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Come On Jen
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JohnCurry
15-03-2012
Although her skating is not very good, in personality, acting (serious or comedy) and sheer likeability she stands out a mile from the others. I would not expect her to make the final but I have enjoyed watching her and I am very glad she entered this year. I think she has done herself a power of good, adding to her already impressive versatility (see her Wikipedia article). I look forward to seeing what she will be doing next.
millysshaw
15-03-2012
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“I love his attitude too ... and I would also like to see his Bolero as it'll probably be in a fetching pair of lilac speedos ”

That would be something to watch, he might be abit nesh though. How about ice skating to one of the songs from The fully monty." You can leave your hat on" comes to mind.
Mynametoday
15-03-2012
Originally Posted by Lorelei Lee:
“Sorry, will ignore people still bitter about being slagged off for their own silliness and get back OT

Quite honestly I've been impressed by Jen's transformation over the past couple of weeks and think it's a shame it came comparatively late. I wouldn't be surprised to see her make the final over Chico, but I am surprised to find out that I don't mind too much about it ”

I'm sure you are a very nice person in real life, and wouldn't dream of being so rude to someones face .
TraceyUK
15-03-2012
Originally Posted by millysshaw:
“That would be something to watch, he might be abit nesh though. How about ice skating to one of the songs from The fully monty." You can leave your hat on" comes to mind.”

Been done series 1 Dan and Gaynor, props week.
millysshaw
17-03-2012
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“Been done series 1 Dan and Gaynor, props week.”

I missed that one. Dan comes from my neck of the woods. I like him.

Jen comes across as being a nice person.But i dont know her personally , I know she is not the best skater out of those left. But when she has got through in other weeks she seems surprised and it looked genuine.

I like Chico and his routines I always enjoy. I would like to see him in the final so I hope he is in the Final.
WickedPlans
17-03-2012
You reasons are all a bit lame.

The winner should be the best - not the nicest or the prettiest or the most improved - just the best!
Their journey is irrelevant, only where they end up.

Jen is the weakest of the remaining skaters but a good performer.
She does not deserve to win.
yellowlabbie
17-03-2012
Originally Posted by WickedPlans:
“You reasons are all a bit lame.

The winner should be the best - not the nicest or the prettiest or the most improved - just the best!
Their journey is irrelevant, only where they end up.

Jen is the weakest of the remaining skaters but a good performer.
She does not deserve to win.”

I agree with all this. Jen should go tomorrow but I won't be surprised if she doesn't.
footygirl
17-03-2012
It is billed tomorrow that there is a skate off- so what is the likelyhood of the judges putting chico through and given that jorgie must have topped the vote last week from jennifer, then matt, chico and chemmy thinking put jennifer bottom and so ensure she ends up in the skate off
Tiggergirl
17-03-2012
Originally Posted by WickedPlans:
“You reasons are all a bit lame.

The winner should be the best - not the nicest or the prettiest or the most improved - just the best!
Their journey is irrelevant, only where they end up.

Jen is the weakest of the remaining skaters but a good performer.
She does not deserve to win.”

Kind of defeats the point in even having a competition then doesn't it if you automatically know who is going to win it. That takes away from the show for me.

I would rather someone wins like Jennifer or Chico that maybe isn't that great to begin with but then improves and progresses that IMO is the point of the show not taking someone who is brilliant to begin with and then there being no real competition which is how the show seems to have been since Ray won.
gazb2
17-03-2012
Originally Posted by Tiggergirl:
“Kind of defeats the point in even having a competition then doesn't it if you automatically know who is going to win it. That takes away from the show for me.

I would rather someone wins like Jennifer or Chico that maybe isn't that great to begin with but then improves and progresses that IMO is the point of the show not taking someone who is brilliant to begin with and then there being no real competition which is how the show seems to have been since Ray won.”

Disagree here. At the end of the day...Jorgie didn't have a massive dance background - Jennifer did. They both haven't skated before (or very little) and Jorgie is miles ahead of Jen in every aspect (in my opinion!) and should absolutely win.
TraceyUK
17-03-2012
Originally Posted by gazb2:
“Disagree here. At the end of the day...Jorgie didn't have a massive dance background - Jennifer did. They both haven't skated before (or very little) and Jorgie is miles ahead of Jen in every aspect (in my opinion!) and should absolutely win.”

SO her scholarship to ballet school wasnt substancial dance training then?? She wouldnt have got that if she hadnt had extensive ballet training.
BUT of course you've overlooked that as a way to have yet another go at Jen.
TLC1098
17-03-2012
Tomorrow night Jen will be exposed in the ultimate skills test and Matt,Jorgie and Chico will shine.
Tiggergirl
17-03-2012
Originally Posted by TLC1098:
“Tomorrow night Jen will be exposed in the ultimate skills test and Matt,Jorgie and Chico will shine.”

Unless your psychic never assume anything until it happens. Look at what happened to Sebastien in the Ultimate Skills test that could happen to any of the three you think will shine and Jennifer could come out on top.

Anything can and does happen in live shows when they are under pressure so I think its silly to come out with stuff like that.

People assumed Jorgie would get perfect 10s last week and she ended up bottom of the leaderboard see my point about not assuming anything
diamond1
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by gazb2:
“Disagree here. At the end of the day...Jorgie didn't have a massive dance background - Jennifer did. They both haven't skated before (or very little) and Jorgie is miles ahead of Jen in every aspect (in my opinion!) and should absolutely win.”

