|
||||||||
The Ratings Thread (Part 33) |
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#1001 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,934
|
Quote:
Why for the love of god does anyone ever watch anything live on ITV?
Loads of people who claimed to be interested in both shows expressed an intention to watch The Voice live, then start watching BGT on a 20 minute delay, with a view to skipping the ads, while a few said they'd watch on ITV+1. That might be bad news for the advertisers, especially in the early portion of the show, but it doesn't translate to being a disaster for BGT, or being beaten by The Voice. Both channels can be very pleased with what they have achieved. If you do PR for the BBC/The Voice, you can claim victory during the overlap. If you work for ITV/BGT, you can claim victory in higher viewing figures. Sensible people who understand ratings can work out they both did , very well, and the battle probably did both of them the world of good. The Voice is getting some good press, so that will help to gain extra viewers next week, but there was already a lot of hype, and some people were disappointed with how contrived it was so it will probably drop a few as well. It will take a few weeks to know for sure how big a success it's going to be, but it is looking very promising for the BBC. BGT will continue to be very successful. |
|
|
|
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
|
|
|
#1002 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 37,641
|
Quote:
Odd then that some on DS were remarking upon the lack of promotion and hype.
|
|
|
|
|
#1003 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 37,641
|
They both did will. The press (and a few on here) will spin that clash but most of us suspected TV would win by virtue of the fact it had already been on for 60 minutes!
|
|
|
|
|
#1004 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 818
|
Quote:
it was the voices FIRST Show....ffs! what will you say next week if the voices ratings will fall? because i do think it will.... people just tuning into see what its all about.. its exactly the same as X FACTOR just with swinging seats.. nothing really differerent imo. why would the papers be talking about the voice... they were only on at the same time for 20mins!!!!... hardly a ratings victory, we'll soon see next few weeks if the voice can hold onto there 8million.. hardly doubt it
![]() The Voice is on a two year deal with the BBC. I suspect it won't be really big until series two. Then ITV will probably snatch it as Cowell has already hinted he is going to end X Factor UK. |
|
|
|
|
#1005 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Posts: 1,487
|
Quote:
Odd then that some on DS were remarking upon the lack of promotion and hype.
|
|
|
|
|
#1006 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 68,698
|
Quote:
Is this a joke? Perhaps if they only bought their televisions yesterday...
See also post above this one! So if the show had a great deal of promotion and hype, the maybe it either could have done with more, or the promotion was not as well-placed or targeted as it could have been. |
|
|
|
|
#1007 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Taedet animam meam vitae
Posts: 40,368
|
Quote:
if itv had no adverts you would be paying alot more for your tv licence and that would just make people MOAN more!. cant win
![]() |
|
|
|
|
#1008 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8,397
|
To be fair to bgt, it is winning the YouTube battle at the moment. 165k views for their most watched audition compared to 14k for The Voice UK. Notching up as many youtube hits as possible can be important for generating buzz and increasing ratings so BGTs doing well there.
|
|
|
|
|
#1009 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,794
|
Tbh i only saw the BGT trailer once and TV trailer twice..however i do tend to fast foward through most adverts and don't really watch the type of shows where guests go on to promote things
|
|
|
|
|
#1010 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,924
|
Impressive for Both, but the most shocking thing for me is that C4 have launched yet another series of Million Pound Drop
![]()
|
|
|
|
|
#1011 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 37,641
|
Quote:
No, I kid you not, some apparently had not caught any of the teasers or promos.
See also post above this one! So if the show had a great deal of promotion and hype, the maybe it either could have done with more, or the promotion was not as well-placed or targeted as it could have been. I'm sure there are a few who missed it, that's often the way, but I think the vast majority were well aware of the show before it aired. From what I'd seen and heard, BBC1 and Radio 1 at the very least were well covered. |
|
|
|
|
#1012 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ghosts Forge
Posts: 38,995
|
Impressive ratings for both BBC and ITV.
|
|
|
|
|
#1013 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8,397
|
The Voice has the first laugh as Britain's Got Talent ratings dip http://gu.com/p/36dnb/tf
Alex Graham, chief executive of The Voice's production company, Wall to Wall, tweeted: "Lucky overlap not bigger, eh? Well - lucky for BGT" |
|
|
|
|
#1014 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,066
|
The Voice seems to be more about some sort of anti-Cowell protest than a show in it's own right going by all the comments before, during & now after, both from people involved in the show and people not involved.
Had it aired in January, I do wonder what angle people would have taken. |
|
|
|
|
#1015 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 68,698
|
Quote:
To be fair, 8m+ viewers tuned in! That doesn't usually happen by accident.
I'm sure there are a few who missed it, that's often the way, but I think the vast majority were well aware of the show before it aired. From what I'd seen and heard, BBC1 and Radio 1 at the very least were well covered. Of course, some of those ratings will be people watching to see what the new programme was like (just as they might do for any new programme), so the real killer will be what the ratings are over the next few weeks |
|
|
|
|
#1016 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cymru
Posts: 12,702
|
Quote:
Score draw, both sides will be pleased.
