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Old 12-03-2012, 12:38
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One of the depressing things about modern pop music is the use of explicit versions on singles. For example, a new entry at number five is

LOVE ME

By

STOOSHE FT TRAVIE MCCOY

It's about girls finding guys to look after them. The main chorus is

"oh oh oh, turn it up and i'll go
cause i won't need you no more (no!)
your play's fine but i ain't got the time
why don't you hurry up, yeah hurry up, yeah hurry up!
love me"

The explicit version replaces the word "love " with f**k." It makes the song about women wanting to be screwed by guys. It makes it more tacky and sends out a message the girls just want to be f****d. Great message, girls. I'm sure men will really respect you. Not. It's similar to Cee Lo Green's song which replaced Forget You with F**k You. Does it make the song better? Nope.

Lame.

All the great pop songs of the past never resorted to this. Think of your favourite pop songs of the past, did they change the lyrics to feature the f word? Heck, no!
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:47
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I think Fu.ck You is much better for the Ceelo Green song because no one says forget you. I think it is okay tbh
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:48
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Well if you're angry you might say f you rather than forget you but if you were playing that song at a kids birthday party then it has to be the clean version!

Lots of kids listen to pop so it would be a shame if more and more songs feature the f word. Once you're a teenager then fair enough, but for under 10s and it's not so cool for them to hear loads of songs with the f word.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:51
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I dont get the big deal, its just language, language that is deemed unacceptable by society, its just english, does it really matter?
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:52
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Well I haven't any kids but if I did i wouldn't want them to listen to pop songs where the girl singers say f_ck me.

You can't just say language is just language. There's the intent behind the word, why it's being said, what message it's sending out. The f word can be offensive if it's said in the wrong context. If most teenagers say the f word then it's no big deal to hear it in a song but if younger children hear the explicit version of the song then it's not so good.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:53
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Profanity is the language of the ignorant ,if some rapper or R&B star or whatever thinks its clever, then they are more stupid than the music they represent.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:54
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Well if you or they can listen to the clean version of the song then what is the problem?
Have u heard the dedication to my ex explicit version?
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:58
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Well if you or they can listen to the clean version of the song then what is the problem?
Have u heard the dedication to my ex explicit version?
Yes lol the word p**** gets used ALOT! Has anyone heard the birthday cake remix with rihanna and chris brown? Pure filth! and i love it.
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Old 12-03-2012, 13:00
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The explicit version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v17oQKB4st8

F you? No thanks! The Spice Girls never sang songs like this. Girl Power has come to this?
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Old 12-03-2012, 13:03
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Yes lol the word p**** gets used ALOT! Has anyone heard the birthday cake remix with rihanna and chris brown? Pure filth! and i love it.
So do i it is great but not about OP
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Old 12-03-2012, 13:07
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The explicit version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v17oQKB4st8

F you? No thanks! The Spice Girls never sang songs like this. Girl Power has come to this?
But there not the Spice Girls? im sure they want to be different and do their own music they like. Just listen to the clean version
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Old 12-03-2012, 13:12
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Profanity in music is nothing new, it's always been around.
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Old 12-03-2012, 13:14
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Male singers have been singing about wanting to f**k girls for years. Now that girls (e.g. Rihanna, Stooshe..) are singing about it, highlighting that surprisingly they enjoy sex as well, people are clicking their tongue... There's a definite hint of sexism here, expecting women to be subservient, good girls.

If you don't like the song, or your against the mention of sex in ANY SONG, fair enough - but don't bring the fact that they're girls into it because that's completely irrelevant. To be honest I'd say the biggest question is why society is so afraid of sex in the first place?

And btw, the original version of the song, which I heard nearly a year ago, was called F**k Me so they haven't changed it post-success to include that word.
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Old 12-03-2012, 13:17
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The explicit version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v17oQKB4st8

F you? No thanks! The Spice Girls never sang songs like this. Girl Power has come to this?
'I really really really wanna zig-a-zig-ahh'? 'Slam your body down and wind it all around'? Not as explicit I know but..

It's just a bit of fun, they don't take themselves seriously.

But I think it's double standards that male singers/rappers don't really get 'judged' on their lyrical content.
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Old 12-03-2012, 14:05
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..Without sounding too bigoted, Do young Black Females/Males have any respected musicians to look up to any more other than those who sing about sex, the streets, bling, booty, cars, money, cheating? etc etc

I don't think I have come across many prominent Black artists in recent times who had poetic & thought provoking content dealing with politics, real relationships, History etc other than Tracey Chapman.
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Old 12-03-2012, 14:29
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..Without sounding too bigoted, Do young Black Females/Males have any respected musicians to look up to any more other than those who sing about sex, the streets, bling, booty, cars, money, cheating? etc etc

