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The Apprentice 2012 ( BBC1)
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rwebster
18-03-2012
I have absolutely no idea why people keep saying the first eleven weeks don't matter, given that they dictate which candidates get the opportunity to pitch their ideas at all. That's huge. That matters. Massively.

If they've survived twelve weeks, they're clearly good businesspeople, regardless of how many boardrooms they've been in. Your record is only as good as the people you worked with, and if everyone else you lost with has been weeded out and yet you still reach the final week unscathed, you're probably categorically not the problem. I mean, Tom didn't reach the final boardroom until week 8, and didn't get called back by a project manager until week 9 - by which point the PM only had three people to choose from in the first place. It's not like he was the class dunce; dipping under the radar the whole time and then pouncing in with a nail file.

The tasks test whether you can buy, they test whether you can sell, they test whether you can lead, they test whether you can take orders, they test whether you can pitch - and at the end of all that, once they've found the four strongest candidates, they test whether you can be inventive. And honestly, the final four last year were probably the strongest final four the show's produced. I don't see how there's a problem..?

It doesn't need a name change, either. The winner still gets to launch a business with an industry veteran; they're still going to be learning from Lord Sugar. I dunno, the reactions all seem a bit kneejerk, to me - just wasn't expecting the knees to still be jerking twelve months later. Am I missing something, here?

Originally Posted by doom&gloom:
“I think the format needs refreshing, I'm not usually a fan of celebrity shows but when the celebs took over on The Apprentice USA it did improve the show and give it the boost it needed so I think the same could happen here.”

Ew - not for me, thanks. The Apprentice USA has always been fairly tacky and garish. UK's always been much classier in its production, candidate selection, set design, tasks... everything; and I'd rather hope it stays that way.

I'm sure people would tune in, but I think its current audience and the audience who'd watch Stacey Solomon for twelve weeks are, by and large, composed of very different people. Could be wrong, though.
SydneyHedgehog
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by rwebster:
“ I mean, Tom didn't reach the final boardroom until week 8, and didn't get called back by a project manager until week 9 - .”

That means nothing. You keep your head down and hide amongst the crowd, its pretty easy to stay out of the firing line.
k0213818
18-03-2012
Ricky is obviously the Baggs of this series, expect Sugar to carry him all the way to the end, also is anyone else getting Lorraine vibes from Jane?

I'm calling Bilyana to be the traditional 'gamebot female that just misses the final' ala Debra, Joanna and Melody, she's probably my favourite on first impressions.
Tourista
19-03-2012
Well, I am so happy this is back on our sets.

Just to see these oh so amazingly talented wonders fall flat on their faces, is ALMOST worth the license fee alone.

Let battle commence............
Jimmy_McNulty
21-03-2012
Meh. Sticking with the investment malarkey, think i will give it a miss this year then.
Oldnjaded
21-03-2012
Originally Posted by Tourista:
“Well, I am so happy this is back on our sets.

Just to see these oh so amazingly talented wonders fall flat on their faces, is ALMOST worth the license fee alone.

Let battle commence............”

It's worth the licence fee to see Harry Hill doing 'The Apprentice in a Nutshell'. Just cracks me up.
CaroUK
21-03-2012
Originally Posted by SydneyHedgehog:
“That means nothing. You keep your head down and hide amongst the crowd, its pretty easy to stay out of the firing line.”

But Tom DIDN'T keep his head down..... he was pretty visible in all the tasks, and LS commented on the fact that he hadn't been on a winning team several times whilst in the boardroom.

The fact that the losing PM didn't bring him in until they almost had no choice in the matter shows that the team leaders didn't think he was responsible for the failures either.

If anyone flew below the radar the last series it was Helen - unlike the other 3 finalists she had a very low profile throughout - we saw lots of Tom, Jim and Susan all the way through - but Helen was a shadow in the background except when she was PM.
copeanddalton
21-03-2012
If you can't wait till tonight, here's a super-secret clip from the new series...

http://youtu.be/0ja3qP1sMbs


Seriously though, very much looking forward to it - although I do hope they solve the prob of the final invention/investment proposal - it was pretty rushed through last time, wasn't really clear how much it affected things and then Lord Sugar didn't take on any of the ideas anyway! Still a hugely watchable show though - Roll on tonight!