End of discussion. The question now is which show has the momentum moving forward - I'd expect BGT to dip and The Voice to rise really so the tables could turn in the next few weeks, but they'll be pretty much neck and neck throughout. Quote:
The Voice has the first laugh as Britain's Got Talent ratings dip http://gu.com/p/36dnb/tf
Alex Graham, chief executive of The Voice's production company, Wall to Wall, tweeted: "Lucky overlap not bigger, eh? Well - lucky for BGT" I think Take Me Out finishes in a couple of weeks so I wonder if ITV may move BGT clear of The Voice from week 4 onwards. |
|
|
|
#1017 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 12,683
|
Quote:
BBC News and The Metro confirm The Voice won head to head. The Voice is coming off very well from this by winning the clash. ITV have committed PR suicide by putting BGT 20mins head to head against The Voice, what its meant is that all the newspapers are talking about The Voice winning head to head and saying how well that did, even though BGT had more viewers overall.
This was my main concern (from ITV's perspective) about the clash. Unless The Voice absolutely bombed out of the gate there was no way this was going to be spun as anything but bad for ITV and Britain's Got Talent because The Voice was always likely to win head-to-head given that it got an hour head start. Although ITV might want to return to the history books. I have vague memories of the debut of Fame Academy having an overlap with Pop Idol and Fame Academy winning that. We all know how that ultimately ended... Quote:
it was the voices FIRST Show....ffs! what will you say next week if the voices ratings will fall? because i do think it will.... people just tuning into see what its all about.. its exactly the same as X FACTOR just with swinging seats.. nothing really differerent imo. why would the papers be talking about the voice... they were only on at the same time for 20mins!!!!... hardly a ratings victory, we'll soon see next few weeks if the voice can hold onto there 8million.. hardly doubt it
![]() As for the clash. The papers are going to talk about it and they're going to talk about the fact The Voice won. That's just how they work. Quote:
The Voice is on a two year deal with the BBC. I suspect it won't be really big until series two. Then ITV will probably snatch it as Cowell has already hinted he is going to end X Factor UK.
Quote:
The Voice has the first laugh as Britain's Got Talent ratings dip http://gu.com/p/36dnb/tf
ITV and SyCo need to do something to stop these stories in their tracks because this has the very real possibility of snowballing into a PR disaster for them. Especially if The Voice holds up (or worse yet grows) in week two. |
|
|
|
|
#1018 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8,397
|
Quote:
Exactly the kind of stories I predicted we'd be seeing.
ITV and SyCo need to do something to stop these stories in their tracks because this has the very real possibility of snowballing into a PR disaster for them. Especially if The Voice holds up (or worse yet grows) in week two. .
|
|
|
|
|
#1019 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 17,742
|
Quote:
Wow, what a start for The Voice
. BBC sources confirm its the biggest launch for one of their entertainment shows in a decade. It grew its audience substantially throughout the show. It not only beat BGT, but thrashed it by 3 million viewers (when head to head). Its won all the polls about which show was the best last night, by a landslade. Its won the critics and the British public over. Its a huge new show for the BBC and who wants to bet against it going up next week? This is the start of the end for BGT and XFactor, all the newspapers will be talking about The Voices ratings victory (when head to head) tomorrow.![]() 2 words before you get to believe that you can walk on water and spin your way to long term ratings glory - Royal Bodyguard ![]() As for comparing at 8.15 when ITV was on a commercial break - well thats just a bit pathetic. Nice to see ITV PR being a bit more grown up today
|
|
|
|
|
#1020 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 37,641
|
Quote:
True, but that does not automatically mean that it got it from "pure hype and promotion" (a phrase that to me indicates a lack of substance, or a lack of real interest).
Of course, some of those ratings will be people watching to see what the new programme was like (just as they might do for any new programme), so the real killer will be what the ratings are over the next few weeks I can't say the show grabbed me instantly but I can certainly see why it would have an audience. I fully expect The Voice to grow next week, particularly if the BBC take full advantage of this ratings win and spin it out for the next week. It may well prompt people who didn't bother with it last night to tune in. Conversely with the overlap and a significantly reduced run time for BGT next week I wouldn't be surprised if that fell. That's not say I don't think BGT didn't do well last night as it did, but it didn't win the head to head and unfortunately that's what the media will focus on. |
|
|
|
|
#1021 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,066
|
It is funny how the tabloids like to give TXF/BGT a kicking at the slightest scandal. If these shows did die off and be axed, what would the same tabloids fill their front pages with week after week.
You didn't get front page stories from the Saturday night schedule of the 1990s I don't think. |
|
|
|
|
#1022 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 37,641
|
Quote:
It is funny how the tabloids like to give TXF/BGT a kicking at the slightest scandal. If these shows did die off and be axed, what would the same tabloids fill their front pages with week after week.
![]()
|
|
|
|
|
#1023 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,066
|
Quote:
The Voice.
![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
|
#1024 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 37,641
|
Quote:
Has there actually been any tabloid headlines surrounding The Voice that hasn't been it's ratings war with BGT/TXF/Cowell/ITV. If it aired in January and been head to head with Take Me Out & Jonathan Ross or something equally normal, what would the tabloids run with on Monday morning?
|
|
|
|
|
#1025 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,144
|
Quote:
The Voice seems to be more about some sort of anti-Cowell protest than a show in it's own right going by all the comments before, during & now after, both from people involved in the show and people not involved.
Cowell made it the anti-cowell show. His comments have been a walking disaster as now the media will blame the BGT ratings on The Voice. This is DESPITE both shows doing well, and being the ratings I expected. I actually really enjoyed last night. The Voice first, BGT second, then Million Pound Drop. Good proper Saturday night! |
|
![]() |
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 04:26.








