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Not entirely true. Before the Red or Black fiasco Simon Cowell was seen as someone who couldn't put a foot wrong in TV so of course there was a lot of interest surrounding his new show. And much like The Voice it was seen as the next big thing based on how well received the format had been in America.
If anything BGT had a slight advantage launching back in 2007. Terrestrial audiences (generally) are smaller now than they were then. The Voice however has had a huge amount of hype and expectations are very high for it. It is launching in very different circumstances to those in which BGT launched in back in 2007. |
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The Voice however has had a huge amount of hype and expectations are very high for it. It is launching in very different circumstances to those in which BGT launched in back in 2007.
This has been one of the most extensive campaigns since Napoleon decided that he would like to see Moscow in the wintertime. |
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I think that over-hyping of the Voice may be its downfall. People are expecting something completely different, but will see that it is just another karaoke show. Also the judges chemistry will be important, but don't know if it will work. Holly presenting it will make it feel like the X factor too, as she used to present the X-tra factor
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Just been to the TV Burp recording. Definitely the last one, as confirmed by the producers and Harry himself, who said not to take note of The Sun rumours. The final scene is closure for the show too. Best episode in years. Harry's really put effort into it.
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Just been to the TV Burp recording. Definitely the last one, as confirmed by the producers and Harry himself, who said not to take note of The Sun rumours. The final scene is closure for the show too. Best episode in years. Harry's really put effort into it.
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Re. The Weakest Link Quote:
I know it rates terribly for BBC2 these days
At least DQF should prevent this from hapenning as BBC2 daytime won't be airing 'daytime' shows like The Weakest Link anymore |
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I'm surprised, and disappointed that ITV haven't given the last ever episode more promotion. Do most people even know it won't be back after this weekend? It could have been a bit of a weapon against The Voice but it looks like it's going to slip away fairly unnoticed against The Voice and end on a bit of a whimper (ratings-wise) which is a real shame for the show and it deserved better treatment from ITV for its finale.
![]() But in all seriousness it is a shame it will probably go out fairly low key Hopefully the lead out of BGT will boost it a bit and hopefully a decent repeat audience before DOI final. I am surprised it hasn't been promoted more, especially considering it's a show which hasn't been axed by ITV, but for creativity reasons by Harry.
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Because it's buried at 2.15pm - often when BBC1 has new Escape to the Country or drama. If it was scheduled sometime when CBBC was on BBC1 I'm sure it would rate much more acceptably. |
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Dan Wootton claims a BBC source said they want >10million for The Voice's launch: Quote:
Publicly, BBC bosses insist that its flagship new Saturday night talent show The Voice doesn’t need to be an instant ratings hit, despite its eye-popping £22 million price tag. No, I dont think that will be happening. Not 10m average, peak rating maybe. 7m or 8m averages possible but 10m is too high.
But privately, it’s a different story. Insiders admit the launch tomorrow night, which goes head-to-head with the first 20 minutes of Britain’s Got Talent on ITV1, is the biggest programming risk the Beeb has taken in more than a decade. A source at the BBC tells me: ‘If it doesn’t get more than ten million viewers, as Call The Midwife did, then it’s nothing short of an expensive disaster.’ If The Voice, with judges Sir Tom Jones, will.i.am, Jessie J and The Script’s Danny O’Donoghue, emulates the major success of the U.S. version — it’s now the most popular show on TV there, beating long-term champ American Idol — the Beeb believes it could cause ‘serious damage’ to both Simon Cowell’s BGT and The X Factor. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...#ixzz1ptW938w1 |
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Harry made a slight joke on the BBC's part too. He was recording promos which will go out on Saturday night, and said 'well this is pointless considering everyone will be watching The Voice'
![]() But in all seriousness it is a shame it will probably go out fairly low key Hopefully the lead out of BGT will boost it a bit and hopefully a decent repeat audience before DOI final. I am surprised it hasn't been promoted more, especially considering it's a show which hasn't been axed by ITV, but for creativity reasons by Harry.ITV have turned this one-time niche comedian into a mainstream star, and now he's walking out on them so he can earn more elsewhere. Just like O'Grady did a few years ago. Why should ITV they waste their money, and valuable promotional airtime, on someone who has no future worth to them? |
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Dan Wootton claims a BBC source said they want >10million for The Voice's launch:
No, I dont think that will be happening. Not 10m average, peak rating maybe. 7m or 8m averages possible but 10m is too high. |
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I'm surprised, and disappointed that ITV haven't given the last ever episode more promotion. Do most people even know it won't be back after this weekend? It could have been a bit of a weapon against The Voice but it looks like it's going to slip away fairly unnoticed against The Voice and end on a bit of a whimper (ratings-wise) which is a real shame for the show and it deserved better treatment from ITV for its finale.
Not that I agree with the policy totally, TV Burp has been a big show for ITV for many years and deserves a good send-off, plus more promotion for TV Burp means less people watching The Voice and a better lead-in for BGT but there you go. |
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He's pulled that entire story out his ass.
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I expect The Voice to launch with 8.5m viewers, give or take 100,000
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I'm hoping for EastEnders to get it's highest rating of the week tonight.
