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Jorgie was screwed tonight!
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footygirl
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by Petite Fleur:
“Fine. that's your opinion and you're entitled to it but your nastiness and urging others to 'get rid' of her goes way beyond mere opinion. It's a hatred campaign. You did the same with Karen Barber and your "We Can't Let Karen Win" thread, urging posters to bombard ITV in an attempt to sitr up trouble for Karen.

Do you really think anyone takes any notice of you?

btw if Jennifer barely skated last night blame T&D. They choreographed the routine. Or are they only to blame when it comes to Jorgie?”

there is no need for you to be so rude
Tiggergirl
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“there is no need for you to be so rude”

Some could argue a lot of your posts have been very rude too especially when its about someone you dislike and you do seem to be one of a few posters here who do go out of their way to start campaigns against the people they dislike.

I agree with the other poster fair enough you don't like someone but you do not go out of your way to start anti voting campaigns against them and trying to manipulate people into your way of thinking or towards your particular favourite.
olivej
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by shefair:
“as Jorgie finished last night both Mr S and I said , now that was lovely

and it was , i dont know why Louie had that reaction to it, because surely he should have been marking what the whole performance was rather than throwing a strop about Jorgie only being given one prop.

I think Jorgie was under marked last night and Matthew again over marked for a competent performance.

Jennifer was also given poor choreography how is being dragged about in a bucket on ice skilful?

Thankfully though both girls are through this week despite the poor choices of T and D

T and D seem to have run out of ideas and need to let others choreograph good ,fair routines for all”

BIB totally agree!!!!! I think its such a shame that the professional skaters arent allowed more input into the choreography

As much as I admire T&D their choreography is wearing a little thin tbh (just my opinion btw)
Cranberryapple
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by Selena:
“The winner of the first series Gaynor Faye was actually in the first ever skate off.

Gaynor did improve a lot but I think that it was more her personality and partnership with Dan that was lovely to watch that won people over than skating ability.”

Thank you. I remember it well now. Just needed a wee kick start lol
Majorkey
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Sorry ut Jennifer is overmarked and overrated in my opinion. She barely skated unaided last night”

Too true. Her skate steps look like she's walking across stones in a river - very hesitant.

Jorgie has shown up and dazzled from the off but is more even-keeled and doesn't do the poor-me routine that Jen and Chico have milked all along. Unfortunately the judges are falling for the 'it was a difficult routine for me' lines every single week from some of the contestants.

The skating steps test will sort them out next week. Jorgie and Matthew will have a big advantage.
Katenutzs
12-03-2012
Think it backfired and showed what a poor performer she really is, until last night I was fooled but it was a real eye opener, she skating was very basic when on her own
Petite Fleur
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by Majorkey:
“Too true. Her skate steps look like she's walking across stones in a river - very hesitant.

Jorgie has shown up and dazzled from the off but is more even-keeled and doesn't do the poor-me routine that Jen and Chico have milked all along. Unfortunately the judges are falling for the 'it was a difficult routine for me' lines every single week from some of the contestants.

The skating steps test will sort them out next week. Jorgie and Matthew will have a big advantage.”

BIB

Jorgie plays the 'little girl, little me' card to perfection. All that hyperventilating when she gets her marks. All the er.....er.....er as she fails to formulate a single sentence. Not all of us are taken in.
Pandy65
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by Majorkey:
“Too true. Her skate steps look like she's walking across stones in a river - very hesitant.

Jorgie has shown up and dazzled from the off but is more even-keeled and doesn't do the poor-me routine that Jen and Chico have milked all along. Unfortunately the judges are falling for the 'it was a difficult routine for me' lines every single week from some of the contestants.

The skating steps test will sort them out next week. Jorgie and Matthew will have a big advantage.”

I havent seen any poor-me routine from Chico at all? In fact the only thing I have seen from him is over-exuberance.
Jen I only saw doing any kind of "poor-me" was after kicking herself in the head.
Veri
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by Petite Fleur:
“BIB

Jorgie plays the 'little girl, little me' card to perfection. All that hyperventilating when she gets her marks. All the er.....er.....er as she fails to formulate a single sentence. Not all of us are taken in.”

And when she does formulate sentences ...?
Veri
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by Katenutzs:
“Think it backfired and showed what a poor performer she really is, until last night I was fooled but it was a real eye opener, she skating was very basic when on her own ”

Not compared to Jennifer's.

And what does the level of skating (which is largely down to the choreographers) have to do with how good a performer she is?

At least Jorgie can do a lot of skating on her own in a routine. She's one of the best skaters of the female celebs who've appeared on the show.
Veri
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by Petite Fleur:
“Fine. that's your opinion and you're entitled to it but your nastiness and urging others to 'get rid' of her goes way beyond mere opinion. It's a hatred campaign. You did the same with Karen Barber and your "We Can't Let Karen Win" thread, urging posters to bombard ITV in an attempt to sitr up trouble for Karen.

Do you really think anyone takes any notice of you?

btw if Jennifer barely skated last night blame T&D. They choreographed the routine. Or are they only to blame when it comes to Jorgie?”

I would blame T&D if Jen had shown much ability to skate on her own. I have regularly blamed T&D when they've given female celebs who can skate too little skating and / or too many lifts.

And I think T&D gave Jen a very poor prop.
JohnCurry
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“Surely not before the watershed?”

