place to make contact and not the other way round now. Sorry I didn't make this clear however it's their lives to live the way they choose, not ours ”

That's a good point you make I guess he could have blocked his email address if he didn't want her to message him anymore. Perhaps he wanted her to tell him he was right and she was wrong but she will never do that. I get now what you mean, he cannot contact her because she's engaged but I'm not sure he ever would have. I love these discussions!
lms30
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Hello Lilly Yes John has done some really cruel things towards Josie. However communication was never cut completely immediately after the split, the email link has always been there - he quoted from Josies email just before Xmas. I don't think things are as black & white as John would like us to believe, I suspect he also has contacted Josie. However when your ex has got engaged (ie in a serious relationship) this cuts off any communication you may have felt free to use beforehand if you see what I mean. Of course Josie was right to move on, of course and for that I'm not saying she was wrong, it's her life, she's happy. I'm just saying from Johns perspective he would now feel unable to contact Josie if he felt he wanted to. With the pre Xmas tweets and the tweets regarding MS on the back of no information regarding evidence, I feel that it is most certainly John's place to make contact and not the other way round now. Sorry I didn't make this clear however it's their lives to live the way they choose, not ours ”

I don't know why but I've always felt John was holding all the cards. He had left, he made the announcement via twitter, he then blocked Josie on twitter, then posted the you tubes, then the girl friend story.

I know Josie did mags but, to begin with, she didn't really slag him off and, if I'm honest, I don't really think she has to this day. I know she has said things but nothing really that we didn't already know. Yes, she probably shouldn't say anything but, most people when they break up with someone will go on and on about the ex, given the opportunity. How many times have you sat and listened to a friend slag off their ex and then heard them tell someone else the story and so on, and they might even tell a slightly different version - and they prob are not telling lies, just embellishing the story for effect and maybe getting carried away because they're hurt, angry etc. Also, the reaction from the listener can make a difference to the actual story, you know "how awful, what a b*****d, makes you wonder if he ever really loved you" or "I'm so sorry for you both, what you had was really lovely and it's such a shame that it's ended this way, you were both so in love. Do you really think it's over". Do you know what I mean, you would answer differently to those 2 scenarios and I suspect mags would be more likely to use the former method of discussing an ex in the hope of getting the story, the scandal, the slagging off.

I do think John gave Josie no hope of a reconciliation and she then had no choice but to try and move on. What was she supposed to do, wait for ever.

And so she met someone else and quickly let everyone know there was a new man in her life and how wonderful he was. Like a few of us, I believe a lot of the info was put out there for John's benefit - whether that was to say "I don't need you, I've moved on" or "please, come and get me before it's too late, I'm here" who knows, but I think it was more likely the latter. As we know, he didn't come and he put out those tweets before Christmas and the next thing we know, she's engaged

I have always felt that Josie would welcome John back, and I still think she would even though her circumstances have changed. I agree with Wendy that he will not get in touch as long as Josie is engaged/involved seriously with another man as she is now off limits in his eyes.

Sorry for going on but sometimes I think it helps me to spout off a bit. All this builds up in my head and I find it helps to write it all down, stupid I know. I could go on forever about the 2 of them and often contradict myself or find myself changing my mind about something when I read someone else's take on it. One thing I won't change my mind on though is that they truly were in love and, imo, should still be together. It's such a shame that they don't agree .
jaydens_nana
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by tiger89:
“That's a good point you make I guess he could have blocked his email address if he didn't want her to message him anymore. Perhaps he wanted her to tell him he was right and she was wrong but she will never do that. I get now what you mean, he cannot contact her because she's engaged but I'm not sure he ever would have. I love these discussions! ”

josie never blocked hers either which leads me to believe theres still a chance
Wendilums
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by lerdie:
“Maybe he has tried contact but didn't succeed Wendy xx”

Pmsl - who knows lerdie
muddyminded
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by lms30:
“I don't know why but I've always felt John was holding all the cards. He had left, he made the announcement via twitter, he then blocked Josie on twitter, then posted the you tubes, then the girl friend story.

I know Josie did mags but, to begin with, she didn't really slag him off and, if I'm honest, I don't really think she has to this day. I know she has said things but nothing really that we didn't already know. Yes, she probably shouldn't say anything but, most people when they break up with someone will go on and on about the ex, given the opportunity. How many times have you sat and listened to a friend slag off their ex and then heard them tell someone else the story and so on, and they might even tell a slightly different version - and they prob are not telling lies, just embellishing the story for effect and maybe getting carried away because they're hurt, angry etc. Also, the reaction from the listener can make a difference to the actual story, you know "how awful, what a b*****d, makes you wonder if he ever really loved you" or "I'm so sorry for you both, what you had was really lovely and it's such a shame that it's ended this way, you were both so in love. Do you really think it's over". Do you know what I mean, you would answer differently to those 2 scenarios and I suspect mags would be more likely to use the former method of discussing an ex in the hope of getting the story, the scandal, the slagging off.

