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Old 26-03-2012, 20:16
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Was there any news on 16-34 ratings for The Voice and BGT - would be interested to see the breakdowns.
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Old 26-03-2012, 20:19
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I'd suggest that its the success of The Walking Dead that has done Mad Men no harm. It wouldn't have returned this strongly if AMC hadn't been able to promote it heavily during that. And by the same token Breaking Bad probably wouldn't have seen the growth it did last year if it weren't for the exposure Walking Dead gave the entire network.

On the subject of The Killing. That's a tricky one to predict. I don't think there's going to be the mass desertion of viewers that some do. At least not from the get go. The trouble is going to be getting people to stick with it for the entire season again and to do that they're going to need a great opener and its a show that's yet to produce a great episode. What I find interesting is that they aren't using Mad Men as a lead-in for The Killing. That speaks volumes.
I've alway wondered why Mad Men wasn't scheduled at 9pm with The Killing at 10pm, the last time AMC had a 9pm show before Mad Men, it got cancelled! I do think they'll resolve the Rosie Larson murder this season so that if it does not return for another season, they'll have wrap up the story. Both the leads have big films coming up so they could renew it and centre around a new case.

Mad Men I think they're planning to end in two years but I think with The Walking Dead being so big, AMC isn't going too worry too much and I imagine they're developing new shows at the moment.

Showtime is stepping in on Sundays on April 8th with Nurse Jackie, Big C and The Borgias, I do wonder whether this decision was influenced by the fact that they were not doing well on Mondays and also comedies would serve as a good alternative to GoT.

Starz has Magic City on April 6th but whether it'll be successful remains to be seen, looks good though.
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Old 26-03-2012, 20:33
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She's got quite the track record. A cancellation trifecta!

Bonekickers was a parody and the only people that didn't realise were those that made it!
It was the BBC's big flop of 2008, an expensive show that sounded good on paper( a cross between archaelogy and sci fi), but which descended into a farce and didn't make sense.
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Old 26-03-2012, 20:41
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Was there any news on 16-34 ratings for The Voice and BGT - would be interested to see the breakdowns.
rzt posted them earlier - 1.76 v 2.06

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Old 26-03-2012, 20:42
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I'd stick the next run of live episodes on at 8pm too - having double episodes at 4pm and 8pm for a week would cut down on costs too. Indeed I think Million Pound Drop has now exhausted it's weekend slot and although competitive I think it would work better airing in 1-2 week stints with episodes at 5pm and 9/10pm.
Million Pound Drop absolutely needs to go back to the stripped format it launched with. A one or two week run stripped across the week at 9 or 10 is perfect for it. Or it would be if C4 could resist the urge to bring it back every other week. It also makes it feel much more like a big event rather than being stranded in a dead weekend slot.

I've alway wondered why Mad Men wasn't scheduled at 9pm with The Killing at 10pm, the last time AMC had a 9pm show before Mad Men, it got cancelled! I do think they'll resolve the Rosie Larson murder this season so that if it does not return for another season, they'll have wrap up the story. Both the leads have big films coming up so they could renew it and centre around a new case.
The shows producers have been stressing that they intend to solve the shows central mysteries by the end of the second season. Mainly that seems to be a counter to the mountain of negative press they got for the season one finale. Its actually amazing to consider how much press a show that was struggling to break 2 million viewers live produced.

Mad Men I think they're planning to end in two years but I think with The Walking Dead being so big, AMC isn't going too worry too much and I imagine they're developing new shows at the moment.
I know this is far from a popular opinion but AMC should have let Mad Men die with its fourth season or at least let it be known that they were willing to do that. The deal they signed to keep a poorly rated show alive was staggeringly bad business. They've tied far too much money up with Mad Men at this point and its had a negative impact not only on their development slate (which appears to have becoming worryingly stalled) but also their other shows.

Starz has Magic City on April 6th but whether it'll be successful remains to be seen, looks good though.
And already renewed for a second season so they'll be hoping it does well. I still think Starz need to sit down and really focus on creating a clearer identity for themselves and their original content because its a bit all over the place at the moment and hard to pin down. Given the relative success of Spartacus I think their best bet might be to hone in on the more over the top almost comic book come to life dramas. But it seems like they're trying to find something that will get them some Emmy love.
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Old 26-03-2012, 21:16
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Just reading up on Twitter about tonight's Panorama. Sounds really interesting, on the ITV Digital collapse and Murdoch's alleged involvement in it.