I am annoyed that I missed it!
Tejas
12-03-2012
Originally Posted by Majorkey:
“Jorgie has shown up and dazzled from the off but is more even-keeled and doesn't do the poor-me routine that Jen and Chico have milked all along. Unfortunately the judges are falling for the 'it was a difficult routine for me' lines every single week from some of the contestants.”

Funny because Jorgie used that exact trick last night - oh how we must all feel sorry for her for being given such a difficult prop as a toy that a 3 year old could play with! I much prefer Chico and Matthew's determination to get to grips with the challenges they face, I don't think they've used any sympathy ploys.
Majorkey
13-03-2012
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“Funny because Jorgie used that exact trick last night - oh how we must all feel sorry for her for being given such a difficult prop as a toy that a 3 year old could play with! I much prefer Chico and Matthew's determination to get to grips with the challenges they face, I don't think they've used any sympathy ploys.”

Then you must be missing Chico and Jen post-skating interviews in which they beg for votes.
Tiggergirl
13-03-2012
Originally Posted by Majorkey:
“Then you must be missing Chico and Jen post-skating interviews in which they beg for votes.”

I would hardly say they were begging for votes if anything it at least shows that they don't automatically assume that they are safe and through to the next show. I wouldn't say its looking for sympathy and why drag Jennifer into this when the poster was commenting on Matthew and Chico.

The others are equally as bad on twitter etc constantly tweeting for votes in the gap between the show Matt Evers is one of the worst offenders for that as have some of the others in particular Matthews supporters. I ended up unfollowing some because I was fed up of the constant barrage in my timeline on a Sunday night.
Majorkey
13-03-2012
Originally Posted by Tiggergirl:
“I would hardly say they were begging for votes

The others are equally as bad on twitter etc”

"I so want to be back next week...I'm enjoying this so much...I'm come so far...and I can't do it without you!" etc. I'd call that begging.

A very small percentage of the general viewing population use Twitter so criticising anyone for expressing her/her personal views (hint: that's the whole point of Twitter) regardless of the subject is unrealistic and unfair.
frally
13-03-2012
Originally Posted by Majorkey:
“"I so want to be back next week...I'm enjoying this so much...I'm come so far...and I can't do it without you!" etc. I'd call that begging.”

This was Jen's pre-results tweet:
Guys pls pls pls vote to help me get to the semi finals I so need your help tonight more than ever! Xxxxx

Yep. Sounds like begging to me too.

I thought it was fantastic of Matt W to tweet asking people to vote for Jorgie to save her from the skate-off, and then adding "oh and you can vote for me too if ya want".
Tiggergirl
13-03-2012
Originally Posted by Majorkey:
“"I so want to be back next week...I'm enjoying this so much...I'm come so far...and I can't do it without you!" etc. I'd call that begging.

A very small percentage of the general viewing population use Twitter so criticising anyone for expressing her/her personal views (hint: that's the whole point of Twitter) regardless of the subject is unrealistic and unfair.”


I would hardly call the first quote begging more stating a point they want to be back that is stating what they want not please please vote so I can come back. Also Enjoying it come so far statements of fact as well and yes if people don't vote then they can't go through so again stating a point.

You are operating double standards so Matthew is allowed to beg for votes for him and Nina and Jorgie and Matt thats allowed but no one else is allowed to request votes but others do it then its begging and a huge crime. Matthew is obviously going to back Jorgie given their pro partners are partnered with each other and they have all formed a bit of a clique amongst themselves. IIRC Chloe got slated on here for encouraging people to vote for Sam in the final but now its ok for Matthew to encourage people to vote for Jorgie I am aware of the point of twitter since I have it but the pros and celebs use it for the purpose of getting support for the shows so if some are begging then they all are. You can't say its only begging for some but not whoever your favourite is. Matthews supporters are amongst the worst for it with constant twitter barrages pleading people to vote for him. Sean was also very guilty of it too.

You still haven't answered my point as why you dragged Jennifer into it when the poster was talking about Chico and Matthew and them not using any sympathy ploys but it seems you and frally are Jennifer haters so it's any excuse to have a dig

Again why is it ok for every other celeb in DOI history to use the VT to request votes etc but if Jennifer dares to do it suddenly its pathetic and begging.
Cranberryapple
13-03-2012
Originally Posted by Tiggergirl:
“I would hardly call the first quote begging more stating a point they want to be back that is stating what they want not please please vote so I can come back. Also Enjoying it come so far statements of fact as well and yes if people don't vote then they can't go through so again stating a point.

You are operating double standards so Matthew is allowed to beg for votes for him and Nina and Jorgie and Matt thats allowed but no one else is allowed to request votes but others do it then its begging and a huge crime. Matthew is obviously going to back Jorgie given their pro partners are partnered with each other and they have all formed a bit of a clique amongst themselves. IIRC Chloe got slated on here for encouraging people to vote for Sam in the final but now its ok for Matthew to encourage people to vote for Jorgie I am aware of the point of twitter since I have it but the pros and celebs use it for the purpose of getting support for the shows so if some are begging then they all are. You can't say its only begging for some but not whoever your favourite is. Matthews supporters are amongst the worst for it with constant twitter barrages pleading people to vote for him. Sean was also very guilty of it too.

You still haven't answered my point as why you dragged Jennifer into it when the poster was talking about Chico and Matthew and them not using any sympathy ploys but it seems you and frally are Jennifer haters so it's any excuse to have a dig

Again why is it ok for every other celeb in DOI history to use the VT to request votes etc but if Jennifer dares to do it suddenly its pathetic and begging.”

Well said
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