She put little emotion into it because she was concentrating hard on the ribbon.
Jorgie was screwed tonight!
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Originally Posted by ianswaiting:
“I have never twirled a ribbon in my life but I know it isn't as easy as you imply. Didn't the British rhythmic gymnastics team fail to qualify for our own Olympics recently because they couldn't get a ribbon to unfurl at the right time?”
“I have never twirled a ribbon in my life but I know it isn't as easy as you imply. Didn't the British rhythmic gymnastics team fail to qualify for our own Olympics recently because they couldn't get a ribbon to unfurl at the right time?”
I had a friend who was a rhythmic gymnast and I know how hard it was to work the ribbon. She told me often enough
Originally Posted by ianswaiting:
“I have never twirled a ribbon in my life but I know it isn't as easy as you imply. Didn't the British rhythmic gymnastics team fail to qualify for our own Olympics recently because they couldn't get a ribbon to unfurl at the right time?”
“I have never twirled a ribbon in my life but I know it isn't as easy as you imply. Didn't the British rhythmic gymnastics team fail to qualify for our own Olympics recently because they couldn't get a ribbon to unfurl at the right time?”
OH dear this is a lot more different from a gymnast doing roll over, hand stand, and somersaults etc with a ribbon
Really all Jorgie had to do was keep her hand going in circles to keep the momentum going, matt had a the hard bit by catching the ribbin. Also the momentum of skating across the ice caused the ribbon to flow naturally when it was not twirling
Originally Posted by angelofthenight:
“OH dear this is a lot more different from a gymnast doing roll over, hand stand, and somersaults etc with a ribbon
Really all Jorgie had to do was keep her hand going in circles to keep the momentum going, matt had a the hard bit by catching the ribbin. Also the momentum of skating across the ice caused the ribbon to flow naturally when it was not twirling”
“OH dear this is a lot more different from a gymnast doing roll over, hand stand, and somersaults etc with a ribbon
Really all Jorgie had to do was keep her hand going in circles to keep the momentum going, matt had a the hard bit by catching the ribbin. Also the momentum of skating across the ice caused the ribbon to flow naturally when it was not twirling”
In training it looked like you could get a double decker bus between Matt and the distance Jorgie was throwing the ribbon. Tonight she could've turned around, leaned forward and handed him it! The flow of the ribbon was kept going by the speed of the skating and Jorgie 'twirling' her hand...Walking through hoops whilst skating seems a tad more difficult to me.
EDIT..It looks like I've copied your post Angelofthenight lol..
I think her routine was very boring and didnt have much content which isnt Jorgie's fault but i do think louie's score was about right. The one thing i was impressed by tonight was Jorgie agreeing that the perfromance could have been better instead of spitting the dummy like Chris did.
Originally Posted by angelofthenight:
“OH dear this is a lot more different from a gymnast doing roll over, hand stand, and somersaults etc with a ribbon
Really all Jorgie had to do was keep her hand going in circles to keep the momentum going, matt had a the hard bit by catching the ribbin. Also the momentum of skating across the ice caused the ribbon to flow naturally when it was not twirling”
“OH dear this is a lot more different from a gymnast doing roll over, hand stand, and somersaults etc with a ribbon
Really all Jorgie had to do was keep her hand going in circles to keep the momentum going, matt had a the hard bit by catching the ribbin. Also the momentum of skating across the ice caused the ribbon to flow naturally when it was not twirling”
Yes and it takes those gymnasts years to perfect the somersaults etc. Jorgie had a week
Oh, and she was on the ice too.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yes and it takes those gymnasts years to perfect the somersaults etc. Jorgie had a week Oh, and she was on the ice too.”
“Yes and it takes those gymnasts years to perfect the somersaults etc. Jorgie had a week
Oh, and she was on the ice too.”
really did you not read what I posted.
The momentum of skating across the ice caused the ribbon to flow naturally which makes it a lot more easier than having to do it on the spot.
Even a kid could just run down the road with the ribbon hold up and it would flow the same as it did for Jorgie.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yes and it takes those gymnasts years to perfect the somersaults etc. Jorgie had a week Oh, and she was on the ice too.”
“Yes and it takes those gymnasts years to perfect the somersaults etc. Jorgie had a week
Oh, and she was on the ice too.”
