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mattw
22-12-2015
Originally Posted by tony321:
“It's a bit complicated now if F1 is on C4 with the practice sessions on Saturday which will clash with the racing will this affect the new TV deal and will C4 decide to dump horse racing for the more sexy F1 ?

I can't see much sponsorship deals if racing is tucked away on More4 or other such channels.”

It is more complicated, but F1 and racing could work on C4 (with a bit of racing on more 4). Remember C4 will get only ten live qualifying F1 sessions and it will have a degree of ability to choose these - so could prioritise avoiding a clash with any massive racing event. It's likely to get 1 -3 where quali will be much eariler than racing and at least one where it can finish racing and get over to F1 quali on the main channel.

Equally the first races on more 4 and the big races on C4 from say 2.30pm when there's a live Euro grand prix could work pretty well.
Neil_Harris
23-12-2015
2016 RACE CALENDAR - Saturday afternoon possible clashes
3 April: Bahrain, Bahrain - Clashes with the Lincoln
1 May: Sochi, Russia- Clashes with Both Guineas
15 May: Barcelona, Spain - Clashes with the Lockinge
29 May: Monte Carlo, Monaco - No real clash
19 June: Baku, Azerbaijan* - Clashes with Royal Ascot
3 July: Spielberg, Austria - Clashes with the Eclipse
10 July: Silverstone, United Kingdom - Clashes with the Ascot Summer Mile
24 July: Budapest, Hungary - Clashes with the King George
31 July: Hockenheim, Germany - Clashes with Glorious Goodwood
28 August: Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium - No real clash
4 September: Monza, Italy - Clashes with Ascot
18 September: Singapore - No real clash
27 November: Abu Dhabi, UAE - Clashes with the Hennessy

This will be a delicate balancing act.
tony321
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by mattw:
“It is more complicated, but F1 and racing could work on C4 (with a bit of racing on more 4). Remember C4 will get only ten live qualifying F1 sessions and it will have a degree of ability to choose these - so could prioritise avoiding a clash with any massive racing event. It's likely to get 1 -3 where quali will be much eariler than racing and at least one where it can finish racing and get over to F1 quali on the main channel.

Equally the first races on more 4 and the big races on C4 from say 2.30pm when there's a live Euro grand prix could work pretty well.”

I can't see racing's powers being happy if major meetings are shunted off to More4, and I doubt C4 will want to share coverage between F1 and horse racing on the affected afternoons.
ftakeith
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“2016 RACE CALENDAR - Saturday afternoon possible clashes
3 April: Bahrain, Bahrain - Clashes with the Lincoln
1 May: Sochi, Russia- Clashes with Both Guineas
15 May: Barcelona, Spain - Clashes with the Lockinge
29 May: Monte Carlo, Monaco - No real clash
19 June: Baku, Azerbaijan* - Clashes with Royal Ascot
3 July: Spielberg, Austria - Clashes with the Eclipse
10 July: Silverstone, United Kingdom - Clashes with the Ascot Summer Mile
24 July: Budapest, Hungary - Clashes with the King George
31 July: Hockenheim, Germany - Clashes with Glorious Goodwood
28 August: Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium - No real clash
4 September: Monza, Italy - Clashes with Ascot
18 September: Singapore - No real clash
27 November: Abu Dhabi, UAE - Clashes with the Hennessy

This will be a delicate balancing act.”

F1 races are on sundays

there won't be much clashes
redknickers
24-12-2015
Originally Posted by ftakeith:
“F1 races are on sundays

there won't be much clashes”

That is true of the Races themselves but C4 will be showing the qualifiying on Saturday's of their 10 races.
pakokelso93
24-12-2015
Originally Posted by redknickers:
“That is true of the Races themselves but C4 will be showing the qualifiying on Saturday's of their 10 races.”