I would love it to be something like 9.5million. Even some of the critcs praised it on twitter ![]() Brilliant rating for a 'one off' Wednesday night episode and i really hope Thursdays episode's rating remains consistent at least ( i Know it will be fine ) |
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Dan Wootton claims a BBC source said they want >10million for The Voice's launch:
No, I dont think that will be happening. Not 10m average, peak rating maybe. 7m or 8m averages possible but 10m is too high. ![]() I will be tuning into the Voice. It looks different and actually has a good range of Judges (at least ones that know what they are talking about) i think they will get a good enough rating |
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That guy's a joke...But never mind
![]() I will be tuning into the Voice. It looks different and actually has a good range of Judges (at least ones that know what they are talking about) i think they will get a good enough rating I think it's going to flatten BGT. |
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Not entirely true. Before the Red or Black fiasco Simon Cowell was seen as someone who couldn't put a foot wrong in TV so of course there was a lot of interest surrounding his new show. And much like The Voice it was seen as the next big thing based on how well received the format had been in America.
If anything BGT had a slight advantage launching back in 2007. Terrestrial audiences (generally) are smaller now than they were then. BGT was a replacement for the previous years "X Factor: Battle of the Stars" (one of ITV's "anti-Big Brother attempts) which was pretty average (5-6m most nights) and followed Grease is the Word which was quite a high profile flop. Talent shows were doing well but nowhere near as popular as they are now. I remember posting mainly in the BB Ratings Thread in 2006/2007 and the concensus was that BGT might be successful, but that it would be in the same kind of range as Battle of the Stars. It wasn't really perceived as a huge threat. It was only as the week progressed that it took off rather dramatically. Quote:
I think ITV's strategy is just to push BGT as much as possible and sadly TV Burp has been the casualty of the need to promote BGT as much as possible.
Not that I agree with the policy totally, TV Burp has been a big show for ITV for many years and deserves a good send-off, plus more promotion for TV Burp means less people watching The Voice and a better lead-in for BGT but there you go.
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Not entirely true. Before the Red or Black fiasco Simon Cowell was seen as someone who couldn't put a foot wrong in TV so of course there was a lot of interest surrounding his new show. And much like The Voice it was seen as the next big thing based on how well received the format had been in America.
If anything BGT had a slight advantage launching back in 2007. Terrestrial audiences (generally) are smaller now than they were then. Its success took a lot of people by surprise, including ITV (who of course stripped the entire first series across a week). It certainly didn't experience the kind of hype and intense media attention that has been surrounding The Voice for months, nor did ITV have a massive promotional campaign in the same style as that of The Voice or Red or Black?. |
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Agree. It feels fresh, and the judges have real credibility when it comes to assessing singing talent.(Tom Jones v Amanda Holden, anyone?)
I think it's going to flatten BGT. It was fresh but then of course Simon cowell got involved come up with his own show (The X factor) and talent went out of the window and it was all about the Judges and Headlines. The voice seems more fun i think and there's pretty much something for everyone in the Judges aswell. Amanda Holden i still can't understand why she's a judge anyway. Seems very Random I don't really go for all this 'Talent' TV but i will be giving The Voice ago on Saturday
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Pop Idol was good.
It was fresh but then of course Simon cowell got involved come up with his own show (The X factor) and talent went out of the window and it was all about the Judges and Headlines. The voice seems more fun i think and there's pretty much something for everyone in the Judges aswell. Amanda Holden i still can't understand why she's a judge anyway. Seems very Random I don't really go for all this 'Talent' TV but i will be giving The Voice ago on Saturday ![]() If there's one thing that BGT clearly has in its favour its the fun factor, and if the horrendously cringetastic group performance between the coaches (see YouTube for a sneak preview) is The Voice's idea of fun then I don't think BGT has much to worry about on that score. Quote:
Agree. It feels fresh, and the judges have real credibility when it comes to assessing singing talent.(Tom Jones v Amanda Holden, anyone?)
I think it's going to flatten BGT. ![]() Incidentally it was the BGT press screening today and the response has been really good from what I've read. |
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Pop Idol was good.
It was fresh but then of course Simon cowell got involved come up with his own show (The X factor) and talent went out of the window and it was all about the Judges and Headlines. If The Voice comes out particularly different then its producers will probably be disappointed. It is designed to be as similar to Idol and X Factor as possible with the hope of luring the same viewers. After 10 years of talent show success, I highly doubt that the BBC are banking on millions of people who have never watched these shows suddenly getting interested because of Tom Jones. The bet is on XF/BGT viewers being lured in purely by something which is new but effectively, the same. Hence the "piggybacking" on those shows in the media. It's a good format but it's not revolutionising television. It is to X Factor what X Factor was to Pop Idol. |
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I'll be recording BGT and More Talent then watch The Voice on Sunday BBC Three.
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"Creativity reasons"? He's leaving because both C4 and Sky are waving huge cheques in his face.
ITV have turned this one-time niche comedian into a mainstream star, and now he's walking out on them so he can earn more elsewhere. Just like O'Grady did a few years ago. Why should ITV they waste their money, and valuable promotional airtime, on someone who has no future worth to them? |
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Would that be the same ITV who waved big cheques in front of a certain Christine and Adrian, built up by the BBC, then defected to ITV - and what a disaster that proved to be. At least with Harry ITV were trying to build their own talent instead of filching it from the BBC.
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Hopefully the lead out of BGT will boost it a bit and hopefully a decent repeat audience before DOI final. I am surprised it hasn't been promoted more, especially considering it's a show which hasn't been axed by ITV, but for creativity reasons by Harry.


