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The Ratings Thread (Part 33)
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grimshaw
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“There's going to be a lot of 10+ million shows this year.

The Voice will no doubt break the 10 million mark with the officials for last weeks episode and presumably The X Factor, Strictly and Downton will all top 10 million before the end of the year as well. On top of that there's the Olympic opening (and maybe closing) ceremony which you'd think would also break the 10 million barrier. That would lock us in for a top 10 where everything is above 10 million – could we push a top 15?

Its not impossible that New Tricks might manage to break 10 million with an Autumn run this year. This years Doctor Who Christmas special is going to be the introduction of a new companion so that's got potential to hit highs. Is there a Mrs Brown's Boys Christmas special planned this year? That could do it with the right scheduling. What else am I missing?”

Top 15? Possibly I suppose. Who will manage 10 million for Christmas I suspect as you say.
Its first episode of the series might just manage it - certainly its already being hyped amongst fans and I think will give a lot for the press to get their teeth into!

I'm not sure though.

So
- That top 5
- The Voice
- X Factor
- Strictly

Only 8.
New Tricks? Possibly.
Downton will.
Mrs Browns Boys? Possibly.
Doctor Who - aye.

Thats 12, with a lot of 'meh'.
I'm a Celeb could as well I suppose. Apprentice Finale I'd have said, but that seems questionable now.

Olympics is up for question depending on how the Beeb schedule it. Just the opening ceremony, or more? Hmmm...

I think a 15 is pushing it, to work there might need to be some breakout hits.
I suppose Merlin might manage it in the Strictly finale slot and if it grows again (likely, the slot is made for gaining viewers imo)
rzt
10-04-2012
Demographic Information for BBC1 and ITV1 for Monday 2nd to Sunday 8th April: http://i44.tinypic.com/52mkc4.jpg

Top programmes for the week among 18-49 year olds from that list (excludes soaps) were:

1. The Voice UK: 16.5
2. Britain's Got Talent: 15.6
3. The Apprentice: 12.4
4. Take Me Out: 8.4
5. Benidorm: 8.0
6. UCL: Chelsea v Benfica: 6.7
7. The Syndicate: 6.6
8. Waterloo Road: 5.9
9. Silent Witness: 5.7
10. Fraud Squad: 5.6

Note: Each number indicates the % of the UK 18-49 population. For e.g. 16.5% of 18-49s in the UK watched The Voice etc.
fodg09
10-04-2012
Still nothing to write home about but Mad Men's time shift slightly better than Sky had made out with the first episode getting 209k and the second 101k.

Sky Sports F1's share drops below 0.1% for a week with no live Grand Prix.
grimshaw
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Demographic Information for BBC1 and ITV1 for Monday 2nd to Sunday 8th April: http://i44.tinypic.com/52mkc4.jpg

Top programmes for the week among 18-49 year olds from that list (excludes soaps) were:

1. The Voice UK: 16.5
2. Britain's Got Talent: 15.6
3. The Apprentice: 12.4
4. Take Me Out: 8.4
5. Benidorm: 8.0
6. UCL: Chelsea v Benfica: 6.7
7. The Syndicate: 6.6
8. Waterloo Road: 5.9
9. Silent Witness: 5.7
10. Fraud Squad: 5.6

Note: Each number indicates the % of the UK 18-49 population. For e.g. 16.5% of 18-49s in the UK watched The Voice etc.”

I think someone a few days ago complained the BBC couldn't survive on ratings alone due to how it skews:yawn:
Georged123
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“There's going to be a lot of 10+ million shows this year.

The Voice will no doubt break the 10 million mark with the officials for last weeks episode and presumably The X Factor, Strictly and Downton will all top 10 million before the end of the year as well. On top of that there's the Olympic opening (and maybe closing) ceremony which you'd think would also break the 10 million barrier. That would lock us in for a top 10 where everything is above 10 million – could we push a top 15?”