I do think John gave Josie no hope of a reconciliation and she then had no choice but to try and move on. What was she supposed to do, wait for ever.

And so she met someone else and quickly let everyone know there was a new man in her life and how wonderful he was. Like a few of us, I believe a lot of the info was put out there for John's benefit - whether that was to say "I don't need you, I've moved on" or "please, come and get me before it's too late, I'm here" who knows, but I think it was more likely the latter. As we know, he didn't come and he put out those tweets before Christmas and the next thing we know, she's engaged

I have always felt that Josie would welcome John back, and I still think she would even though her circumstances have changed. I agree with Wendy that he will not get in touch as long as Josie is engaged/involved seriously with another man as she is now off limits in his eyes.

Sorry for going on but sometimes I think it helps me to spout off a bit. All this builds up in my head and I find it helps to write it all down, stupid I know. I could go on forever about the 2 of them and often contradict myself or find myself changing my mind about something when I read someone else's take on it. One thing I won't change my mind on though is that they truly were in love and, imo, should still be together. It's such a shame that they don't agree .”

Poor Lukey, he's a porn in a game of emotional chicken!
Wendilums
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by jaydens_nana:
“josie never blocked hers either which leads me to believe theres still a chance”

No she didn't to my knowledge. However when you block someone, it does actually wipe away the person who is blocked follow of you. i.e., Maureen, if you were to ever block me on twitter (hope you don't xxx) then your name would immediately become unfollowed in my list of follows therefore you would receive my tweets on your timeline but be unable to dm me - do you see what I mean?
muddyminded
19-03-2012
Urm guys...sailing dangerously close to the wind on this one!
JJJ lover
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“No she didn't to my knowledge. However when you block someone, it does actually wipe away the person who is blocked follow of you. i.e., Maureen, if you were to ever block me on twitter (hope you don't xxx) then your name would immediately become unfollowed in my list of follows therefore you would receive my tweets on your timeline but be unable to dm me - do you see what I mean? ”

Not sure but thought if someone blocked someone else - they wouldn't see that persons tweets on their timeline.
Wendilums
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by JJJ lover:
“Not sure but thought if someone blocked someone else - they wouldn't see that persons tweets on their timeline.”

I meant if someone unblocks (refollows) someone, they can read that persons timeline but until the unblocked person REFOLLOWS they can't dm them. The blocker wipes away the blockee's follow of them - do you now get it?
Wendilums
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by muddyminded:
“Urm guys...sailing dangerously close to the wind on this one!”

Changing the subject to parking Muddy. That pic, it's also about width judgement, width of car and width of space, & manoeuvering the vehicle centrally
suebloore
19-03-2012
god i love this thread, im proud to be here
muddyminded
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“Changing the subject to parking Muddy. That pic, it's also about width judgement, width of car and width of space, & manoeuvering the vehicle centrally ”

That photo was after I had straightened up, it was hilarious how it looked before, I'm just hopeless at judging the angle of my car from inside....think I will always be a dappy driver but at least I have a licence now
Wendilums
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by muddyminded:
“That photo was after I had straightened up, it was hilarious how it looked before, I'm just hopeless at judging the angle of my car from inside....think I will always be a dappy driver but at least I have a licence now ”

Best get practising Muddy, remember the saying, 'practice makes perfect' - never a truer word spoken
lms30
19-03-2012
Originally Posted by muddyminded:
“Poor Lukey, he's a porn in a game of emotional chicken! ”

I have actually always thought Josie and Luke were a couple but agree with many people on here that there seemed to be a lot of things that didn't add up and so I did wonder how real it was, at least on Josie's part - by this I mean I didn't think it was a fake relationship, but just someone to pass the time with. Now that they are engaged, I would hope that neither of them would go that far, deliberately knowing that it was a game. However, that doesn't mean I think they will get married or stay together. From Josie's point of view, I think Lukey is the classic rebound and I think this even more strongly since they became engaged. I am sure Josie thinks she loves Luke but, sadly, I don't see it lasting. And I still think if John asked her, she would go to him (well, he might need to twist her arm a bit).
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