Jorgie trained as a ballet dancer at a private dance school for 3 years then when she left she worked abroad as part of a dance troup .... not sure how that means she doesn't have a massive dance background

Jen may have done more training and more dancing in her career but you can hardly call Jorgie a novice

Matthew's also obviously had some dance experience from his musical theatre work and is a trained gymnast which will be an advantage

Chico seems the rank amateur in regards to dancing .. although he can obviously move and I would think that his time as a stripper has helped that
gazb2
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“Jorgie trained as a ballet dancer at a private dance school for 3 years then when she left she worked abroad as part of a dance troup .... not sure how that means she doesn't have a massive dance background

Jen may have done more training and more dancing in her career but you can hardly call Jorgie a novice

Matthew's also obviously had some dance experience from his musical theatre work and is a trained gymnast which will be an advantage

Chico seems the rank amateur in regards to dancing .. although he can obviously move and I would think that his time as a stripper has helped that ”

I stand corrected...sorry.
gazb2
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“SO her scholarship to ballet school wasnt substancial dance training then?? She wouldnt have got that if she hadnt had extensive ballet training.
BUT of course you've overlooked that as a way to have yet another go at Jen.”

Didn't realize she had the training...ignore my post
frally
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“Jorgie trained as a ballet dancer at a private dance school for 3 years then when she left she worked abroad as part of a dance troup .... not sure how that means she doesn't have a massive dance background

Jen may have done more training and more dancing in her career but you can hardly call Jorgie a novice

Matthew's also obviously had some dance experience from his musical theatre work and is a trained gymnast which will be an advantage

Chico seems the rank amateur in regards to dancing .. although he can obviously move and I would think that his time as a stripper has helped that ”

Which is why I admire Matt W and Jorgie even more because despite their gymnastic/ballet backgrounds, they've worked on their skating and not tried to get through with numerous gymnastic/ballet moves or poses on ice.
gazb2
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by frally:
“Which is why I admire Matt W and Jorgie even more because despite their gymnastic/ballet backgrounds, they've worked on their skating and not tried to get through with numerous gymnastic/ballet moves or poses on ice.”

I agree
Cranberryapple
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by Tiggergirl:
“Kind of defeats the point in even having a competition then doesn't it if you automatically know who is going to win it. That takes away from the show for me.

I would rather someone wins like Jennifer or Chico that maybe isn't that great to begin with but then improves and progresses that IMO is the point of the show not taking someone who is brilliant to begin with and then there being no real competition which is how the show seems to have been since Ray won.”

I agree
Tejas
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by Tiggergirl:
“Unless your psychic never assume anything until it happens. Look at what happened to Sebastien in the Ultimate Skills test that could happen to any of the three you think will shine and Jennifer could come out on top.

Anything can and does happen in live shows when they are under pressure so I think its silly to come out with stuff like that.

People assumed Jorgie would get perfect 10s last week and she ended up bottom of the leaderboard see my point about not assuming anything”


Absolutely true - people seem to have forgotten what happened with Seb and although I hope it doesn't, this could potentially happen again tonight.

On paper I think Jen will be disadvantaged by the skills test, but it's no certainty and she has surprised me greatly in the last few weeks so anything's possible! Jorgie seems a better skater but she can be a bit messy at times, as Robin has pointed out, and she may come unstuck. But it probably won't matter as the lower her marks are, the more her fans will vote!
footygirl
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“Absolutely true - people seem to have forgotten what happened with Seb and although I hope it doesn't, this could potentially happen again tonight.

On paper I think Jen will be disadvantaged by the skills test, but it's no certainty and she has surprised me greatly in the last few weeks so anything's possible! Jorgie seems a better skater but she can be a bit messy at times, as Robin has pointed out, and she may come unstuck. But it probably won't matter as the lower her marks are, the more her fans will vote!”

And the Dan fans who seem to vote for him regardless
Tejas
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“And the Dan fans who seem to vote for him regardless”

Eh? I was talking about Jorgie picking up extra votes!
SydneyHedgehog
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by Tiggergirl:
“Kind of defeats the point in even having a competition then doesn't it if you automatically know who is going to win it.”

I'll alert the Olympics chiefs to tell them to cancel the 100 metre mens race and just give the gold medal to Usain Bolt now and save us all the hassle.

Imagine how there would have been no golf tournaments for a period of about 10 years because Tiger Woods was winning them all anyway so why bother .........
yellowlabbie
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by SydneyHedgehog:
“I'll alert the Olympics chiefs to tell them to cancel the 100 metre mens race and just give the gold medal to Usain Bolt now and save us all the hassle.

Imagine how there would have been no golf tournaments for a period of about 10 years because Tiger Woods was winning them all anyway so why bother ......... ”

Now this is a good point
footygirl
18-03-2012
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“Eh? I was talking about Jorgie picking up extra votes!”

sorry - talking at cross purposes- I do think Jennifer should go though as she is not as good as skater as the other three. For me Matt and Chico are the best two skaters, either one would deserve to go straight through to the final

Jorgie and Jennifer - well Jorgie is better than Jennifer but the problem is the Dan Whiston fanbase, that may ultimately cost Chico a place in the final
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