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Lets not forget taylor only has high numbers for tours because all them 12 year old girls need a parent or guardian to accompany them to thoes "stadiums".
Still waiting for GL to admit she LIED and when she hammered home the point that Asia and S America are where "all the big US stars" want to go... |
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As if Taylor Swift has just been compared to a rock act because she has a live band.
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I was as shocked as anyone when i seen the topic headline as you would expect a mainstream name to top the money list, but it all become clear when you look at the list which show the figures are skewed due to the country aspect. The giveaway is Kenny Cheseny (who?) is 3rd on the list on 29 million. Remove the takings of the niche country market in the southern US then you get a better view of mainstream success. My bro lives in Texas and he attends these type of shows (they are big in the southern parts of the US...country artist Garth Brooks has made a fortune). I don't know Taylor Swift much either as i would only be aware of the more familiar global mainstream names such as Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Adele, Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney Spears etc (not a fan of this kind of music i should add).
Country has its niche market, which as anyone can see from the list is very profitable. As a fan of Led Zeppelin, i remember reading that lead singer Robert Plant done a duet with someone i'd never heard of (alison kraus) and she had more grammys than any woman ever. These country folks slip under the radar, receive loads of country Grammys (when Adele won her six Grammys i dont recall seeing any grammys in the niche country category being shown), and they recieve massive takings from their concerts..swift, chesney, brooks etc. Although they aint most peoples cup of tea, they have their own market and good luck to them. Country is very lucrative and it gets their acts up there with the greats in terms of awards, sales and earnings...and I think that gives some a false sense of superiority for those acts. It's where you have to be objective. All very well having 20 Grammys, selling 293847829 records and making hundreds of millions of dollars in touring...but if people haven't heard of you - let alone your music - in most places outside of the US, you aren't a big international act. The niche country market is VERY lucrative in southern parts of the US, hence less well known folk such as Swift, Cheseny, Kraus, etc earn so much. Its similar with grammy awards in the country category.. they win shed loads and yet no-one has heard of them (alison kraus being the example i came across). Because its not mainstream its less competitive, so unheard of acts make loads of money touring, and win tons of awards in a niche category. If you were asked in a quiz.. name the female with the most grammy awards?.. every mainstream name would be mentioned, no-one would have a clue about some niche country artist. The country category doesnt get televised at the grammys.. only the mainstream awards (Adeles six grammys for example). They should do similar with any money making list.. keep mainstream separate from niche country market. |
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Queen Taylor Swift. Only the most money for the best.
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its all about the music for me too, thats why taylors turgid faux country is nowhere near my ipod and can you try and be less patronising geordielady after all its your arguments that are easy to dismantle and you thats talking nonsense,
as for rock bands here are just a few of the bands i have seen live over the last few years, iron maiden, ac/dc, u2, rem, radiohead, manic street preachers, kings of leon, muse, metallica, pearl jam, depeche mode + blue oyster cult, taylors music does not cut it when compared to any of thos acts are you ever going to answer a few simple questions 1. do you still claim asia/south america is a bigger music market than europe, if so why? 2. on what basis do you claim that taylor swift is a bigger star than adele considering adele is more succesful critically and commercailly in america and around the world than taylor swift? For starters how many tours has she done there |
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Adele isn't a bigger star than Taylor in America :L
For starters how many tours has she done there The mistake i see (on here) is mixing up mainstream with niche country. Thats the problem with lists such as this, it should keep mainstream and country separate. That way we dont get less well known country folk such as Swift and Chesney appearing alongside global mainstream names such as Gaga, Beyonce, Adele, Madonna, U2, Britney, Rihanna. They dont mix them up at the Grammys (the niche country category has its own section).. the mainstream awards are the ones that get shown live. They should also do this when listing most Grammy awards (mainstream grammys, country grammys kept separate).. that way unknown country acts who win shed loads in their niche category (alison kraus), are not lumped with the global mainstream acts. |
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Adele isn't a bigger star than Taylor in America :L
For starters how many tours has she done there more us singles no 1's 3 to taylors 0 more grammys than taylor 8 to her 6 only female artist to win the 4 main grammys (album, record and song of the year as well as best new artist) taylor has only won 1 of these 8 million sales (and counting) of her biggest selling us album compared to 6.5 million of taylor swifts 4th longest run at number 1 by an album in the usa EVER adele is the biggest female music star in america and the world right now, taylor would be lucky to hit the top 10 |
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Spin it as you want the facts are in 2011 taylor was the biggest touring female, you appear to fail to understand a simple calculation gaga failed to sell out 2 shows in 45 taylor only 2 in 89 (or 95 to the end of the year) so to even break even with taylor's sold out ratio gaga would have to play 50 more gigs on the trot totally sold out, thats unlikely.
