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House Party suffered the same fate as Telly Addicts. The revamps moved the show away from what worked and made them unrecognisable to what they were when they started. I forget which series of House Party it was but for several weeks the set didn't resemble the great house and was just a generic light entertainment set. Why in God's name did they do that? That was when it really started going wrong and you just watched as the show was imploding. Remember that second US show? *SHUDDER* And the final series I just don't want to think about. Such a shame. It could have made it to 10 series and then ended.
I think when Michael Leggo left House Party lost its best producer.The changes Freeman introduced, like removing the whole concept of the show being in a stately house, were where it started to go all wrong. |
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Extraordinary decision to screen it then - soon we'll be hearing the omnibus has been axed because ratings are poor
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Low audience share for BBC One standards. How does that compare roughly to previous weeks across those hours?
02/3- 692k (10.5%) 09/3- 794k (12.6%) 16/3- 758k (11.7%) 23/3- 1.86m (28.8%) <-- Sport Relief 30/3- 823k (13.6%) 06/4- 477k (7.2%) <-- EE omnibus The EE omnibus rated probably about 60% of what BBC1 normally gets in that slot. |
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They may as well drop the omnibus if they're going to show it in such a silly slot.
People seemed by the fact it was actually on Friday Night. This week it's on after 12 also
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Here's how BBC1 rated in the Friday 11.30-01.25 slot the previous few weeks:
02/3- 692k (10.5%) 09/3- 794k (12.6%) 16/3- 758k (11.7%) 23/3- 1.86m (28.8%) <-- Sport Relief 30/3- 823k (13.6%) 06/4- 477k (7.2%) <-- EE omnibus The EE omnibus rated probably about 60% of what BBC1 normally gets in that slot. |
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I remember that final series of Telly Addicts. It was unrecognisable from the previous one, and probably no coincidence it was delayed by six months before transmission.
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Here's how BBC1 rated in the Friday 11.30-01.25 slot the previous few weeks:
02/3- 692k (10.5%) 09/3- 794k (12.6%) 16/3- 758k (11.7%) 23/3- 1.86m (28.8%) <-- Sport Relief 30/3- 823k (13.6%) 06/4- 477k (7.2%) <-- EE omnibus The EE omnibus rated probably about 60% of what BBC1 normally gets in that slot. |
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What channels actually do well late night? It strikes me the main channels go downhill quite rapidly after half 10-ish. Is it just the youth channels BBC3/E4 that gets a boost? I'm quite intrigued.
BBC1: 713k BBC3: 612k ITV1: 430k Channel 5: 416k ITV2: 359k BBC2: 304k 5USA: 252k ITV4: 242k Channel 4: 218k E4: 212k ITV3: 212k Film4: 156k BBC4: 128k You're right, BBC3 does seem to do very well at late-night. |
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Ditto for the Royal Wedding last year, which got them an average 19m+ viewers but only got reported as 13.6m
I think Noel was stung by the increasingly vocal criticism of House Party after the revamp, the falling ratings, and probably knowing himself that it just wasn't working in the new format. He probably felt he had to lash out to say "look viewers/critics - I agree with you, we need to get back to how it was, and this isn't my doing". It must have been a very difficult time for him, and I can see how it soured things with the BBC, sadly. I always felt short-changed by NHP ending after 6 years (only 4 and a half of which were brilliant), but then it's easy to forget (for those of us who only really remember Saturday Roadshow onwards) that Noel had been doing essentially the same show, with a few breaks, on primetime Saturday night BBC1 between 1982 and 1997, including the trauma of one incarnation being abruptly ended after the tragic death of a contestant. That's not a bad run, really. It is unheard of thesedays for a show to be on air for many weeks each side of Christmas. |
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After such a promising start, The Voice of Americas ratings have been going down last few weeks and another Monday low yesterday of 3.9 [10.4m]. This is less than 4.6 [12.3m] season ones 2nd live performance show had and less than X Factor USAs 2nd live performance show audience of 4.3 [12m].
This is not good to see. The question NBC must be asking is the lower ratings due to tough competition from other networks or is the format already running out of steam? Hopefully its cos of the competition, CBS were back to showing originals last night of their very popular sitcoms. As for Dancing with the Stars, its doing terrible with young adults. |
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I'm not sure in general but just choosing a normal working day like last Monday, for example, between 23:00-01:00 here are what the main channels had:
BBC1: 713k BBC3: 612k ITV1: 430k Channel 5: 416k ITV2: 359k BBC2: 304k 5USA: 252k ITV4: 242k Channel 4: 218k E4: 212k ITV3: 212k Film4: 156k BBC4: 128k You're right, BBC3 does seem to do very well at late-night. |
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You're right, BBC3 does seem to do very well at late-night.
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Ronant, can I ask why you stopped doing Tvratingsuk on Twitter? It was good to follow the ratings on Twitter, will you start again
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Also factor in that there were about 25 episodes per series, back in the days when TV had proper seasons, it would start just as the nights started to draw in and end when the nights came light again.