Can't wait for this on iPlayer later.
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Old 26-03-2012, 21:25
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I've noticed that the 7am morning repeat of Cleverdicks on Sky Atlantic has been dropped and replaced with a Seinfeld double bill (it musn't have been rating well against Kate and Dan and Bill and Susanna). However the lunchtime and evening episodes remain in the usual slots.

Am I seeing a similar scenario to Shortland Street on Living here and Out of the Blue on Fiver, where because of poor ratings, one showing was axed, and then another moved then axed, and it just had one solitary showing a day afterwards?

Because, although the other 2 showings of Cleverdicks are safe for now, depending on ratings it'll only be a matter of time before Sky Atlantic put something like Star Trek: The Next Generation at 7pm and just air Cleverdicks at lunchtime, therefore cutting it to 1 airing a day.
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Old 26-03-2012, 21:28
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(re "gassing the monkey") Is that a euphemism?


Someone best tell ITV if it is. They thought it was an inspired programme title and have commissioned a 10 part series for Tuesday nights....

Actually they should have aired Titanic on Tuesdays, given their propensity for airing doomed shows on that night with suitably appropriate titles!

Given the slightly underwhelming overnight figure, I wonder if folk simply didn't realise it was back on last week?

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Old 26-03-2012, 21:41
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And already renewed for a second season so they'll be hoping it does well. I still think Starz need to sit down and really focus on creating a clearer identity for themselves and their original content because its a bit all over the place at the moment and hard to pin down. Given the relative success of Spartacus I think their best bet might be to hone in on the more over the top almost comic book come to life dramas. But it seems like they're trying to find something that will get them some Emmy love.
I find renewing a series for a second series before it even debut is incredibly risky, I know Starz has done before with Spartacus and Boss but if the show is a ratings flop, you're kind of stuck.

Starz has Noir coming up which is by the producers of Spartacus, they seem to be trying to find the balance between glossy, over the top with sprinklings of nudity, sex and violence with critical acclaimed shows like Boss. Both HBO and Showtime have these sort of shows although HBO seems to go towards the critical darling rather than mainstream shows,
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Old 26-03-2012, 21:47
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Just noticed, that with the Voice seeming to be joining Strictly as the BBC's flagship Saturday Night Show, how funny it is that their American counterparts face each other from 8-10 on Monday Nights...
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Old 26-03-2012, 21:56
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'My Murder' (BBC Three) has been the number 1 trend on Twitter for the last hour, and it's very good, really well made.

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Old 26-03-2012, 22:21
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How did the Panorama about honour killings do last night on BBC News 24? I found it excellent viewing.
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Old 26-03-2012, 22:25
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Have we actually had a ratings round up today, I can't seem to find it?
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Old 26-03-2012, 22:30
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They twisted Noel's arm then! He was very anti the idea of celeb specials at the beginning. Sounds like a potentially good lineup though. And if Noel will be playing, who will be presenting?
Olly Murs according to The Sun. Seems rather fitting with him being an ex-contestant who has gone on to be famous (admittedly that's nothing to do with the show though given that he only won 10p!).

Noel's game will be the 2000th show and is separate from the other 8 shows apparently. I just hope they don't put it against Britain's Got Talent or The Voice.
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Old 26-03-2012, 22:37
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Sunday 25th March 2012
BBC One
19:00 - Countryfile: 4.77m (21.4%)
20:00 - Antiques Roadshow: 5.62m (22.0%)
21:00 - Upstairs Downstairs: 4.45m (17.2%)

BBC Two
20:00 - Top Gear: 1.43m (5.6%)
21:00 - In Orbit: How Satellites Rule Our World: 1.47m (5.7%)

ITV1
18:50 - Dancing on Ice: 7.06m (30.1%)
* +1: 325k (1.3%)
21:00 - Titanic: 6.89m (26.6%)
* +1: 476k (2.7%)