Jorgie wasn't doing somersaults ... the momentum of skating makes the ribbon flow .. she twists her hand to make the waves and circular movements but the fact that she's moving anyway because of being on the skates or being spun around provides the momentum for her which is very different to rhythmic gymnasts having to run, jump, somersault and spin under their own steam
Jorgie wasn'tn the worst of the night but on skating skills and the use of the props I don't think she deserved to be above anyone but Jen
Originally Posted by mcgvil:
“I think her routine was very boring and didnt have much content which isnt Jorgie's fault but i do think louie's score was about right. The one thing i was impressed by tonight was Jorgie agreeing that the perfromance could have been better instead of spitting the dummy like Chris did.”
“I think her routine was very boring and didnt have much content which isnt Jorgie's fault but i do think louie's score was about right. The one thing i was impressed by tonight was Jorgie agreeing that the perfromance could have been better instead of spitting the dummy like Chris did.”
Agree with you there. It's all very well people moaning about Louie's criticisms, but who knows... if Jorgie is in the skate-off and takes that on board, it could well save her!
Originally Posted by angelofthenight:
“really did you not read what I posted.
The momentum of skating across the ice caused the ribbon to flow naturally which makes it a lot more easier than having to do it on the spot.”
“really did you not read what I posted.
The momentum of skating across the ice caused the ribbon to flow naturally which makes it a lot more easier than having to do it on the spot.”
I disagree
Does it twirl naturally?
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“Jorgie wasn't doing somersaults ... the momentum of skating makes the ribbon flow .. she twists her hand to make the waves and circular movements but the fact that she's moving anyway because of being on the skates or being spun around provides the momentum for her which is very different to rhythmic gymnasts having to run, jump, somersault and spin under their own steam
Jorgie wasn'tn the worst of the night but on skating skills and the use of the props I don't think she deserved to be above anyone but Jen”
“Jorgie wasn't doing somersaults ... the momentum of skating makes the ribbon flow .. she twists her hand to make the waves and circular movements but the fact that she's moving anyway because of being on the skates or being spun around provides the momentum for her which is very different to rhythmic gymnasts having to run, jump, somersault and spin under their own steam
Jorgie wasn'tn the worst of the night but on skating skills and the use of the props I don't think she deserved to be above anyone but Jen”
So have you used a ribbon whilst ice-skating?
Chemmy was overmarked, she hardly did anything with her props as did Chico. They just carried the props around most of the time.
At the end of the day Jorgie and Matt were judged on the content of their routine over how well they executed and used the moves and props GIVEN to them by Torvil and Dean. Louis marking was a little off but not totally as although a fan of Jorgie and Matt I was a little bored by the routine. However I put the blame for this at Torvil and Dean's door not theirs.
I don't care how many props Jen had she hardly skated and was marked higher. Her moves were more basic than Jorgie's also.
It seems some skaters are favoured over others and this was the case with routines and props this week. From the moment I heard Jorgie had only one prop I knew she'd be crucified for it. Either give them all the same number of props or better yet none at all.
Props week has never been a favourite of mine, the routines just appear clumsy and their focuses are usually on the props and not performance, which is where Jorgie fell down tonight with Louis, she was very gracious about it though and accepted his 'expert' opinion.
I don't care how many props Jen had she hardly skated and was marked higher. Her moves were more basic than Jorgie's also.
It seems some skaters are favoured over others and this was the case with routines and props this week. From the moment I heard Jorgie had only one prop I knew she'd be crucified for it. Either give them all the same number of props or better yet none at all.
Props week has never been a favourite of mine, the routines just appear clumsy and their focuses are usually on the props and not performance, which is where Jorgie fell down tonight with Louis, she was very gracious about it though and accepted his 'expert' opinion.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“So have you used a ribbon whilst ice-skating?
Chemmy was overmarked, she hardly did anything with her props as did Chico. They just carried the props around most of the time.”
“So have you used a ribbon whilst ice-skating?
Chemmy was overmarked, she hardly did anything with her props as did Chico. They just carried the props around most of the time.”
So did Jorgie, apart from the flick of a wrist to twirl it...
Yes she 'lobbed' it, but it was Matt who had to do the important part of catching it.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I disagree Does it twirl naturally?”
“I disagree
Does it twirl naturally?”
Yes if you keep your hand going it a circle motion which is not hard to do. Its like skiping you just got to keep you hand going in a circle. Thats how simple spinning a ribbon is,
Now if she had spun it around hers or matts body or changed hand or put it under her legs etc then I would say it was hard on skates but she didnt.
Tell you what get a light scarf and spin your hand around you will see how simple it is. better still stick it on the end of a chop stick and do it.
Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
“So did Jorgie, apart from the flick of a wrist to twirl it...
Yes she 'lobbed' it, but it was Matt who had to do the important part of catching it.”
“So did Jorgie, apart from the flick of a wrist to twirl it...
Yes she 'lobbed' it, but it was Matt who had to do the important part of catching it.”
Yet the others scored higher than Jorgie? It doesn't make sense and then for Jen to score higher than Jorgie just makes the whole thing a joke.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yet the others scored higher than Jorgie? It doesn't make sense and then for Jen to score higher than Jorgie just makes the whole thing a joke.”
“Yet the others scored higher than Jorgie? It doesn't make sense and then for Jen to score higher than Jorgie just makes the whole thing a joke.”
I do think Jen and Jorgie's scores should've been on a par with eachother on this one. Matthew and Chico 'tho, imho deserved their marks. I missed the start so can't comment on Chemmy.
Jorgie was dull & boring - the others were all much better. You could see in her face she thought she should have had more
Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
“I do think Jen and Jorgie's scores should've been on a par with eachother on this one. Matthew and Chico 'tho, imho deserved their marks. I missed the start so can't comment on Chemmy.”
“I do think Jen and Jorgie's scores should've been on a par with eachother on this one. Matthew and Chico 'tho, imho deserved their marks. I missed the start so can't comment on Chemmy.
”
I agree with Matthew being top but that's about it.
Isn't it funny how, until tonight's show, this forum had quite a few people saying that the show was being set up to give Jorgie the best possible chance of winning - yet now it's being rigged AGAINST her!?
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“Isn't it funny how, until tonight's show, this forum had quite a few people saying that the show was being set up to give Jorgie the best possible chance of winning - yet now it's being rigged AGAINST her!?”
“Isn't it funny how, until tonight's show, this forum had quite a few people saying that the show was being set up to give Jorgie the best possible chance of winning - yet now it's being rigged AGAINST her!?”
Ha ha, shows how wrong this forum can be
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I had a friend who was a rhythmic gymnast and I know how hard it was to work the ribbon. She told me often enough”
“I had a friend who was a rhythmic gymnast and I know how hard it was to work the ribbon. She told me often enough
”
Rhythmic gymnasts do an awful lot more with their ribbon that was done by Jorgie tonight.
THAT WAS RIDICULOUS!!!!!! I'm actually angry at that mark...are you serious?! The performance was incredible!!!
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“So have you used a ribbon whilst ice-skating?
Chemmy was overmarked, she hardly did anything with her props as did Chico. They just carried the props around most of the time.”
“So have you used a ribbon whilst ice-skating?
Chemmy was overmarked, she hardly did anything with her props as did Chico. They just carried the props around most of the time.”
I haven't used a ribbon whilst skating myself but I have all 6 NSA figure skating proficiency badges and the NSA grade 7 free skating badge (out of the 9 available at the time) from when I skated as a child (the grading system has been replaced these days with a differenrt system but it means that I have got skating qualifications so have some idea what I'm talking about
) .............. so I know how much momentum plays in keeping the ribbon going and like a previous poster has said I've played with some sort of version of a ribbon on a stick as a child so know that once you spin it from your wrist it's not that difficult to make the wave or circular movementsWhilst Chemmy and Chico may have just carried their props they actually did a fair bit of technical skating .. Chico did two free jumps, Matt also did a fair bit of technical skating too ......Jorgie did very little technical skating tonight ... and Jen did absolutely nothing (I think Jen should have been below Jorgie on the scoreboard)
Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
“I do think Jen and Jorgie's scores should've been on a par with eachother on this one. Matthew and Chico 'tho, imho deserved their marks. I missed the start so can't comment on Chemmy.”
“I do think Jen and Jorgie's scores should've been on a par with eachother on this one. Matthew and Chico 'tho, imho deserved their marks. I missed the start so can't comment on Chemmy.
”
Chemmy's actual skating was really strong, controlled and precise .. she did a lot of technical stuff and IMO deserved her marks as she also put on a really good performance
She still lacks the grace of the other girls but to me it wasn't needed in this particular routine asi it was more of a fun one
Jen's been bottom half most weeks and so far her support has held up. Chico's and Chemmy's has proved vulnerable and before tonight Jorgie's hasn't been tested. Tonight's skate off will answer a few questions.
ETA Matt has always been one of my favourites but I was unimpressed with his attitude tonight.
ETA Matt has always been one of my favourites but I was unimpressed with his attitude tonight.
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