The Ratings Thread (Part 33)

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Georged123

28-03-2012

Good start for The Syndicate.

I feared it could be under 4m given the lack of promotion and the good weather hitting everything else but 5.2m is very good indeed, especially as its well up on its Holby lead-in.

RobbieSykes123

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Too expensive. Pretty soon the BBC will spend its £3BILLION a year on just 6 Nations, The Voice, Wimbledon at its own management ”

Keep taking the tablets....

Or is it the heat getting to you?

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Yep, sure.

Dancing on Ice Final region-by-region:

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Total....... 7.02m 29.8% Border...... 0.104m 35.4% East of Eng 0.480m 26.7% London.... 0.978m 24.3% Midlands 0.942m 27.1% North East 0.396m 33.1% North West 0.872m 33.8% Scotland 0.608m 33.4% South West 0.230m 33.4% South & SE 0.743m 29.8% Ulster....... 0.216m 35.7% Wales....... 0.380m 29.7% West........ 0.221m 26.6% Yorkshire 0.850m 34.4%

Incidentally, the average age of BGT's audience on Saturday was 42. Average age for The Voice UK's audience was 45.”

Fascinating reading. No surprise to see DOI strongest in the northern heartlands. So is ASDA.

But even then, failing to break 36% anywhere, even in Northern Ireland!

Even a blank screen on UTV would expect a 35%+ share I would have thought.

The Voice did oddly well for the BBC in unexpected places - for a BBC1 show to get 40%+ in Ulster is astonishing. I bet BBC1NI highlights of George Best shagging Miss World whilst downing a crate of Guinness wouldn't have got 40% in NI back in the day....

grimshaw

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by rzt:
“

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The Voice UK Britain's Got Talent Total......... 8.43m 37.6%..... 9.30m 38.7% Border...... 0.084m 37.3%... 0.126m 55.8% East of Eng 0.597m 34.3%... 0.676m 37.3% London.... 1.320m 33.8%... 1.640m 37.4% Midlands.. 1.090m 34.3%... 1.310m 38.2% North East 0.446m 37.4%... 0.495m 42.3% North West 1.010m 40.0%... 1.180m 43.5% Scotland... 0.776m 42.6%... 0.653m 34.4% South West 0.219m 32.6%... 0.292m 41.3% South & SE 0.832m 36.7%... 0.865m 36.8% Ulster........ 0.268m 41.9%... 0.341m 47.7% Wales........ 0.548m 44.6%... 0.527m 38.8% West........ 0.317m 46.7%... 0.261m 36.1% Yorkshire.. 0.914m 38.0%... 0.936m 37.3%

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I suspect the poor Scottish rating for BGT is maybe down to the over-bearing BRITISH branding of it all. Which btw means 'english'

Not that thats a problem, but its just a different culture to Scotland generally. I doubt the Cowell/judges general 'were better than you' presentation helps tbh. Be interesting to see what the Lottery Quiz did alongside it regionally!

Certainly I'd say BGT is an English brand as oppose to the British they shout about (its still getting +30% in the other nations - but generally a 'got talent' more specific to them would do much better), explained by the low %%% for it in the other regions.

RobbieSykes123

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by grimshaw:
“I suspect the poor Scottish rating for BGT is maybe down to the over-bearing BRITISH branding of it all. Which btw means 'english' .”

What about "The Voice UK"?

Dancc

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I always figured he would get a Channel 5 show after Big Brother.”

Ah, so peddling speculation as fact. Thanks for clearing that one up for us.

The last time we spoke you were literally demanding confirmation about something or other, how times change!

Charnham

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Ah, so peddling speculation as fact. Thanks for clearing that one up for us.

The last time we spoke you were literally demanding confirmation about something or other, how times change!”

you dont think your being a tad over sensitive do you? one little joke, and suddenly its like ive said that Channel 5 is the worst TV channel ever to hear, and that I hope it gets shut down.

anyways if STV is rejecting BGT, I find the lure of an independent Scotland more and more alluring by the day,

kwynne42

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by Charnham:
“but X-Factor was asking him to censor his musical & creative geninus, and as an artist, he could never do that.

On C5 however, he is making TV shows, not music, really who else is going to give him a TV show? Sky Living?”

Why should anyone give this right herbert a job least of all in TV, no one owes him a living.

rzt

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“It would be interesting to see how one of the BBC Sunday night staples do by region - Countryfile or Antiques Roadshow?”

