[Alfie2008]

Liverpool's decline since the very impressive 2008-09 league season has been staggering.

In just 3 years, Liverpool have gone from title contenders and Champions League regulars to struggling to even stay in the top 8.

[Raven123]

Originally Posted by misawa97

but a temporary manager wont gurantee that. Your advocating getting a temp manager and then getting a new manager in the summer. I'm saying if the decision has already been made to get a new manager and they cant get that person till the summer then just wait till then.

It wont be rafa as comolli is not leaving and comolli has his part to play in the recruitment of players and rafa wont like that. FSG are not getting rid of comolli!!

No, you're twisting my words. I never said get a temp manager in and I certainly didn't say get 2 managers in in the space of 3 months.

I simply said let Rafa take over.

[JaiJai]

It's clear a lot of the players aren't motivated playing for Kenny, I'm beginning to see a slight resemblance to Bobby Robsons tenure at Newcastle years ago - nice bloke, tonnes of respect at the club but a large majority of players who couldn't be arsed.

Personally we should stick with Kenny and give him another season.
This is a time where we need to show support for the team as we still have the FA Cup to play for and finishing as high as possible.

[Raven123]

Kenny is now odds on 3-1 favourite to be the next manager to be sacked.

[vaughan6477]

Originally Posted by Raven123

I think the most annoying this season is the fact that Hodgson is out-managing Kenny.

I must've missed the baggies winning the league cup , into the FA cup semis and above us in the league. Woy is doing what he's good at , being a decent manager at clubs who's biggest hurdle is staying in the PL.

[JMTD]

Originally Posted by vaughan6477

I must've missed the baggies winning the league cup , into the FA cup semis and above us in the league. Woy is doing what he's good at , being a decent manager at clubs who's biggest hurdle is staying in the PL.

I'm honestly tired of Liverpool fans taking shots at Hodgson. We get it, his time at Liverpool wasn't great and it didn't work out, these things happen. He's not a 'decent' manger, he's a bloody good one. He's proved that over the years. His work with Fulham was outstanding and the job he's done so far for WBA has been pretty damn good. Stop sh**ing on the guy for once.

[Dangerman]

Originally Posted by Raven123

Kenny is now odds on 3-1 favourite to be the next manager to be sacked.

No chance whatsoever - he might go 'by mutual consent' but he won't be sacked

[vaughan6477]

Originally Posted by JMTD

I'm honestly tired of Liverpool fans taking shots at Hodgson. We get it, his time at Liverpool wasn't great and it didn't work out, these things happen. He's not a 'decent' manger, he's a bloody good one. He's proved that over the years. His work with Fulham was outstanding and the job he's done so far for WBA has been pretty damn good. Stop sh**ing on the guy for once.

Well I'm pretty tired of other supporters dumping on Dalglish from a great height. If Hodgson is such a great manager , then I'm sure the current top four will come knocking on his door when one of their vacancies comes up. As I look at it , he failed at Inter Milan ,Blackburn and Liverpool.

We'd have ended up in the championship I'd he'd had a full season at Anfield. I'm convinced of that.

[misawa97]

Originally Posted by Dangerman

No chance whatsoever - he might go 'by mutual consent' but he won't be sacked

that is the sack

[Dangerman]

Originally Posted by JMTD

I'm honestly tired of Liverpool fans taking shots at Hodgson. We get it, his time at Liverpool wasn't great and it didn't work out, these things happen. He's not a 'decent' manger, he's a bloody good one. He's proved that over the years. His work with Fulham was outstanding and the job he's done so far for WBA has been pretty damn good. Stop sh**ing on the guy for once.

So why is it OK to have potshots at managers who have won trophies throughout their careers but not at someone who has done a reasonable job at a lower level - remind me please how many trophies has Roy won in the English game ?

Originally Posted by misawa97

that is the sack

Technically it's not although the difference is more of a PR exercise than anything else

[vaughan6477]

Originally Posted by Dangerman

So why is it OK to have potshots at managers who have won trophies throughout their careers but not at someone who has done a reasonable job at a lower level - remind me please how many trophies has Roy won in the English game ?