Qualifying is done and dusted (including post match) by about half 2. Main races are after that. So no real issue. More/E4 can deal with 1 or 2 earlier races. Job done. F1 will always rate higher.
f1fantic1
27-12-2015
How interested are ITV in getting some of the horse racing rights?
Neil_Harris
27-12-2015
Originally Posted by ftakeith:
“F1 races are on sundays

there won't be much clashes”

They are contracted to show qualifying. These finish at half 2 (in Europe) plus time for interviews this takes it to 3pm.
Racing usually starts at 1.30
pakokelso93
27-12-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“They are contracted to show qualifying. These finish at half 2 (in Europe) plus time for interviews this takes it to 3pm.
Racing usually starts at 1.30”

Quali is done at 2pm, coverage is done by half 2. Main horse race of the day is usually the post 3pm. So 1 maybe 2 races on more 4 with a switch at half 2 - easy.
Neil_Harris
27-12-2015
Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Quali is done at 2pm, coverage is done by half 2. Main horse race of the day is usually the post 3pm. So 1 maybe 2 races on more 4 with a switch at half 2 - easy.”

I could be wrong, but I thought qualifying was 2.30 now you have 3 runs?
pakokelso93
27-12-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“I could be wrong, but I thought qualifying was 2.30 now you have 3 runs?”

Quali is 1-2pm, that includes all three seasons. I can assure you.
Neil_Harris
28-12-2015
Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Quali is 1-2pm, that includes all three seasons. I can assure you.”

Thanks for the assurance.

On checking the guides the BBC live programme was 12.15 - 2.30

We will be getting 4 live races on 4 if they don't tweak things.
ringleaderlon
01-01-2016
More bad news for Channel 4 and racing:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...for-boxing-day

Racing might be silly now to give Channel 4 the rights again, itv will do a lot better promotion for the major events.
Mr Newshound
01-01-2016
Racing Post on Twitter - BREAKING: ITV to replace Channel 4 as racing broadcaster next year

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...=last7DaysNews
Gurj73
01-01-2016
Racing post breaks official news - ITV wins contract

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live....724&category=0
Neil_Harris
01-01-2016
So ITV have got it.
Majority to be broadcast on ITV4.

A complete blank page for racing.
What is your team?
Mr Newshound
01-01-2016
Daily Mail report by Charles Sale (including suggestion of a Sky bid): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rac...Channel-4.html
TheSubaru2012
01-01-2016
I suspect there will be even more horse racing programing with the new deal although I wonder if ITV will do a morning magazine program, will better to see that than seeing kids crap..
Greg_Scott
01-01-2016
Originally Posted by TheSubaru2012:
“will better to see that than seeing kids crap..”

The mind boggles
JSemple3
01-01-2016
Horse Racing deal. Is this all the rights? Saturday races so forth? Every meeting?
Tony Yeboah
01-01-2016
I don't think they'll replace Simon Holt or Richard Hoiles as commentators. I'd think they would keep Tanya Stevenson and hopefully bring in someone else to focus on the betting as well, something Channel 4 do not pay enough attention to in their coverage.

I'd like to them to keep Nick Luck but would not be surprised if they replaced him, I don't know if Mark Pougatch would be interested in covering the bigger meetings. Hopefully they won't bring in Jeremy Kyle. Clare Balding is another possibility of course but I don't know if she'd want to work for ITV.

I'd expect them to keep Sir Tony McCoy as a pundit and try to get Frankie Dettori and Hayley Turner in as well. Anyone's guess for the others, but I'd think they would keep Rishi Persad and Gina Bryce and possibly bring Mike Cattermole or Derek Thompson back.
Darren Lethem
01-01-2016
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“So ITV have got it.
Majority to be broadcast on ITV4.

A complete blank page for racing.
What is your team?”

I wonder if John Inverdale will be one of the main presenters. I have a feeling they will go for Rishi Persad too
mr williams
01-01-2016
Can't see anybody replacing Holt and Hoiles, and Cattermole would be a good shout.....but would they dare bring back McCririck?

Love him or hate him, he was the biggest personality on C4 racing for years!
JAS84
01-01-2016
Originally Posted by TheSubaru2012:
“I suspect there will be even more horse racing programing with the new deal although I wonder if ITV will do a morning magazine program, will better to see that than seeing kids crap..”

If they do, it won't replace the kids programmes - they're on in the Breakfast block only. It would probably be at 9.25am, which on tomorrow's schedule (and I can't see it being much different a year from now) is Murder She Wrote followed by Jeremy Kyle.
tony321
01-01-2016
if they keep the same presenters and coverage then there is no point swapping channels, ITV have to start from new, get rid of the all the so called experts and have a fresh approach to the coverage.
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