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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...rles-Sale.html
no more horse racing on bbctv channel4's horse racing coverage is much better won't miss john parrot as a punter |
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Charles Sale has now picked up this story; he's even saying that Clare Balding could defect
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...rles-Sale.html |
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Hardly defect: Clare is freelance hence her stint on More4 for the Crufts coverage.
C4 has the Paralympic rights this year so is clearly happy to increase its share of Sports coverage. |
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Assuming this happens I hope C4 do not bring Balding or indeed any of the other BBC racing crew on board.
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Why is John Parrott on the coverage anyway?
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I see Racing UK are launching on Freeview soon Will this mean ATR has to consider this move to compete? if so will there be a need for Channel 4 racing?
I know Racing UK is subscription and have most of the big races Ch4 show but Ascot, Doncaster, Lingfield etc would be available free on ATR if they went down a freeview route. Do you think ATR will go on freeview? |
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If the rights owner believes that no FTA channel has bid a "reasonable" amount for the rights then they can go to the Secretary of State and ask for permission to be allowed to sell exclusively to a Pay TV company.
It would then be the Secretary of State's call as to what was "reasonable". What it all boils down to is that the Listed events system can only survive by consensus. |
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Why is John Parrott on the coverage anyway?
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I see Racing UK are launching on Freeview soon Will this mean ATR has to consider this move to compete? if so will there be a need for Channel 4 racing?
I know Racing UK is subscription and have most of the big races Ch4 show but Ascot, Doncaster, Lingfield etc would be available free on ATR if they went down a freeview route. Do you think ATR will go on freeview? |
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That is one criticism of the BBC's racing coverage; why did they bring him on board to replace Angus Loughran in 2008? I know he's a racing fan and the Beeb always interviewed him on Grand National day in the past, but that's no grounds for them to make him part of their racing team; it would be like getting Frankie Dettori to be a snooker pundit.
Where did you see this? http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1636470 I see ATR are trying to do Racing coverage from Cheltenham but seems that they have been banned from the course and they are having to broadcast from the car park. |
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It says so on channel 116 I don't have freeview myself saw it on my dad's freeview on Sunday.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1636470 I see ATR are trying to do Racing coverage from Cheltenham but seems that they have been banned from the course and they are having to broadcast from the car park. |
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With the BBC being considered the nation's event broadcaster, I doubt the Grand National would get half the viewers that it has, if it was on Channel 4.
Mind you, if the BBC is willing to give up such events, as well as not covering minority sport generally- oh, and science, the arts, situation comedy, light entertainment, music, longer series of popular returning drama...in anything but a perfunctory way on BBC One- I'm beginning to wonder what the BBC thinks it's for. I've been a long-term supporter of the BBC- frankly, the 70s/early 80s BBC is part of my character- but I now find that those running the corporation are pushing me in to thinking that the BBC may as well not exist. (Of course, news and current affairs- factual- is what it's all about and the BBC has been run by a succession of people from news and current affairs backgrounds, but news and current affairs, though important- as anyone from any background recognises- isn't the 'be all and end all' that they're making it. Everything else is now considered a treat, rather than being considered part of our everyday lives, as it used to be.) |
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Only way you will get Racing UK on freeview is through the connect service (So Freeview HD and internet connection)
Or TVOnics Freeview SD and internet connection: it appeared on the EPG on my DTR-HV250 until I hid the channel |
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Charles Sale has now picked up this story; he's even saying that Clare Balding could defect
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...rles-Sale.html ![]() Typical, also, of him to report a rumour when people have already seen it on the internet.
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It is kind of funny in a way to see no more horse racing on the BBC (Not confirmed but looking likely) but in a way not really a surprise (BBC Only really given 2 hoots about the main events in recent years anyway)
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With the BBC being considered the nation's event broadcaster, I doubt the Grand National would get half the viewers that it has, if it was on Channel 4.
Mind you, if the BBC is willing to give up such events, as well as not covering minority sport generally- oh, and science, the arts, situation comedy, light entertainment, music, longer series of popular returning drama...in anything but a perfunctory way on BBC One |
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I remember the article below appearing in the Daily Record around the time it was announced that the BBC had lost the rights to show Test cricket.