Technically it's not although the difference is more of a PR exercise than anything else

It's because Woy is a fully paid up member of Fergies butt lickers cartel of PL managers. Who can forget him saying before the match against them , how much he was looking forward to catching up with his old mate. He didn't get us from day one and appeared out of his depth accordingly.

[vaughan6477]

For any comparing Woys record to Kenny. Seeing as Hodgson had 5 months of giving us performances and losses like today at home , then surely KD deserves the same amount of time to drag us to those depths!!!

[JMTD]

Originally Posted by Dangerman

So why is it OK to have potshots at managers who have won trophies throughout their careers but not at someone who has done a reasonable job at a lower level - remind me please how many trophies has Roy won in the English game ?



Technically it's not although the difference is more of a PR exercise than anything else

What has potshots at Dalglish got to do with this? Do you see me taking shots at Kenny? No. I'm discussing Hodgson here, because it seems any time somebody says anything negative regarding Kenny, somehow some Liverpool supporters bring up Hodgson and sh** on him.

And seriously, how many trophies has he won in the English game? Hodgson has been with Bristol City, Blackburn, Fulham and WBA (and of course the short time with you), not exactly teams you'd be expecting to win titles. He almost pulled off one of the greatest feats in quite some time when he guided Fulham to the Uefa Cup final too. I think it's safe to say no matter what he does, some Liverpool fans will never give him any credit and continue to act like he's a poor/average manager.

[vaughan6477]

Originally Posted by JMTD

What has potshots at Dalglish got to do with this? Do you see me taking shots at Kenny? No. I'm discussing Hodgson here, because it seems any time somebody says anything negative regarding Kenny, somehow some Liverpool supporters bring up Hodgson and sh** on him.

And seriously, how many trophies has he won in the English game? Hodgson has been with Bristol City, Blackburn, Fulham and WBA (and of course the short time with you), not exactly teams you'd be expecting to win titles. He almost pulled off one of the greatest feats in quite some time when he guided Fulham to the Uefa Cup final too. I think it's safe to say no matter what he does, some Liverpool fans will never give him any credit and continue to act like he's a poor/average manager.

You've convinced me the campaign of HODGSON FOR UTD starts here!!!!!
Think I'll start a Facebook page.

[SlowRap]

Kenny Dalglish said on the 1st of February 2011:
"I think I have said it before, but there is no one anywhere in the world at any stage who is any bigger or any better than this football club."

You did well in your first few months of the job Kenny, but you wasted the transfer funds, disgraced us with Suarez backing before knowing the facts and you're tactically inept. It's time to call it a day.

[SlowRap]

Originally Posted by JMTD

What has potshots at Dalglish got to do with this? Do you see me taking shots at Kenny? No. I'm discussing Hodgson here, because it seems any time somebody says anything negative regarding Kenny, somehow some Liverpool supporters bring up Hodgson and sh** on him.

And seriously, how many trophies has he won in the English game? Hodgson has been with Bristol City, Blackburn, Fulham and WBA (and of course the short time with you), not exactly teams you'd be expecting to win titles. He almost pulled off one of the greatest feats in quite some time when he guided Fulham to the Uefa Cup final too. I think it's safe to say no matter what he does, some Liverpool fans will never give him any credit and continue to act like he's a poor/average manager.

Hodgson is a gentlemen and a great manager, the truth is he didn't settle in quick enough.

[Dangerman]

Originally Posted by JMTD

What has potshots at Dalglish got to do with this? Do you see me taking shots at Kenny? No. I'm discussing Hodgson here, because it seems any time somebody says anything negative regarding Kenny, somehow some Liverpool supporters bring up Hodgson and sh** on him.

I don't see you complaining about others taking potshots at Kenny , that was my point. You have no problem with Kenny being ridiculed but come in to a supporters thread to criticise said supporters for daring to dislike someone who was one of our worst managers ever

And seriously, how many trophies has he won in the English game? Hodgson has been with Bristol City, Blackburn, Fulham and WBA (and of course the short time with you), not exactly teams you'd be expecting to win titles. He almost pulled off one of the greatest feats in quite some time when he guided Fulham to the Uefa Cup final too. I think it's safe to say no matter what he does, some Liverpool fans will never give him any credit and continue to act like he's a poor/average manager.