1. No spinning required, it was all pretty straight forward if you have basic reading comprehension. 2. I'm not denying that Taylor had the highest grossing tour last year of any female act, you can quit arguing that. People are asking you to provide evidence for your more outlandish claims, and I quote: "taylor is the biggest money making artist in the world right now" < No she isn't, this list is earnings from the US market. "on the female music front there will be no one to touch her" < Any evidence beyond Garth Brooks word there? That's just this thread in relation to Taylor being the biggest (touring) female act. We all know I could go on. 3. What are you on about? Gaga's 45 dates in 2011 were part of the 201 total dates for the tour. She didn't need to do any more shows to match Taylor's numbers because her tour is/was already bigger in general. It played to more people and made more money. Even by your standards, I'm sure you'd agree that it's bigger. ($235 million gross + 2.5 million audience vs. $136 million + 1.7 million audience) |
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Adele isn't a bigger star than Taylor in America :L
For starters how many tours has she done there They are of this strange opinion that album sales is what its all about, in fact to the big artists thats not the most important thing by a long way. Taylor is a great example, hardly sells an album here in the UK but can sell out the biggest indoor venues without even trying. I have always said there is no comparison between adele and Taylor, one is a superstar who packs out stadiums, the other is just a studio artist who has taken the torch off Susan Boil. In 5-10 years time taylor will still be entertaining millions all over the world, but the question is where will adele be by then. |
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Amazing.
1. No spinning required, it was all pretty straight forward if you have basic reading comprehension. 2. I'm not denying that Taylor had the highest grossing tour last year of any female act, you can quit arguing that. People are asking you to provide evidence for your more outlandish claims, and I quote: "taylor is the biggest money making artist in the world right now" < No she isn't, this list is earnings from the US market. "on the female music front there will be no one to touch her" < Any evidence beyond Garth Brooks word there? That's just this thread in relation to Taylor being the biggest (touring) female act. We all know I could go on. 3. What are you on about? Gaga's 45 dates in 2011 were part of the 201 total dates for the tour. She didn't need to do any more shows to match Taylor's numbers because her tour is/was already bigger in general. It played to more people and made more money. Even by your standards, I'm sure you'd agree that it's bigger. ($235 million gross + 2.5 million audience vs. $136 million + 1.7 million audience) ![]() ![]() ![]() In less then 10 months of 2011 taylor made well in excess of 100M dollars, sold out 93 of 95 shows, played to near on 1.7M people, filled out 11 stadiums, but if you think gaga or another female can top that in 2011 then I would love to see where you have got the information from otherwise I dont see why there is any more need to be discussing this. And of course gaga last tour was bigger money wise then taylors, she played a lot more concerts and it went on twice as long, if taylor had played the same amount of concerts and toured as long as gaga did just how much would taylor have made. |
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I dont know why you waste you time stating this, some just dont understand what makes an artisit big, how can a one dimensional artsit like adele be the biggest artist in the world, its laughable.
They are of this strange opinion that album sales is what its all about, in fact to the big artists thats not the most important thing by a long way. Taylor is a great example, hardly sells an album here in the UK but can sell out the biggest indoor venues without even trying. I have always said there is no comparison between adele and Taylor, one is a superstar who packs out stadiums, the other is just a studio artist who has taken the torch off Susan Boil. In 5-10 years time taylor will still be entertaining millions all over the world, but the question is where will adele be by then. Good question avoidance there. You might as well be talking to yourself because you sure as hell aren't adequately responding to the questions thrown your way. |
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Suggesting Taylor Swift is a bigger artist than Adele at the moment is the most ludicrous statement I have heard in while.
Total world-wide record sales: Adele: 26+ million (revenue circa £200m) (2 albums) Taylor: 24+ million (revenue circa £170m) (3 albums) It is unfair to compare the artists with regards to touring. Adele has already said she would be unable to perform in arenas due to feelings of anxiety when playing to massive crowds. So that argument is redundant. I'd like to add I like both artists. I prefer Adele as Taylor's lyrics can be quite 'childish' (don't mean this in a bad way) and, at my age, I can't relate to them as much as Adele's. I also like that they can both write their own material (Adele is the sole writer of 6 tracks on '19'). |
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I dont know why you waste you time stating this, some just dont understand what makes an artisit big, how can a one dimensional artsit like adele be the biggest artist in the world, its laughable.
They are of this strange opinion that album sales is what its all about, in fact to the big artists thats not the most important thing by a long way. Taylor is a great example, hardly sells an album here in the UK but can sell out the biggest indoor venues without even trying. I have always said there is no comparison between adele and Taylor, one is a superstar who packs out stadiums, the other is just a studio artist who has taken the torch off Susan Boil. In 5-10 years time taylor will still be entertaining millions all over the world, but the question is where will adele be by then. |
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Suggesting Taylor Swift is a bigger artist than Adele at the moment is the most ludicrous statement I have heard in while.