Henry
Straker
21-03-2012
IIRC there are only 3 people over 30 amongst this lot and they’re only just over. As the “Apprentice” is now no such thing it seems somewhat ridiculous to hold onto this age embargo when in fact people slightly older with more first-hand experience would not only have better business plans for Sugar to put money into but would also avoid the accusation that the contestants are just blow-hard, arrogant young idiots chosen for their comedy/irritation value. Or is that really all the BBC want......?
QuirkyGirl
21-03-2012
Looking forward to it - always makes me smile.
Oldnjaded
21-03-2012
Originally Posted by Straker:
“IIRC there are only 3 people over 30 amongst this lot and they’re only just over. As the “Apprentice” is now no such thing it seems somewhat ridiculous to hold onto this age embargo when in fact people slightly older with more first-hand experience would not only have better business plans for Sugar to put money into but would also avoid the accusation that the contestants are just blow-hard, arrogant young idiots chosen for their comedy/irritation value. Or is that really all the BBC want......?”



Basically, yes. I think most people now watch it for the prattfalls.
pward1965
21-03-2012
Originally Posted by Straker:
“ Or is that really all the BBC want......?”

The BBC want to make a programme that's entertaining enough to attract decent ratings and that's what The Apprentice is, entertainment.

It's flawed and isn't really accurately named any more. Last season the tasks seemed somewhat irrelevant bearing in mind the winner didn't do particularly well in the tasks.

Despite all this we will give it another go, if only to watch the engineered clashes of egos.
davey_wavey
21-03-2012
I absolutely LOVE this show It's one of my favourite shows of the year! Roll on tonight.
4smiffy
21-03-2012
Let's hope we get one who thinks they're a "brand"
syncage
21-03-2012
Originally Posted by rwebster:
“I have absolutely no idea why people keep saying the first eleven weeks don't matter, given that they dictate which candidates get the opportunity to pitch their ideas at all. That's huge. That matters. Massively.”

Depends if you believe that Sir Alan (or his advisers) really don't see the business proposals until the final....
TennisFreak08
21-03-2012
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“I absolutely LOVE this show It's one of my favourite shows of the year! Roll on tonight.”

Let's hope it's a good one. I'm looking forward to it.
tinkie
21-03-2012
Originally Posted by Straker:
“IIRC there are only 3 people over 30 amongst this lot and they’re only just over. As the “Apprentice” is now no such thing it seems somewhat ridiculous to hold onto this age embargo when in fact people slightly older with more first-hand experience would not only have better business plans for Sugar to put money into but would also avoid the accusation that the contestants are just blow-hard, arrogant young idiots chosen for their comedy/irritation value. Or is that really all the BBC want......?”

The only people I know who watch this programme are all over 30, my children and their children wouldn't even think to watch it, so how about next year have a different generation take part. There are a lot arrogant prats in the more senior of us and I think it would make a refreshing change. I mean zimmer frames at dawn would be interesting. Imagine in the house, fighting over the TV remote control, no need to wake up at the crack of sparrows to slather on endless amounts of make up and forget the need to plug in the GHD's.
tj999
21-03-2012
Yay i can't wait for tonight love this show
Aaron.Bishop
21-03-2012
Looking forward to tonight's new series of The Apprentice. I'm even looking more forward to Harry Hill making fun of.
pward1965
21-03-2012
It will be interesting to see whether the 1st week tradition of firing the losing project manager happens again with this series.
Oldnjaded
21-03-2012
Blimey, took me 10 minutes to find this thread!
Speedloafer
21-03-2012
Im at the top of the food chain, Im a shark.

I'll literally roar my way to the top.

2 classics already
brendans babe
21-03-2012
Evening! lambs to the slaughter

Hard to find this thread!
MikeJW
21-03-2012
Heh. See they've dropped the opening line about SurAlan's "vast business empire", then.
brendans babe
21-03-2012
oh purple eyeshadow lady
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