Channel 4
17:50 - FILM: Avatar: 2.61m (12.4%)
* +1: 622k (2.5%)
21:00 - Homeland: 2.05m (7.9%)
* +1: 507k (2.8%)

Channel 5
20:00 - Battle of Britain: The Lost Evidence: 924k (3.6%)
21:00 - FILM: Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines: 1.03m (4.8%)

Multichannel ratings - http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...7-million.html

Sources: DS. Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary.
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Old 26-03-2012, 23:02
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Sunday 25th March 2012
BBC One
19:00 - Countryfile: 4.77m (21.4%)
20:00 - Antiques Roadshow: 5.62m (22.0%)
Must be CF's lowest rating in ages - obviously due to the heatwave and people enjoying their first evening of extended daylight, although the Avatar premiere won't have helped.

AR, I suppose, held up well in the circumstances and given the DOI Final.
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Old 26-03-2012, 23:04
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Itv's Agenda doesnt have any adverts, how do they afford to make this programming without showing adverts?
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Old 26-03-2012, 23:04
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Must be CF's lowest rating in ages - obviously due to the heatwave and people enjoying their first evening of extended daylight, although the Avatar premiere won't have helped.
Quite an overlaping audience, Avatar and Countryfile.

Anyone know how TV Burp or Perspectives did?
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Old 26-03-2012, 23:06
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Sky Sports' Monday Night Football has (as of tonight) been extended to 11pm, basically to make more use of pundit Gary Neville where viewers ask him questions and he gets extra time for analysis.

Gary Neville is the best thing to happen to football on the telly this season (and last Summer, I NEVER thought I would be saying that).
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Old 26-03-2012, 23:06
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Itv's Agenda doesnt have any adverts, how do they afford to make this programming without showing adverts?
The programme is no doubt paid for from the Cowell/soap profits. It wouldn't make much money wise anyway.
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Old 26-03-2012, 23:07
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Sky Sports' Monday Night Football has (as of tonight) been extended to 11pm, basically to make more use of pundit Gary Neville where viewers ask him questions and he gets extra time for analysis.

Gary Neville is the best thing to happen to football on the telly this season (and last Summer, I NEVER thought I would be saying that).
Just like on the pitch, Manchester United have taken over where Liverpool used to dominate.
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Old 26-03-2012, 23:13
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Itv's Agenda doesnt have any adverts, how do they afford to make this programming without showing adverts?
By putting the ads in more profitable programming. ITV, C4 and Five can only show 40 minutes of ads between 6pm and 11pm - and generally speaking ITV try and show theirs between 6.55pm and 10pm.
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Old 26-03-2012, 23:18
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Quite an overlaping audience, Avatar and Countryfile.


CF is one of the most popular programmes on telly. The idea that it's nursing home fodder is a nonsense, one only needs to watch the programme to see it is pitched more at an upmarket ABC1 demographic.

I suspect you have never watched CF, of course...

As for tonight, I can see that One Night is pretty third-rate so far, but does BBC1 have such an embarrassment of primetime riches that they can dump this in a graveyard slot? With Paxman plumbing the sub 3m depths in the flagship slot, could this have really done any worse?
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Old 26-03-2012, 23:22
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Must be CF's lowest rating in ages - obviously due to the heatwave and people enjoying their first evening of extended daylight, although the Avatar premiere won't have helped.

AR, I suppose, held up well in the circumstances and given the DOI Final.
Agreed, countryfile must be down nearly 2 million. No-one seems to have picked up on this. Extended daylight is good. Hopefully it will have the same effect on other shows, people should be out enjoying it instead of watching TV.
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Old 26-03-2012, 23:29
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Agreed, countryfile must be down nearly 2 million. No-one seems to have picked up on this. Extended daylight is good. Hopefully it will have the same effect on other shows, people should be out enjoying it instead of watching TV.
I think Countryfile's drop was more to do with the Avatar premiere. That's because its share was down to 21% last night compared to 26% in previous weeks. If it had got the usual 26% which it normally does, even in yesterday's heat, it'd have got 5.8m in the 7pm hour - similar to previous weeks. Something on another channel dented its share last night, I'm thinking it must've been Avatar.
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