It is unheard of thesedays for a show to be on air for many weeks each side of Christmas. X Factor is over by mid-December, and Strictly only goes on until Christmas. In the 1990s, it would have seemed amazing to think BBC One and ITV1 would have no big Saturday night shows in January, February, March. |
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Ronant, can I ask why you stopped doing Tvratingsuk on Twitter? It was good to follow the ratings on Twitter, will you start again
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US Ratings Monday April 9
'Super Monday' continues for NBC as they take another primetime Monday victory but with CBS back in originals it was the closest contest to date. The Voice continued to lose ground dropping another two tenths week-on-week. The speculation and reasons as to why can fill pages and pages. At 10PM Smash held steady. Over on ABC the other two-hour reality monster was steady week-on-week and at 10PM a repeat of Scandal's pilot (which debuted on Thursday last week) replaced Castle. We'll see if the repeat screening has the desired effect Friday afternoon. CBS returned to originals with How I Met Your Mother and 2 Broke Girls both dropping a tenth to season lows. Two and a Half Men was at a series low at 9PM (the Monday block suddenly needs a new flagship could that put the stoppers on a 2 hour Thursday block?). Mike & Molly and Hawaii Five-0 both jumped a tenth. After things picked up a little last week Fox's Monday night woes look to be on the horizon once more. Bones dropped four tenths and House was down two tenths. On the plus side both kept their head above a 2. The CW line-up was steady vs. their last original airings about six years ago. CBS 8PM: How I Met Your Mother 3.4 [7.98] 8:30PM: 2 Broke Girls 3.4 [8.71] 9PM: Two and a Half Men 3.5 [10.59] 9:30PM: Mike & Molly 3.2 [9.55] 10PM: Hawaii Five-0 2.6 [10.19] ABC 8PM: Dancing with the Stars 2.7 [15.32] 9PM: Dancing with the Stars 3.1 [16.82] 10PM: Scandal [r] 1.3 [6.74] Fox 8PM: Bones 2.1 [7.38] 9PM: House 2.0 [6.06] NBC 8PM: The Voice 3.7 [10.08] 9PM: The Voice 4.2 [10.72] 10PM: Smash 2.1 [6.02] The CW 8PM: Gossip Girl 0.5 [1.05] 9PM: Hart of Dixie 0.5 [1.12] |
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EastEnders Omnibus (23.30-01.25): 477k (7.2%)
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Some good news for Sky Atlantic HBO have picked up a third season of Game of Thrones.
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Yes, in that way, things such as Noel's House Party and Blind Date have never really been replaced.
X Factor is over by mid-December, and Strictly only goes on until Christmas. In the 1990s, it would have seemed amazing to think BBC One and ITV1 would have no big Saturday night shows in January, February, March. |
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Beats me, too, as this is when such ratings juggernauts as The Two Ronnies and Game for a Laugh used to be shown. ITV1 seems to go into a wind down between TXF and BGT and BBC One isn't much more lively. However, the interlude between the Cowell shows does give Casualty a boost in the ratings.
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Looking at BARB, the first Episode of Once Upon A Time got 2.94m when you add +1, and it was their top programme on both channels...
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Fantastic post as always Steve. I've been thinking exactly the same about Paul O'Grady. Danny Cohen has said one of the slots he wants to improve is Saturday 6pm. Well Total Wipeout's been axed, Epic Win and Don't Scare the Hare were rubbish flops. If he's got any sense he'd ask O'Grady to do something there - a House Party style show would be wonderful. He'd also be a great Generation Game host.
Pair his new show with The Voice next winter and they'll be onto a big winner. Not sure how costly the repeat fees would be in comparison to cheap quiz show filler but always thought rerunning Doctor Who, Merlin and even Robin Hood in that 5.30pm slot would be worth while. Quote:
Sky Sports F1's share drops below 0.1% for a week with no live Grand Prix.
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'One Born Every Minute' consolidated series averages (inc +1):
2010: 3.81m 2011: 3.62m 2012: 4.42m It rated excellent this year, up over 20% from last year's series average. And they've gone from having 8 episodes in series 1 to thirteen episodes in the most recent series, so Channel 4 are getting a solid number of hours out of it. Quote:
It is strange that ITV aren't doing anything of note with O'Grady though. As someone else mentioned it would be interesting to know if they're offering him projects and he's turning them down or whether they've just got nothing for him. Again though he seems like a more suitable prime time ITV1 option than Keith Lemon.
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Looking at BARB, the first Episode of Once Upon A Time got 2.94m when you add +1, and it was their top programme on both channels...
![]() It's probably less than they thought though given the nature of the marketing and the spot they secured during Britain's Got Talent. It's fair to say high-profile imports normally start higher than that on C5. The Mentalist, which launched in the same week three years ago, premiered to over 4 million viewers. FlashForward, another ABC show, also debuted to over 4m later that year. This was probably their biggest new acquisition since then. I dunno what put people off but maybe it's just not as accessible as those shows, the constant switching backwards and forwards between the two time periods won't be for everyone and I guess UK viewers are not as sold on this current craze for fairytales. I also wonder whether advertising it as from the writers of Lost worked against it rather than in its favour! Hopefully it will stabilise soon. It has made a big difference to their fortunes in a difficult slot so far but the drop on Sunday was a lot bigger than expected. I can see why they acquired Once Upon a Time but it was definitely a risk and until the numbers stabilise it's difficult to say whether or not it's paid off. |
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The CW 8PM: Gossip Girl 0.5 [1.05] 9PM: Hart of Dixie 0.5 [1.12] |
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Voice v BGT
Schedule for Sat 21st shows 7-8.30pm The Voice 8-9pm Britains Got Talent A longer overlap; I thought ITV might crack and move BGT a bit later. Sun 22nd 7-8.30pm The Voice 8pm TBA for ITV Who will make the next move? http://www.radiotimes.com/tv |
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by the fact it was actually on Friday Night. This week it's on after 12 also