Last year we had 16 shows all over 10m so I would think 15 over 10m this year would be easily achievable.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Demographic Information for BBC1 and ITV1 for Monday 2nd to Sunday 8th April: http://i44.tinypic.com/52mkc4.jpg

Top programmes for the week among 18-49 year olds from that list (excludes soaps) were:

1. The Voice UK: 16.5
2. Britain's Got Talent: 15.6
3. The Apprentice: 12.4
4. Take Me Out: 8.4
5. Benidorm: 8.0
6. UCL: Chelsea v Benfica: 6.7
7. The Syndicate: 6.6
8. Waterloo Road: 5.9
9. Silent Witness: 5.7
10. Fraud Squad: 5.6

Note: Each number indicates the % of the UK 18-49 population. For e.g. 16.5% of 18-49s in the UK watched The Voice etc.”

Oh My!

Bit of a surprise to see The Voice getting more 16-34s, more 18-49s and higher ABC1s.
RobbieSykes123
10-04-2012
So - BGT boosted by an older skewing audience then?

The old dears don't half like a dancing dog...
rzt
10-04-2012
'One Born Every Minute' consolidated series averages (inc +1):

2010: 3.81m
2011: 3.62m
2012: 4.42m

It rated excellent this year, up over 20% from last year's series average. And they've gone from having 8 episodes in series 1 to thirteen episodes in the most recent series, so Channel 4 are getting a solid number of hours out of it.

Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Bit of a surprise to see The Voice getting more 16-35s, more 18-49s and higher ABC1s.”

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“So - BGT boosted by an older skewing audience then?

The old dears don't half like a dancing dog...”

The Voice and BGT have almost identical skews (both skewing 23% for 16-34s, 47% 18-49) - the only difference being ABC1s, which there's always a 'default' gap between BBC1 and ITV1 programmes anyway. So whichever show is getting the bigger total audience, will be getting the bigger 18-49 audience too. The above figures are full-slot figures by the way, BGT had a slightly higher 16-34 audience than TVUK in the tape-checked numbers.
mlt11
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Sun - 6.30pm to 12.30am: 474k (2.4%)
* peak: 810k at 18.30”

Thanks a lot, rzt.
C.M.W.
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“There's going to be a lot of 10+ million shows this year.

...

That would lock us in for a top 10 where everything is above 10 million – could we push a top 15?

...

What else am I missing?”

Miranda, Xmas Day....
C14E
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Channel 4 (+4%) and Channel 5 (+2%) overall both increased their market shares year-on-year. ITV (-0.4%) slipped slightly while BBC (-3%) experienced the biggest drop out of the four broadcasters. In terms of terrestrial channels, C4 (+6%) experienced y-o-y growth while C5 was stable or even up (+4% inc +1). ITV1 (-2%), BBC1 (-3%), BBC2 (-5%) were all down vs. March 2011.”

It's always interesting to get these figures because they so often paint quite a different picture to the usual tone of the thread. Who would have thought, for instance, that Channel 4 was the best performing terrestrial channel last month? And Channel 5 growing even without Big Brother must be a good sign for them.
The Full Sparky
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“There's going to be a lot of 10+ million shows this year.

The Voice will no doubt break the 10 million mark with the officials for last weeks episode and presumably The X Factor, Strictly and Downton will all top 10 million before the end of the year as well. On top of that there's the Olympic opening (and maybe closing) ceremony which you'd think would also break the 10 million barrier. That would lock us in for a top 10 where everything is above 10 million – could we push a top 15?

Its not impossible that New Tricks might manage to break 10 million with an Autumn run this year. This years Doctor Who Christmas special is going to be the introduction of a new companion so that's got potential to hit highs. Is there a Mrs Brown's Boys Christmas special planned this year? That could do it with the right scheduling. What else am I missing?”

I would guarantee the night of the Men's 100m at the Olympics will peak above 10m (tends to be the most watched night I think of the Olympics) Whether it can hold that over a 3 hour period is questionable but certainly possible.
rzt
10-04-2012
Just over three months into the year, here are the consolidated series averages for BBC One and ITV1 dramas:

BBC One
1 - 10.61m - Call The Midwife... (NEW)
2 - 10.24m - Sherlock... (+16%)
3 - 7.93m - Silent Witness*... (-1%)
4 - 6.58m - Birdsong... (NEW)
5 - 6.21m - Hustle... (-9%)
6 - 6.12m - Upstairs Downstairs... (-27%)
7 - 5.87m - The Syndicate*... (NEW)
8 - 5.27m - Prisoners' Wives... (NEW)
9 - 4.85m - Public Enemies... (NEW)
10 - 4.76m - Inside Men... (NEW)