I don't think I have come across many prominent Black artists in recent times who had poetic & thought provoking content dealing with politics, real relationships, History etc other than Tracey Chapman.
Leona Lewis, Emeli Sandé, JLS, Alicia Keys, Alexandra Burke, Toni Braxton, Brandy, John Legend, Mary Mary.....the list goes on and on....I don't know people are dragging race into this at all....:yawn:
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Old 12-03-2012, 17:05
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One of the depressing things about modern pop music is the use of explicit versions on singles. For example, a new entry at number five is

LOVE ME

By

STOOSHE FT TRAVIE MCCOY

It's about girls finding guys to look after them. The main chorus is

"oh oh oh, turn it up and i'll go
cause i won't need you no more (no!)
your play's fine but i ain't got the time
why don't you hurry up, yeah hurry up, yeah hurry up!
love me"

The explicit version replaces the word "love " with f**k." It makes the song about women wanting to be screwed by guys. It makes it more tacky and sends out a message the girls just want to be f****d. Great message, girls. I'm sure men will really respect you. Not. It's similar to Cee Lo Green's song which replaced Forget You with F**k You. Does it make the song better? Nope.

Lame.

All the great pop songs of the past never resorted to this. Think of your favourite pop songs of the past, did they change the lyrics to feature the f word? Heck, no!
fully agree with your sentiments... theres utterly no need to be so downwright crude... why not just hint at it? the beatles for eg sang songs about prostitution, but cleverly hid the story ... not today, kids dont want to think, they just want it 'in yer face'...or thats whats being offered anyway.

Profanity in music is nothing new, it's always been around.
not this crude though... please correct me but aside from some punk records when did the f word or anything meaning sexual intercourse be so explicit?... its just thick, lazy, generation who have no idea how to apply sex to music or image (just look at all those foul plastics, umpa lumpa orange fake tans, falsies, blonde hair, more make up then coco the clown... )
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Old 12-03-2012, 17:13
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Tina Turner -

Private Dancer

WELL THE MEN COME IN THESE PLACES
AND THE MEN ARE ALL THE SAME
YOU DON`T LOOK AT THEIR FACES
AND YOU DON`T ASK THEIR NAMES
YOU DON`T THINK OF THEM AS HUMAN
YOU DON`T THINK OF THEM AT ALL
YOU KEEP YOUR MIND ON THE MONEY
KEEPING YOUR EYES ON THE WALL

[CHORUS]
I`M YOUR PRIVATE DANCER
A DANCER FOR MONEY
I`LL DO WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO
I`M YOUR PRIVATE DANCER
A DANCER FOR MONEY
AND ANY OLD MUSIC WILL DO

I WANT TO MAKE A MILLION DOLLARS
I WANT TO LIVE OUT BY THE SEA
HAVE A HUSBAND AND SOME CHILDREN
YEAH I GUESS I WANT A FAMILY
ALL THE MEN COME IN THESE PLACES
AND THE MEN ARE ALL THE SAME
YOU DON`T LOOK AT THEIR FACES
AND YOU DON`T ASK THEIR NAMES

[CHORUS TWICE]

rather more evocative, I think.
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Old 12-03-2012, 17:14
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Leona Lewis, Emeli Sandé, JLS, Alicia Keys, Alexandra Burke, Toni Braxton, Brandy, John Legend, Mary Mary.....the list goes on and on....I don't know people are dragging race into this at all....:yawn:
I don't know of Sande or Mary Mary

But the others fall COMPLETELY under the umbrella of things I discussed.

I mean JLS?! lol
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Old 12-03-2012, 17:18
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Blah there crap anyways.

Kids should be looking at these people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALHe12x_I0U
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Old 12-03-2012, 17:31
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not this crude though... please correct me but aside from some punk records when did the f word or anything meaning sexual intercourse be so explicit?... its just thick, lazy, generation who have no idea how to apply sex to music or image (just look at all those foul plastics, umpa lumpa orange fake tans, falsies, blonde hair, more make up then coco the clown... )
That's true. ACDC and KISS may have wrote many songs with sexual overtures but they were mostly subtle and never explicit. Great artists can make songs sexual in nature without actually being explicit with it. I miss that.
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Old 12-03-2012, 17:37
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I get depressed with the sh*te lyrics of pop songs full stop.
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Old 12-03-2012, 18:26
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Interestingly though, the explicit versions of both Love Me and Forget You sold VERY little in comparison to the clean versions. Which suggests that they'd've sold almost as well even if they didn't have swear words in their titles anyway.
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:44
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Generation X has been screwed in so many ways, but at least we had some damn good music to get us through the tough times.

From heavy metal to hip-hop to grunge, we had so much diversity. Even our one hit wonders kicked ass.

I feel sorry for kids today.

They will never be as cool as were
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Old 12-03-2012, 23:38
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R'n'B..it's not as good as it used to be.

Nowadays it's more 'Rapping 'n' Bleating' than 'Rhythm 'n' Blues'.
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