Total world-wide record sales: Adele: 26+ million (revenue circa £200m) (2 albums) Taylor: 24+ million (revenue circa £170m) (3 albums) It is unfair to compare the artists with regards to touring. Adele has already said she would be unable to perform in arenas due to feelings of anxiety when playing to massive crowds. So that argument is redundant. I'd like to add I like both artists. I prefer Adele as Taylor's lyrics can be quite 'childish' (don't mean this in a bad way) and, at my age, I can't relate to them as much as Adele's. I also like that they can both write their own material (Adele is the sole writer of 6 tracks on '19'). |
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I honestly think Taylor is the best songwriter. If you read the lyrics to all her songs, they make so much sense, and they're so accurate as everybody goes through times like that in their lives. Adele's are okay I guess, but imo Taylor is way ahead in every way compared to Adele.
![]() Did you see my post in the app thread when taylor lost her mic feed last night in melbourne
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And she writes them herself as well so you know everything you are hearing is hers.
![]() Did you see my post in the app thread when taylor lost her mic feed last night in melbourne ![]() |
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Lol at the person who thinks Taylors lyrics are better than Adeles. Are you a 12 year old american schoolgirl? If not then i dont see how you can identify with her music at all. Adele on the other hand has touched people ALL OVER THE WORLD with her story and millions of people identify with her.
Still waiting for you to admit your wrong GL |
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And she writes them herself as well so you know everything you are hearing is hers.
![]() Did you see my post in the app thread when taylor lost her mic feed last night in melbourne ![]() |
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Still waiting to here why Geordielady thinks Adele is a chav compared to Taylor Swift being a redneck and Geordies all being like the people from Geordie Shores.
Or are we not talking about cliches Being a chav is about how you act not where you are from. Also, when will she admit the figures she keep quoting are just for the US not for the whole world Also she is a 40 year old fan (allegedly) of a tween country pop star. When will she admit that the reason Taylor Swifts concert sales are so high is because half the crowd need to be taken by their parents. Come on you are in your forties, surely you must realise you should have outgrown Taylor Swift by now. You must realise that all the famous people who say how wonderful Taylor Swift is are just trying to look cool infront of their kids. Are there any childless celebrities who have said how wonderful Taylor Swift is Don't worry, I expect you to ignore this post like you do all the other sensible posts! |
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i saw it.. taylor lost her mic feed and you bought up adele for no reason...why are you boasting about that
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How is it you can see somthing thats not actually there, go and have another read of that post in the T app thread I made last night, look forward to your apology.
![]() I can assure you it is there, in post #330 of the taylor appreciation thread you said… 'You can just imagine what adele would have done if it had happened to her, shouted a barrage of swear words at the mic, flipped the crowd the bird and stormed off chewing her gum' |
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apology for what..
![]() I can assure you it is there, in post #330 of the taylor appreciation thread you said… 'You can just imagine what adele would have done if it had happened to her, shouted a barrage of swear words at the mic, flipped the crowd the bird and stormed off chewing her gum' But thanks for reminding me about that other post I made, pretty classic if I dont say so myself and of course very true.
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Whats that gotta do with my post last night about taylor and her mic feed, that post was ages ago and as I said the post you were talking about had no adele comments, but good try though.
But thanks for reminding me about that other post I made, pretty classic if I dont say so myself and of course very true.page 14 post 330 http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...032192&page=14 regardless of when it was anyway (yesterday)..you still bought up adele's name in the taylor appreciation thread for no reason. |
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didnt seem like ages ago to me..it was on the last page and it was when you was talking about taylors mic problems after someone had thanked you for posting the link
page 14 post 330 http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...032192&page=14 regardless of when it was anyway (yesterday)..you still bought up adele's name in the taylor appreciation thread for no reason. |
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she is by quite a distance
more us singles no 1's 3 to taylors 0 more grammys than taylor 8 to her 6 only female artist to win the 4 main grammys (album, record and song of the year as well as best new artist) taylor has only won 1 of these 8 million sales (and counting) of her biggest selling us album compared to 6.5 million of taylor swifts 4th longest run at number 1 by an album in the usa EVER adele is the biggest female music star in america and the world right now, taylor would be lucky to hit the top 10 With her record breaking success for a female in the billboard charts, and record equalling success for a female at the Grammys, Adele is commercially and critically #1 in america right now, shes the top dog, the big cheese, numero uno, so all credit to her. She is also destroying records all over the world from Australia to North America to Europe, shes achieving things not seen since The Beatles. Shes remarkable. I would say however that Adele is ONE of the biggest stars in america...as shes alongside other mainstream acts Gaga, Beyonce, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Britney who have had very recent major success themselves. Also similar to Adele, they each have song(s) that are instantly recognisable to the man on the street. Its this mainstream success that makes these six ladies global superstars. |
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and of course very true.