ITV1 (inc ITV1+1 in brackets)
1 - 7.87m (8.21m) - Endeavour... (NEW)
2 - 7.23m (7.59m) - Scott & Bailey* [STV]... (+6%)
3 - 7.17m (7.50m) - Above Suspicion... (+13%)
4 - 7.16m (7.52m) - Wild at Heart... (-7%)
5 - 7.13m (7.60m) - Titanic*... (NEW)
6 - 6.68m (7.03m) - Whitechapel [STV]... (+16%)
7 - 6.10m (6.43m) - Midsomer Murders... (-5%)
8 - 5.18m (5.62m) - Law & Order UK [STV]...(+9%)
9 - 5.07m (5.41m) - Kidnap & Ransom... (-10%)
10 - 3.77m (4.00m) - Love Life [STV]... (NEW)
11 - 3.63m (3.91m) - Eternal Law [STV]... (NEW)

Individual episode ratings: http://i42.tinypic.com/20j5myg.jpg

Notes
- * means that the programme is still currently airing and its average will change (Titanic, Silent Witness and Scott & Bailey will all go down).
- Ratings in italics are estimated averages as I couldn't obtain the actual ratings for a few episodes from the Barb website. But they are pretty accurate averages and should be correct to 1 decimal place. By the next update I should have those actual consolidated numbers.
- [STV] means that these dramas weren't shown in Scotland and therefore these averages are automatically about 7-9% lower than if they had been fully networked.
- The ITV drama year-on-year differences are based on comparing this year's (inc +1) figures to last year's (inc +1) figures. They also take into account if a programme was fully networked last series and not fully networked this year (or vice versa) so that the % rise/fall is an accurate representation of how the series has done in the areas it's actually been shown in.
RobbieSykes123
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“The Voice and BGT have almost identical skews (both skewing 23% for 16-34s, 47% 18-49) - the only difference being ABC1s, which there's always a 'default' gap between BBC1 and ITV1 programmes anyway. So whichever show is getting the bigger total audience, will be getting the bigger 18-49 audience too.”

BGT has the bigger total audience - yet the figures you've posted show Voice has the bigger 18-49 audience (16.5% of 18-49s vs 15.6%)

rzt
10-04-2012
UKTV hatches highest ever Easter ratings
Quote:
“Official BARB data has confirmed UKTV’s highest rating Easter on record with a 5.27% share of total audience, an increase of 19% share and 38% volume over the Easter period in 2011.

UKTV – an independent commercial joint venture between BBC Worldwide and Scripps Networks International – reported its highest rating day of 2012 on Easter Sunday with a 6% adult share, up 22% on last year’s Easter.

Consolidated end of Q1 2012 figures show that UKTV increased its share of viewing by 9% on its 2011 average.

Grimm on Watch was the highest rating Pay TV entertainment programme on Bank Holiday Monday with 477,000 viewers and a 1.8% share. Other top scoring shows for the network include Man v. Food Presents (Dave, 8pm, Easter Sunday) with 451,000 viewers, and Roald Dahl-inspired film Matilda (Watch, 1:45pm, Easter Sunday) with 227,000 viewers.

UKTV’s sensational female-skewed channel, Really posted its best daily share ever with 0.62% on Easter Monday and leading natural history channel, Eden, recorded a 57% increase on viewership across the Easter holidays.

UKTV CEO, Darren Childs commented “More people enjoyed their Easter with entertainment from the UKTV network than ever before. It continues the trend of the UKTV’s surging network growth from 2011 and into 2012, with strong investment in quality programming making UKTV the popular choice for viewers.””

