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Scottish Fitba Thread (Part 19)
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CELT1987
24-04-2012
Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“WTF does Neil Lennon have do to with Rangers punishment?

Caller on Clyde: "at's me finished wi' away games, I'll be going on sunday for the Celtic game though."”

So much for the boycott then!
bhoy07
24-04-2012
So it appears that the RST/A opinion is that if Rangers have done wrong then they should be punished - so what's the problem?

But I don't understand why Neil Lennon is being mentioned?

Jim Spence asking why the Rangers fans protested at the BBC seeing as they broadcasted a documentary which proved to be right.

Then asks what kind of punishment should Rangers face, points deduction ruled out, transfer embargo ruled out, fines ruled out......
gamez-fan
24-04-2012
i think rangers should tell the sfa and sfl to stick it and apply to join the english league
i mean if rangers were to be demoted to the scottish lower leagues then they may as well
attempt to gain entry to the lower english divisions
bhoy07
24-04-2012
Originally Posted by gamez-fan:
“i think rangers should tell the sfa and sfl to stick it and apply to join the english league
i mean if rangers were to be demoted to the scottish lower leagues then they may as well
attempt to gain entry to the lower english divisions”

Why would the English league allow a club join it's league that is in this mess after failing to pay PAYE, VAT and football debts this season?

That's why Rangers have the 12 month player registration ban.

Unless it's proven that the witholding of the PAYE/VAT wasn't used to cover other costs at the club then Rangers don't really have a leg to stand on - this season the club have operated a financial policy that has given it an unfair advantage over the rest of the SPL and clubs it's faced in domestic competition.

If Rapid Vienna go to UEFA/FIFA over then Jelavic money then you can expect a transfer embargo.
t1t3h
24-04-2012
Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“Why would the English league allow a club join it's league that is in this mess after failing to pay PAYE, VAT and football debts this season?

That's why Rangers have the 12 month player registration ban.

Unless it's proven that the witholding of the PAYE/VAT wasn't used to cover other costs at the club then Rangers don't really have a leg to stand on - this season the club have operated a financial policy that has given it an unfair advantage over the rest of the SPL and clubs it's faced in domestic competition.

If Rapid Vienna go to UEFA/FIFA over then Jelavic money then you can expect a transfer embargo.”

Correct.
The_Sleeper
24-04-2012
Gawds truth, the Queens EPL team, made it into the CL final, lets hope Bayen ................. pump them in the final ??
bhoy07
24-04-2012
Heard McCoist on Rangers News - I expect the SFA will be writing a letter to Mr McCoist to ask him to explain his comments.

'This Decision could kill our football club'

'Who are these peepil'

'We want to start fighting back'

'We give the supporters our backing'

'I will stand alongside them'
bhoy07
24-04-2012
Britney, that was genius on the protest.

"ManUtdST have about 150,000 members, Mark how many members do the RST have...?"

"erm, last count about 1500"
Hibs-kid-2007
24-04-2012
With it being essentially an Old Firm game with "nothing" to play for, it could turn out to be a big game as in it could be the last OF game for the forseeable future.

3rd division is where they belong....
bhoy07
24-04-2012
Celtic and Aston Villa will play two preseason games over the next two summers in aid of Stan Petrov, there will also be other matches involving legends of both clubs.
bhoy07
24-04-2012
Originally Posted by Hibs-kid-2007:
“With it being essentially an Old Firm game with "nothing" to play for, it could turn out to be a big game as in it could be the last OF game for the forseeable future.

3rd division is where they belong....”

This season has proved that Celtic will not win the treble every season. It's a chance for SPL sides to step up and challenge.
t1t3h
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“Celtic and Aston Villa will play two preseason games over the next two summers in aid of Stan Petrov, there will also be other matches involving legends of both clubs.”

Good to hear.

About all the news today, what exactly are Rangers fans complaining about? Another forum I post on has been posting links to Rangers fan sites most of the day and they are hilarious. Protests here, boycotts there. They seem to think Rangers shouldn't be punished!

Did anyone see Stuart Cosgrove on C4 news? He said what most non Old Firm fans feel about the situation IMO, unlike Traynor and Dodds on Radio Scotland.
bhoy07
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by t1t3h:
“Good to hear.

About all the news today, what exactly are Rangers fans complaining about? Another forum I post on has been posting links to Rangers fan sites most of the day and they are hilarious. Protests here, boycotts there. They seem to think Rangers shouldn't be punished!”

Not quite true, it appears to me that they agree that if Rangers have done wrong then they should be punished according.

However those punishments must not include:

Fines
Stripping of Titles/Trophies
Point Deductions
Transfer ban
Explusion.
Originally Posted by t1t3h:
“Did anyone see Stuart Cosgrove on C4 news? He said what most non Old Firm fans feel about the situation IMO, unlike Traynor and Dodds on Radio Scotland.”

