BBC One could have:

The Voice Uk (7pm)
Casualty (8.30pm)
National Lottery Draws (9.20pm)
BBC News (9.30pm)
The Voice UK Results (9.45pm)

But my prefered option is that they have the results combined in the performance show so its 7 to 9pm. Its a better way of keeping viewers watching, anything after 9o'clock for a seperate results show is too late for some viewers.

It was pretty clear after the first week that The Voice wasn't a bomb and wasn't going to drop like a stone. It was also incredibly obvious after the first week that Take Me Out wasn't helped by the last slot or the Talent lead-in.


Unless of course they aired it before Britain's Got Talent. Although that would have meant ditching the all important content that was You've Been Framed and a Best of TV Burp (or in fact only one of them). How they would have survived that I don't know...

Except most people didn't even need a week to know that ITV's schedule was a disaster waiting to happen.

They don't need a 2 hour show.

NBC was able to do the exact same format with 90 minutes of actual content last year. The same is true for just a straight performance show. NBC is able to get through the same number of contestants the UK version is going to have with 90 minutes of content this year. There's really no reason why the BBC need to extend The Voice to 2 hours and they absolutely should not do it.

90 minute gives them a quick slick show. 2 hours gives them a bloated show that drags along with too much filler.

On This Morning today they had the Sun entertainment chappy doing a slot promoting the best new TV this week including the new series of The Cube with Phil Schofield sat there talking to him about his own show.

Phil then went to some lengths to plug the new series and revealed some of what is going to happen - with details about more than one contestant, up to and including in one case how many lives they use up and what they went on to do.

This is certainly a novel way of promoting a game show and I suspect something to do with ITV pushing for better ratings in its new slot.

NBC has 2 hour performance shows and 1 hour results shows. What I am saying BBC should do is have just a 2 hour show including the results, which is the same as NBC once adverts are taken out. NBC version has a couple more contestants but it only means BBC spending 1 more minute on each contestant performance than NBC, which is hardly earth-shatteringly different.

Beeb resists being too smug over ITV climb-down
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17682808

Grauniad reports it too
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...lent-the-voice

I wondered how long it would be before the BBC News website ran with the story.

They ran a story based on Simon Cowell tweeting a few days ago, so seem to be dancing to the same tune as The Sun & the Daily Mirror do.

One point to note is that these initial schedules are being discussed as if they are public knowledge, rather than then being just internal drafts. Many readers will be wondering where these schedules are and how come they are never shown in any listings mags or anything.

For an entirely unscripted night NBC did quite well, the recovery for The Voice being the most encouraging thing for them.

Not sure Fashion Star is doing enough for a renewal. I can see why they're trying fashion - it seems like there should be a reality series there. But I watched 30 minutes and found it to be incredibly clunky. I get the idea of incorporating music - but opening the show with a standalone music performance seemed odd. The 2 panels don't work, especially the "celebrity mentors" who seem to have no role. The clips from "during the week" are rubbish with no significant narrative and no connection to the contestants. And Elle MacPherson is a terrible host.

Not true.

They could have easily started the show at 8.15pm for week 3. You knew after the first couple of weeks that it'd be a hit. Shifting stuff forward by 15 minutes wouldn't have made much difference.

As if Schofe himself wasn't reason enough not to watch The Cube, he is now busying himself telling everyone what happens beforehand?

The "new slot" only lasts a week. Against The Voice it's going to get a right battering!

Theyve also been talking about the story on BBC Radio as well.

All this press coverage means that if the BBC instigate a clash with your all night live shows that you want, it will look bad on their side.

Only as I mentioned NBC managed the exact same format you're suggesting last year with 90 minutes of actual content. There's absolutely no reason or need for the BBC to run a 2 hour show. There is absolutely no need for the Saturday shows to run longer than 90 minutes. If they do they'll be horribly bloated and contain too much filler regardless of what format they're using.

NBC have a stand alone performance show this year that has 90 minutes of actual content. There's no reason why the BBC can't do exactly the same. Last year NBC had a combined performance and results show (that featured performances with the coaches and guests) that had 90 minutes of actual content. There's no reason why the BBC can't do exactly the same. There is zero need for a 2 hour show.

Shameless and hilarious! Oh Schofe!

Remember the early days of Strictly Come Dancing and The X Factor had results shows on Saturday. The X Factor's was around 9pm and Strictly's afterwards at 9.30ish.Depending on the length of the live shows and BGT perhaps The Voice could squeeze a results show into Saturday. I think Sunday might happen though.

The thing is with stuff like Project Runway there are already fashion reality shows and I'm struggling to work out what the difference is between Fashion Star and stuff like Project Runway. The show isn't embarrassing itself though so I suspect NBC might give it another run. If I were them I'd probably pick it up as a safety net that could run over the summer if its not needed.

Sticking with the NBC unscripted block The Biggest Loser has really benefited from being cut down to an hour. Hopefully NBC are taking note of that for next season.

smug? it was reported on Radio 2 News just before Drivetime, honestly I question how this can be called news.

ok start for the Matt Lucas Awards

Assuming the Sunday Battle Round show holds up if they're doing a stand alone results show then I suspect it'll probably land on Sunday. I can't say I'm overjoyed about that prospect but there's really no reason for them to try and squeeze in a Saturday night results show like Strictly and X Factor used to do when they know the Sunday slot works – and as an added bonus provides a boost for Sunday night.

I think Dan's got his dates wrong. It happens on April 21st.


That's good for advertisers and ITV.

The Voice Uk S1 teams will each have 5 members, 1 more than the US version had for its first season. So that'll add at least another 12-13 minutes to the running time.

I doubt there will be a combined show.

Just to clarify, that's in the 18-49 demo not total viewers.

Which you can make up by cutting the 'social media correspondent'. Although maybe those part of the show just feel like they go on for 20 minutes. In general though its not impossible to shave 10 minutes of filler from this stuff when you consider that the BBC can cut the links to and from breaks, (hopefully) the social media correspondent and shave some time off of the pre-performance videos and the post-performance comments and interviews.

I stand by (and repeat) that 90 minutes is all the time they need. It assures that its a slick fast moving show. No one needs an X Factor like marathon to launch the live shows.

They need to move it later though now the evenings are getting lighter. No point starting at 7pm when people are sat outside BBQing. I think they need to air it at 8pm, to protect licence fee payers' investment...


Other than the main 10.35pm "staples", ratings in the 1.5m ballpark are not uncommon after the news. And yes, BBC1 has been sub 1m on occasion when something highbrow, a repeat, or just not very good has aired.


I've amended the above.

Brave decision by ITV, given their recent form.

Is it me, or does the title sound like an attempt to ape "Not Going Out"?

I'm pretty sure they won't do a combined show, especially after it didn't work on Strictly the year they did one. If they're doing 10 performances in the battle round shows in 90 mins then I guess that'll be the length they'll go for. Worth noting that the US show's first series also had group performances included in those 90 mins (actually probably closer to 80 mins) which could be shifted to the results shows, which I'd run on Sundays, probably for 45 mins with group performances, guests etc, a bit like XF's Sunday show. It'd rate better on Sundays than late on Saturdays and would benefit their schedule as a whole more by boosting Sundays. Seems a no brainer to me.