Source: UKTV

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“BGT has the bigger total audience - yet the figures you've posted show Voice has the bigger 18-49 audience (16.5% of 18-49s vs 15.6%)

”

The Voice UK (9.54m) had a bigger total audience than Britain's Got Talent (9.10m) [excluding +1, full slot] on Saturday 7th April, as stated in that table. 4.51m of TVUK's 9.54m were aged 18-49, which is 47% of its audience. 4.26m of BGT's 9.10m were aged 18-49, which is 47% of its audience as well.
AlexiR
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“He was mentioned as a potential host/panellist for Britain's Got Talent as well, wasn't he? O'Grady seems to turn down a load of stuff, yet he'll happily do some dull chat show. I wonder if he could do a Barrymore-esque series, talking to and messing about with the public. I'm guessing the dogs series he was plugging on Des' show will be an opposite-'stEnders affair.”

Didn't he shoot a pilot of some kind for Britain's Got Talent which was ultimately scrapped in part because the original format they were using didn't work and because he jumped ship to Channel 4?

It is strange that ITV aren't doing anything of note with O'Grady though. As someone else mentioned it would be interesting to know if they're offering him projects and he's turning them down or whether they've just got nothing for him. Again though he seems like a more suitable prime time ITV1 option than Keith Lemon.

Originally Posted by The Full Sparky:
“I would guarantee the night of the Men's 100m at the Olympics will peak above 10m (tends to be the most watched night I think of the Olympics) Whether it can hold that over a 3 hour period is questionable but certainly possible.”

Proof positive that the BBC aren't totally obsessed with ratings chasing. If they were then we'd see events like the 100m final schedule in a slot by themselves and not packaged as part of the Olympics coverage.
Dancc
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“BBC: 32.6% (Jan-March 2011: 33.0%)
ITV: 23.1% (23.5%)
CH4: 11.4% (11.8%)
CH5: 6.2% (6.0%)

So for the first quarter of 2012, CH5 (+3.3%) was the only broadcaster up year-on-year. The other three broadcasters were down: BBC (-1.2%), ITV (-1.7%), CH4 (-3.4%).”

Good stuff. The current schedule should see them through nicely until around June, then Big Brother will be back and they'll be hoping it picks up a bit on last year in order to keep this good run going. Dallas I'm really excited about too, should be the biggest US drama launch of the year if they get it right and I trust that they will.

I think 5* is down because people are using it less to catch up on C5 repeats now C5+1 exists. That's when the decline roughly started.
Pizzatheaction
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“House Party just self-destructed, you simply could not have turned it round after Noel was all over the papers saying it was rubbish.”

Yes, it was a shock to see his complaints being as public as they were. I had a feeling it was game over after he refused to do the show one week, and it had to be replaced by a compilation.

I might be wrong, but I blame Guy Freeman for what went wrong with House Party. He did the first series of Jim Davidson's Generation Game, too, and it was awful.
dan2008
10-04-2012
Is there Any figures for EastEnders Omnibus on Friday Night?

Also...

The Omnibus will now be on every Friday Night/Saturday Morning on BBC1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eastender...as-moved.shtml
RobbieSykes123
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Proof positive that the BBC aren't totally obsessed with ratings chasing. If they were then we'd see events like the 100m final schedule in a slot by themselves and not packaged as part of the Olympics coverage.”

Ditto for the Royal Wedding last year, which got them an average 19m+ viewers but only got reported as 13.6m

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Yes, it was a shock to see his complaints being as public as they were. I had a feeling it was game over after he refused to do the show one week, and it had to be replaced by a compilation.

I might be wrong, but I blame Guy Freeman for what went wrong with House Party. He did the first series of Jim Davidson's Generation Game, too, and it was awful.”

I think Noel was stung by the increasingly vocal criticism of House Party after the revamp, the falling ratings, and probably knowing himself that it just wasn't working in the new format. He probably felt he had to lash out to say "look viewers/critics - I agree with you, we need to get back to how it was, and this isn't my doing".

It must have been a very difficult time for him, and I can see how it soured things with the BBC, sadly.

I always felt short-changed by NHP ending after 6 years (only 4 and a half of which were brilliant), but then it's easy to forget (for those of us who only really remember Saturday Roadshow onwards) that Noel had been doing essentially the same show, with a few breaks, on primetime Saturday night BBC1 between 1982 and 1997, including the trauma of one incarnation being abruptly ended after the tragic death of a contestant.