Fair play to him for speaking out, although I bet he wouldn't be allowed on Sportsound during the week to say that.

SPL 'Sources' saying that Dundee could be promoted if Rangers are liquidated during the close season.
harveybest
25-04-2012
I wasn't familiar with Craig Whyte before this but read A long article online from The Daily Record, why is he not facing some kind of prosecution or prison sentence.
Illegal plots and tax evasion, fraud to name a few of his dodgy deals.
Mark.
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“SPL 'Sources' saying that Dundee could be promoted if Rangers are liquidated during the close season.”

We'll need to finish 2nd first...

Besides, wouldn't Dunfermline kick up a fuss there?
TommyNooka
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by harveybest:
“I wasn't familiar with Craig Whyte before this but read A long article online from The Daily Record, why is he not facing some kind of prosecution or prison sentence.
Illegal plots and tax evasion, fraud to name a few of his dodgy deals.”

The guys been doing it for years so he knows exactly what he's playing at and will make sure he hasn't actually broken any laws, it's his speciality.
harveybest
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by TommyNooka:
“The guys been doing it for years so he knows exactly what he's playing at and will make sure he hasn't actually broken any laws, it's his speciality.”

Why was he allowed to buy a football club then?
Hibs-kid-2007
25-04-2012
If Rangers stay as their current selfs and they are not relegated to div 3, i'd like them to stay in the SPL and get a hiding of some teams every week. I wonder how loyal the fans would stay.
TommyNooka
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by harveybest:
“Why was he allowed to buy a football club then?”

To put them into administration/liquidation?
I couldn't imagine a Knight of the Realm putting his most high profile possession to 'sleep'.
timboy
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by TommyNooka:
“Does anyone actually believe this 'sentence' will be carried out?”

I'm with you on this one mate.

It will be appealed and cut down IMO. The transfer ban down to 1 window and the fines halved.

Originally Posted by bambii:
“What makes is that they ban Whyte for life from managing any SFA team. Then punish the club that he destroyed.”

Whyte 'destroyed' Rangers? There was me thinking it was old Minty Moonbeams that ran EBTs at Rangers that have the HMRC frothing at the gash for the evaded tax?

Had HMRC not been after Rangers for ~£50m then Moonbeams wouldn't have sold to Whyte for £1. Moonbeams is where Rangers fans should be directing their anger at.

And speaking of Minty he has been brought right back into the in mix in court this morning. The Rangers administrators got a motion granted to force Murray Holdings Ltd to pass to the administrators all correspondence between them and Collyer Bristow regarding the share purchase by Shooter. Radar was in court for the motion being granted as well.

Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“Ally McCoist 'Leaning towards' playing in the third division.”

Getting the bares prepared.

Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“Britney, that was genius on the protest.

"ManUtdST have about 150,000 members, Mark how many members do the RST have...?"

"erm, last count about 1500"”



Originally Posted by t1t3h:
“Did anyone see Stuart Cosgrove on C4 news? He said what most non Old Firm fans feel about the situation IMO, unlike Traynor and Dodds on Radio Scotland.”

What are fans of other clubs saying that Celtic fans aren't saying?

Originally Posted by harveybest:
“I wasn't familiar with Craig Whyte before this but read A long article online from The Daily Record, why is he not facing some kind of prosecution or prison sentence.
Illegal plots and tax evasion, fraud to name a few of his dodgy deals.”

If you'd been on the Huddleboard, a haven for journalists looking to print negative stories about Celtic, you'd have known he was a dodger before Shooter signed the contract to take over Rangers.

Thank goodness for the compliant press in Scotland!
Mark.
25-04-2012
Has anyone seen Jim Traynor's latest?

Verge of tears doesn't sum it up.
timboy
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“Has anyone seen Jim Traynor's latest?

Verge of tears doesn't sum it up.”

Got to try and get the Rangers support back onside.
bhoy07
25-04-2012
Murray forced by court to handover details of all communications with Whyte and his team over the takeover.

Also interesting point raised by Phil Mac, if McCoist wants to know who was on the judicial panel, why does he not ask RFC's own Andrew Dickson who attended the hearing.
timboy
25-04-2012
Calum Murray to referee the Glasgow derby on Sunday.
timboy
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by bhoy07:
“Also interesting point raised by Phil Mac, if McCoist wants to know who was on the judicial panel, why does he not ask RFC's own Andrew Dickson who attended the hearing.”

FF have already named one person who they think was on the committee.

I see that everyones favourite pish stained alky and convicted violent criminal yesterday posted the details of Matt McGlone's mail box, on top of naming the children of a BBC staff member a couple months and the HMRC staff member he believed was involved in leaking information to the media before that.
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