So Kenny has won more trophies in the last month than Roy has in an entire career.
Roy Hodgson is an average manager who occasionally came good , Kenny is a great manager who has at times struggled - that's the difference. Oh and Kenny won the league with Blackburn so I'm afraid your point kinda falls apart there

Would you consider Hodgson if Fergie decided to retire at the end of the season, I don't think so somehow

[vaughan6477]

Originally Posted by SlowRap

Hodgson is a gentlemen and a great manager, the truth is he didn't settle in quick enough.

Honestly ,why do you consider him great. Is it because that phrase , like "world class" is bandied about easily in these days of media hyperbole. He might be considered great ,when the competition of other English managers is so woeful. Harry Redknapp is seen as the no1 with the mighty record of one trophy in 30 years as a football boss. Oh , I forgot , keeping teams in the PL and over achieving once in Europes secondary competition is worthy of being called great in management nowadays.

I also think you'll find Kenny is a gentleman. You only know him as the gnarling bloke during interviews. We know him as the bloke who stabilised the club after Hillsborough , attending countless victims funerals with his wife and players. Then continuing to support LFC and it's charities when he left as manager.

What kind of bloke they are doesn't come into it. Many think Fergie is a manipulative oppo and official bashing bully within the game. Doesn't mean he isn't a top family man and human being away from the day job though.

This really is the land of hype and story we live in nowadays.

[SlowRap]

Disgraceful post match interview by Kenny for the BBC I'm fuming.

[SlowRap]

Originally Posted by vaughan6477

Honestly ,why do you consider him great. Is it because that phrase , like "world class" is bandied about easily in these days of media hyperbole. He might be considered great ,when the competition of other English managers is so woeful. Harry Redknapp is seen as the no1 with the mighty record of one trophy in 30 years as a football boss. Oh , I forgot , keeping teams in the PL and over achieving once in Europes secondary competition is worthy of being called great in management nowadays.

This really is the land of hype and story we live in nowadays.

Because look at what he's done with Fulham and West Brom, he has kept them safe and brought in quality players on a shoe string budget. The man has immense experience, unfortunately for him we were going through a tough time with the club when he took over and needed results quickly which he unfortunately failed to deliver. Anyway enough about Roy let's concentrate on how we're going to dig ourselves out of the mess!

[vaughan6477]

For the second week running , a referee is failing to combat Stokes thugs.

Crouch has scored a stunner though. I'm wondering why we didn't big bid for him late on back in Jan 2011 instead of Carroll.

[vaughan6477]

Originally Posted by SlowRap

Because look at what he's done with Fulham and West Brom, he has kept them safe and brought in quality players on a shoe string budget. The man has immense experience, unfortunately for him we were going through a tough time with the club when he took over and needed results quickly which he unfortunately failed to deliver. Anyway enough about Roy let's concentrate on how we're going to dig ourselves out of the mess!

Yes but the football he was trying to implement would've got us no further than Kenny has. Would you have trusted him to be any better than Dalglish with the same transfer pot. Only Meireles had the occasional good game out of his signings.When the team was playing well as he was an utter show pony.

[Dangerman]

Originally Posted by SlowRap

Because look at what he's done with Fulham and West Brom, he has kept them safe and brought in quality players on a shoe string budget. The man has immense experience, unfortunately for him we were going through a tough time with the club when he took over and needed results quickly which he unfortunately failed to deliver. Anyway enough about Roy let's concentrate on how we're going to dig ourselves out of the mess!

Now that part I think we can all agree on !!!!!

[toastie15]

Premier League table since 1st January Bottom 3: Liverpool 8pts, QPR 8, Wolves 5.

[kobashi100]

Originally Posted by SlowRap

Disgraceful post match interview by Kenny for the BBC I'm fuming.

what did he say?