As the BBC says farewell to major sporting events, critics fear for the future of institutions like Grandstand. The days of famous presenters and top-flight events could quickly become be a thing of the past. We may soon all be watching:. 12.05 Football Focus: Garth Crooks gives a kick by kick account of last weekend's Vauxhall Conference. 1.00 Dwarf Tossing: Sid Waddell catches up with events at the Pig and Crown, Cleethorpes. 2.25 Live Billiards: Shuggy `Whirlwind' Windsor and Brian `Breeze' Brown go head to head in Skelmorlie Church Hall. 3.00 Chick Young takes us live to Baden Baden, Germany, for the preliminary qualifying round for this year's Tractor Reversing Championship. 4.00 Half-Time round up. 4.15 Back to Cleethorpes. 4.30 Pool. The Dog and Bone Pub, East London, is the venue. John Spencer reports. 5.00 Final Score. All today's non-league football action. Looks like they weren't far off the mark...
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The 1pm programme is conjuring up unwelcome images.
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A shame, but the BBC has marginalised racing over the last 20 years and lost the rights to Glorious Goodwood, Cheltenham, Newbury, the French meetings and part of the Ascot contract with barely a struggle. OK they did win back the Derby, but that was maybe to fill up a bare weekend on Grandstand. No wonder racecourses are keener to deal with Channel 4, who offer them more money.
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Assuming this happens I hope C4 do not bring Balding or indeed any of the other BBC racing crew on board.
I'd be pleased to see more big race meetings on Channel 4, they do a great job with Cheltenham. |
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You are aware that the BBC has such programming (in bold) on their other channels, notably BBC Four and BBC Two?
As you may remember- possibly not- it is my view (as was that of the BBC for so long) that what is worthwhile should be brought to people; having to go searching for something results in largely 'preaching to the converted' and, anyway, the nature of something on Two or Four, is quite different to what it would be on One, in terms of presentation. It doesn't have to be either/or- which is what it is- and, even then, the number of programmes being made in the various categories stated is far lower than it once was. |
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A shame, but the BBC has marginalised racing over the last 20 years and lost the rights to Glorious Goodwood, Cheltenham, Newbury, the French meetings and part of the Ascot contract with barely a struggle. OK they did win back the Derby, but that was maybe to fill up a bare weekend on Grandstand. No wonder racecourses are keener to deal with Channel 4, who offer them more money.
As things currently stand, C4 only pays for Cheltenham meetings; all other racing coverage by them is paid for by the racing authorities. |
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I remember the article below appearing in the Daily Record around the time it was announced that the BBC had lost the rights to show Test cricket.
As the BBC says farewell to major sporting events, critics fear for the future of institutions like Grandstand. The days of famous presenters and top-flight events could quickly become be a thing of the past. We may soon all be watching:. 12.05 Football Focus: Garth Crooks gives a kick by kick account of last weekend's Vauxhall Conference. 1.00 Dwarf Tossing: Sid Waddell catches up with events at the Pig and Crown, Cleethorpes. 2.25 Live Billiards: Shuggy `Whirlwind' Windsor and Brian `Breeze' Brown go head to head in Skelmorlie Church Hall. 3.00 Chick Young takes us live to Baden Baden, Germany, for the preliminary qualifying round for this year's Tractor Reversing Championship. 4.00 Half-Time round up. 4.15 Back to Cleethorpes. 4.30 Pool. The Dog and Bone Pub, East London, is the venue. John Spencer reports. 5.00 Final Score. All today's non-league football action. Looks like they weren't far off the mark... ![]() |
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Thank you for that high-handed comment. How droll.
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I agree with you on this - it's not that I dislike the BBC racing team, more that I prefer the Channel 4 line-up. I'm perfectly happy with the mainstays of Channel 4's coverage and wouldn't like to see any of them losing out to make room for broadcasters plucked from the BBC.
I'd be pleased to see more big race meetings on Channel 4, they do a great job with Cheltenham. Don't mind the Beeb coverage of the National meeting apart from having John Parrott on and I think it's time to ditch Richard Pitman as well. I wish someone would find a place for Lydia Hislop on terrestial coverage. |
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Sale is notorious for getting things wrong - for weeks he charted the BBC's ''bid'' for the European Champions' League - then it turned out the BBC hadn't bid at all
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