I meant if they really want to crack the English market they may have produced more songs in English but yes I suppose the fact that its in German is a great selling novelty also.

Yes Rock music is still alive and well in the U.K, I remember in the mid to late 90s how people were adamant that Rock/Heavy Metal was completely dead, I even remember a Channel 4 programme in 1997 about the supposed death of rock/hard rock music.

And then a few years later the whole Slipknot, Limp Bizkit and Nickleback & The Darkness thing happened which completely exploded and put Rock right back at the top of the charts, it goes through lean years and then it goes through glory years..we're currently in the lean years.

Rock will never die.

..."assistant professor Heather LaMarre, talking to the U.K.’s Daily Mail".

I didn't bother after that sentence.

Haha. That "research" is ridiculous. About as accurate as me interviewing my dad and then concluding that everyone over 70 is a racist.

There is scope for discussion here, though, if you apply some proper common sense to the topic - rock and indie music are very much a white man's game - very few rock acts are black and the vast majority of people I've been with at rock and indie gigs are white (and largely male for rock bands but more balanced between the sexes for most indie bands).

I don't know why there aren't many fans or artists in rock who are black. Perhaps it's a cultural thing. One thing I do know is that fans of rock music are no more racist than any other demographic. Why would they be? There's no logic to it unless you're trying to conclude that they only listen to rock music because there are few black musicians in rock. It's even more retarded to try to conclude that just listening to rock music makes you racist. That just has to be a joke.

But by applying common sense to the topic you could also say that, as 92% of the population gave their ethnic origin as white at the last census the information is available, (2001), it is understandable that audiences for Rock gigs are also, in general, white.

good ol'Slash makes sure of that \m/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpuF8U5x6dQ

I wouldn't say those were 'glory years' of rock music. Firstly, are those even proper rock artists? And secondly, yes, guitar-orientated music did get a small surge in popularity during the mid-00's, but it was never that big. That time period was 'glory years' of RnB.

I don't think the popularity of rock music has changed that much. It's just not played on mainstream radio that much anymore. It's probably a good thing.

No, the glory years of R'n'B were the fifties! Well, Rhythm 'n' Blues, anyway, which afaic is the only type of R'n'B worth listening to, and was also a huge influence on what later became Rock.

I'd say the 60s/70s were the glory years of rock music. Pity I was born in the 80s

Pretty much this.


Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, The Who, The Clash etc.



The list of bands knocking about looks ridiculous... those bands piss on other artists right across the board of all genres.

Considering Rock's popularity, why is the fact it is not played on mainstream radio that much a good thing?

This is not the first thread about the premature death of Rock music. So, ok Rock music is not mainstream any more, neither is Reggae as I remember it and CW has never really been mainstream but it doesn't stop these genres being popular, just not quite as popular as other pop and dance music. Wow!

There is a more interesting question about why there are few 'black' rock groups, few 'white' rappers or few 'hispanic' CW artists. Something to do with cultural differences? Probably, everything to do with cultural differences.

Do you really want to hear your favourite rock songs played on the radio alongside The Saturdays and Justin Bieber? Surely that would be degrading to the genre? It's best for rock artists to seperate themselves from pop music in this day and age.

Generation X has been screwed in so many ways, but at least we had some damn good music to get us through the tough times.

From heavy metal to hip-hop to grunge, we had so much diversity. Even our one hit wonders kicked ass.

I feel sorry for kids today.

They will never be as cool as were

I think good music should be heard irrespective of it's genre, however in the UK that simply isn't the case today.

Rock music in this country is widely regarded as "dead" by a large percentage of mainstream audiences simply because that is what they are told by the lazy mainstream media, you just need to read some of the threads on this forum to see that, but that view will only change when Rock gets the coverage it deserves by the mainstream.

It seems to me to be mainly the rock fans themselves worrying that it's dead.

I personally am not a rock fan, and I don't think it's dead, and I think the person who started this thread is a rock fan, and he seems to be under the impression that it's dead for some reason.

I follow mainstream music and the media's coverage on it a lot, and I can tell you that nobody tells us that rock music is dead. I don't know where you got that from.

There's lots of radio stations that play rock music. They don't play any pop music, so likewise I don't think the pop stations need to play rock music. The people that like rock music will listen to the rock stations, and the people that like pop music will listen to the pop stations. I have Kerrang! on my radio, so I can listen to that if I ever want to hear alternative music once in a while.

ROFL racism in rock music, more like tptb wants to continually wash down what people listen to as anything 'rebellious' goes against the system. It comes and goes in waves, back in the 60/70s there was Black Sabbath rebelling against the pop hype and in the 80/90s there was RATM going against punk and washed down electronica.

Fingers crossed something similar to Black Metal will come along again to make the sheeple 'scared' and curious about that particular genre. But as for rock being racist, unless you are intentionally looking for it NSBM for example, I can give you a million examples in rap that are far worse. N*gger this and N*gger that.

Black people amongst themselves are allowed to call themseleves N*gger but white people are not allowed to call black people N*gger it seems.How racist is that - think that is supposed to be the ironic point amongst black people, not sure really as I'm only a honky

Paul Gambaccini's pronouncement that "Rock is dead" was widely reported throughout the media last year and a lot of people believe that to be true, a Google search will show many, many, examples of media reports on the subject.

You are right, for those with a DAB radio, Internet access or digital TV you can listen to specialist Rock radio stations such as Kerrang and Planet Rock, however the vast majority of radio listening is done via traditional analogue means and if you go through both th AM and FM frequencies you will struggle to find any radio station consistently playing Rock music throughout the day. So for those who don't hear Rock music on a regular basis, along with the other genres widely played on mainstream radio, e.g. Radio 1, Radio 2, and 6 Music, they hare hardly likely to be inclined to search for a radio station playing a genre they may not even be aware exists. How many people progress from Radio 1 to Radio 3 for example?

One of the reasons the singles chart has such a dearth of Rock in it is because the people who are most likely to buy singles simply don't hear it as the radio stations they listen to, e.g. Radio 1, don't play Rock music. The singles chart reflects the music the buyers hear on a daily basis.

I don't wan't go on but I found this.

http://www.nme.com/news/smashing-pumpkins/62598

I personally get Kerrang! on FM. I'm not sure if everyone does though, but I certainly do.

I'm pretty sure everybody knows rock music. There's so many rock songs which are classics, which everybody knows. You hear rock songs in movie soundtracks, and things like that. I'd be very surprised if people don't know what rock music sounds like. Not to mention, most kids live in a house with parents who grew up on rock music.

If Radio 1 started playing a rock song every 10 mintues, I think I'd stop listening to the station to be quite honest.

And rock music might not do well in the singles chart, but it does much better in the album chart.


As a general rule, everything posted on NME's website is absolute nonsense.

But I disagree with what he said anyway. If you look at the charts, a lot of the artists aren't that famous, like the aren't in the media much. In the current top 10 on iTunes alone there are Gotye, Kimbra, Erick Morillo, Sia and DJ Fresh who you don't hear about in the media much.

To sum up, I don't think rock music is dieing at all. I think some people are worrying a bit too much. Are any of the pop songs from 2 years ago remembered? No. Are any of the rock songs from 2 years ago remembered? Yes. Rock is probably the biggest genre around in a way.