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ok I think for me she should have gone another prop
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Matt is a good skater but, imo for some reason he doesn't have the same "wow" factor as Chris Fountain. Technically he's probably the better skater but, there's something missing for me.
I didn't think he was favoured until the week Sebastien went out. When I saw how fast and complicated Seb's routine was, I thought at the time that the routine should have been given to the "better" skater. Better skaters than Seb would have struggled with that routine, which made me think that Matt really can't be all that if they're not prepared to give him something as risky as Seb's. Tonight's routine was another "solid" routine from Matt but, lacked the speed which would be needed for a 10! Even so he was perceived to be a lot better than Jorgie; who stood out tonight because she was the only skater with one prop! |
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Maybe so, but the ribbon is very hard to control in gymnastics never mind on the ice. She had a hard task tonight and it was undermarked.
I think Jorgie was definitely in the top 2 tonight, and thats not being a bias fan. I thought the routine was beautiful, had a speed over the ice, had a grace and elegance in the movements, and told a story. It actually gave me shivers and she controlled the ribbon so well throughout! She had to even control it in lifts, when she was being twirled around in the air! She had a harder job then people on here would give her credit for. |
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I think Matt did brilliantly tonight. It's no good comparing his scores against Chris' or Rays. He's not being marked against them surely? It's no good comparing a skater on this years show against those who have gone before.
BTW! before anyone starts, I'm a Chico fan (never thought I'd say that) and he did well too tonight. Thought Jen was very good with her performance as well
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His performance was not worth a 9.5, it's ludicrous. It's nothing to do with being a Jorgie fan, it's about fairness and there has been none tonight. Chico, Chemmy, Matt and Jen all overmarked, and poor Jorgie grossly undermarked. The show is now a joke. The judges should hang their heads in shame.
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Just because Jorgie wasnt able to fool the judges this week with the "Oh this is soooo hard" routine in the clip before hand, dont take it out on the others. She was boring tonght, did very little with the ribbon and the little she did do she had to keep looking at the ribbon so it did not look natural at all.
Nobodys taking it out on others, some of us are just trying to fathom why Jens "dragged around- the extension" routine got more then Jorgie. |
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That's your opinion....his performance was very good tonite....I do realise there's a lot of Jorgie fans on this forum and a 6.5 will fuel their anger even more....Matt is more versatile and it's different moves from him every week....whether it is a slow or fast routine!!
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Thats in your opinion, there are many of us who think she did very well with what she was given.
Nobodys taking it out on others, some of us are just trying to fathom why Jens "dragged around- the extension" routine got more then Jorgie. |
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I thought Matt was fantastic tonight & deserved his score - for me it s one of the best prop routines ever on the show - up there with Kyran & Mel's.
Why slate Matt for a great performance just because Louie threw out a silly mark for Jorgie. |
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Jorgie wasn't undermarked. Her fans should realise that with all the fancy routines she's had so far, she's barely done any skating. Tonight with only one prop it showed that she is only mediocre.
Won't matter, poor Chemmy will be in the skate off again, the GPB just don't like posh people, despite the fact that she probably works harder than the others and has no showbusiness background. |
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Yes! This is the problem with males, I always compare them to either Chris, Ray, or maybe even Sam, and Matt just (in my opinion) is not the same standard as them, yet hes getting higher marks.
Like for example, that routine tonight wasn't a patch on Chris' "cry me a river" yet it scored higher.. The scores don't really matter per se. Matt deserved to score higher than the others tonight, which he did, and deserves his place on the leaderboard. |
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Jorgie wasn't undermarked. Her fans should realise that with all the fancy routines she's had so far, she's barely done any skating. Tonight with only one prop it showed that she is only mediocre.
Won't matter, poor Chemmy will be in the skate off again, the GPB just don't like posh people, despite the fact that she probably works harder than the others and has no showbusiness background.
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Why do you assume that I am a Jorgie fan? I'm not actually, but I do think she was very unfairly treated tonight. Especially by Louis. Matt's first week routine was excellent but he peaked too early imo and since then Chico and Jorgie have both surpassed him. He doesn't do anything that not been done before and better by other celebs.
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You can't really compare the score to Chris's, though as it was under a different scoring system with a different number of judges.
The scores don't really matter per se. Matt deserved to score higher than the others tonight, which he did, and deserves his place on the leaderboard. |
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Why do you assume that I am a Jorgie fan? I'm not actually, but I do think she was very unfairly treated tonight. Especially by Louis. Matt's first week routine was excellent but he peaked too early imo and since then Chico and Jorgie have both surpassed him. He doesn't do anything that not been done before and better by other celebs.
Jorgie's marks from Robin and Kati were not ungenerous, it's only Louie who gave her a surprisingly low score. |
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In answer to the original question of 'is Matt being unfairly favoured' ... No.
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I think Matt is the best of the bunch, but he is not as good as previous contestants.
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Thought it was a nice touch of Matt to tweet asking people to vote for Jorgie to keep her out of the skate off.
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Thought it was a nice touch of Matt to tweet asking people to vote for Jorgie to keep her out of the skate off.
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I've nothing against him personally and think he's a very good skater actually, but he seems to be getting really high marks for dull routines. Take just now, no way what was the best performace of the night but it had top scores! It's especially appalling when you consider how unfairly marked Jorgie was for a spotless routine tonight.
I'm sure it's because he's in Emmerdale is an ITV employee.
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Thought it was a nice touch of Matt to tweet asking people to vote for Jorgie to keep her out of the skate off.
Really felt that Jen should have gone this week. Who knows, she might actually let go of Dan next week
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Thought it was a nice touch of Matt to tweet asking people to vote for Jorgie to keep her out of the skate off.
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Yes! This is the problem with males, I always compare them to either Chris, Ray, or maybe even Sam, and Matt just (in my opinion) is not the same standard as them, yet hes getting higher marks.
Like for example, that routine tonight wasn't a patch on Chris' "cry me a river" yet it scored higher.. While I do think he skated well tonight, I do think he was messy in parts. To be honest, the judging tonight overall, just seem wrong to me. I felt like I was watching a different show to the judges. |
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In answer to the original question of 'is Matt being unfairly favoured' ... No.
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I think Matt did brilliantly tonight. It's no good comparing his scores against Chris' or Rays. He's not being marked against them surely? It's no good comparing a skater on this years show against those who have gone before.
BTW! before anyone starts, I'm a Chico fan (never thought I'd say that) and he did well too tonight. Thought Jen was very good with her performance as well ![]() |
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