That's not a bad run, really.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“[u]The Voice UK (9.54m) had a bigger total audience than Britain's Got Talent (9.10m) [excluding +1, full slot] on Saturday 7th April, as stated in that table. 4.51m of TVUK's 9.54m were aged 18-49, which is 47% of its audience. 4.26m of BGT's 9.10m were aged 18-49, which is 47% of its audience as well.”

Sorry. I was speed-reading and a week out - thinking we were looking at the official figures just out, not the overnights from 3 days ago.
rzt
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“Is there Any figures for EastEnders Omnibus on Friday Night?”

EastEnders Omnibus (23.30-01.25): 477k (7.2%)
cylon6
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“I remember Muriel Gray talking at great length in the Radio Times about how much she enjoyed Noel's House Party, and famously Alan Yentob said it was the most important show on BBC1. Chris Evans too used to keep on saying how brilliant it was during his Big Breakfast days, when he was the coolest man in Britain. You could certainly stand up in the early nineties and saw it was brilliant and nobody would laugh. And the ratings came despite the fact it was shoved around the schedules to a ridiculous extent, it would never be at the same time two weeks running in its imperial phase (in fact, when it got a fixed slot before the Lottery, that was when it started going rubbish).”

I'll never forget the day when Clive Anderson had Peter Cook on his show and Peter said he liked Noel's House Party. And the day NHP won the BAFTA I loved seeing trendy comedy performers/shows having a WTF moment!

Quote:
“House Party just self-destructed, you simply could not have turned it round after Noel was all over the papers saying it was rubbish. It wasn't like Cowell coming over as a perfectionist either, it was just like he was at war with the Beeb. For my money House Party jumped the shark when it started getting too big, like how the mechanics of NTV became more important than NTV itself, so instead of the brilliant click of the fingers and you were on, there would be ten minutes of explaining how they set it up and how complicated it all was, and the victim themselves barely appeared.”

House Party suffered the same fate as Telly Addicts. The revamps moved the show away from what worked and made them unrecognisable to what they were when they started. I forget which series of House Party it was but for several weeks the set didn't resemble the great house and was just a generic light entertainment set. Why in God's name did they do that? That was when it really started going wrong and you just watched as the show was imploding. Remember that second US show? *SHUDDER* And the final series I just don't want to think about. Such a shame. It could have made it to 10 series and then ended.
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Yes, it was a shock to see his complaints being as public as they were. I had a feeling it was game over after he refused to do the show one week, and it had to be replaced by a compilation.

I might be wrong, but I blame Guy Freeman for what went wrong with House Party. He did the first series of Jim Davidson's Generation Game, too, and it was awful.”

I think when Michael Leggo left House Party lost its best producer.The changes Freeman introduced, like removing the whole concept of the show being in a stately house, were where it started to go all wrong.
Dancc
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“EastEnders Omnibus (23.30-01.25): 477k (7.2%)”

Low audience share for BBC One standards. How does that compare roughly to previous weeks across those hours?
dan2008
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“EastEnders Omnibus (23.30-01.25): 477k (7.2%)”

Thankyou
Pizzatheaction
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I think Noel was stung by the increasingly vocal criticism of House Party after the revamp, the falling ratings, and probably knowing himself that it just wasn't working in the new format. He probably felt he had to lash out to say "look viewers/critics - I agree with you, we need to get back to how it was, and this isn't my doing".

It must have been a very difficult time for him, and I can see how it soured things with the BBC, sadly.

I always felt short-changed by NHP ending after 6 years (only 4 and a half of which were brilliant), but then it's easy to forget (for those of us who only really remember Saturday Roadshow onwards) that Noel had been doing essentially the same show, with a few breaks, on primetime Saturday night BBC1 between 1982 and 1997, including the trauma of one incarnation being abruptly ended after the tragic death of a contestant.

That's not a bad run, really.”

Yes, the new producer managed to suck a lot of the show's charm out of it, so it was never really the same from autumn 1996 onwards.

It ran until March 1999, though.
ftv
10-04-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Low audience share for BBC One standards. How does that compare roughly to previous weeks across those hours?”

Extraordinary decision to screen it then - soon we'll be hearing the omnibus has been axed because ratings are poor
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