Countryfile and Antiques Roadshow region-by-region:

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	         Countryfile		Antiques Roadshow	
Total......	4.77m	21.4%		5.62m	22.0%

Border......	0.075m	25.3%		0.035m	11.7%
East of Eng	0.372m	21.7%		0.429m	22.1%
London....	0.589m	15.7%		0.824m	18.5%
Midlands	0.827m	25.3%		0.893m	23.5%
North East	0.256m	22.2%		0.267m	21.0%
North West	0.457m	19.3%		0.612m	21.5%
Scotland	0.343m	19.9%		0.375m	19.2%
South West	0.138m	20.6%		0.188m	26.1%
South & SE	0.702m	29.7%		0.734m	27.3%
Ulster.......	0.086m	15.5%		0.092m	13.6%
Wales.......	0.315m	25.8%		0.319m	23.3%
West........	0.195m	24.5%		0.229m	25.8%
Yorkshire	0.411m	17.3%		0.553m	20.9%

GeorgeS

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by grimshaw:
“I suspect the poor Scottish rating for BGT is maybe down to the over-bearing BRITISH branding of it all. Which btw means 'english' ”

If it isnt a problem in UTV land it wont be in STV land.

I'd have thought the Susan Boyle effect should have lifted BGT in STV land. Maybe being Scottish, they were checking their lottery numbers on the BBC? Although it would help if they bought tickets first........

Charnham

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Why should anyone give this right herbert a job least of all in TV, no one owes him a living.”

didnt stop Channel 5 offering him Big Brother did it?

GeorgeS

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Countryfile and Antiques Roadshow region-by-region:

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Countryfile Antiques Roadshow Total...... 4.77m 21.4% 5.62m 22.0% Border...... 0.075m 25.3% 0.035m 11.7% East of Eng 0.372m 21.7% 0.429m 22.1% London.... 0.589m 15.7% 0.824m 18.5% Midlands 0.827m 25.3% 0.893m 23.5% North East 0.256m 22.2% 0.267m 21.0% North West 0.457m 19.3% 0.612m 21.5% Scotland 0.343m 19.9% 0.375m 19.2% South West 0.138m 20.6% 0.188m 26.1% South & SE 0.702m 29.7% 0.734m 27.3% Ulster....... 0.086m 15.5% 0.092m 13.6% Wales....... 0.315m 25.8% 0.319m 23.3% West........ 0.195m 24.5% 0.229m 25.8% Yorkshire 0.411m 17.3% 0.553m 20.9%

”

Thanks - interesting that its complementary scheduling is some places [Midlands] yet totally the opposite in Border land where they race to the remote as soon as Countryfile ends

AlexiR

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by ftv:
“And Sky Atlantic started with such a high profile and lots of promotion from Sky. I thought it was supposed to be a sort of UK version of HBO - what happened ?”

The Sky Atlantic schedule happened. It turns out that despite owning the rights to a ridiculous number of shows and films (many of which are fantastic) Sky were completely incapable of creating an inspiring or interesting schedule for Atlantic and thus people lost interest very quickly. It doesn't help that at this point absolutely nobody seems to have any idea what the point of Sky Atlantic is any more.

Honestly I think they'd be better off either admitting defeat and just folding the Atlantic content into Sky1's schedule (and Sky Movies for some of the HBO films/mini-series) or going for a full scale relaunch of the channel and opening it up to non-Sky subscribers as the excuse for said relaunch. That would give them the chance to redefine the channel and take another look at the schedule.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Solid rating for a pretty solid, "Kay Mellor-by-numbers" working class drama.”

The Syndicate was infinitely better than I expected it to be. Its not going to win any prizes for originality admittedly but it could have been a lot worse.

Quote:
“One Night, by contrast, was much improved on ep1. I can't imagine why BBC1 has dumped this in a graveyard slot, getting a pathetic opening night 1.5m (and probably less last night) when the flagship slots so far this week have been taken by Paxman's 2.4m-rated Empire and dull procedurals like The Syndicate.

Does anyone comprehend BBC1's logic on this?”

I'd imagine the fact that its a stripped drama has been a major stumbling block to scheduling One Day (and I think it would have bombed as a weekly series). They just haven't really had a free week in which to schedule One Day and with the likes of The Apprentice and Silent Witness now back on the schedule they won't for a while. Maybe they should have held off on it until the summer when they're going to have a couple of mostly empty weeks between all the sport...

Of course I suspect if they'd sat on it until the summer people would have just assumed it was awful and they were hoping to bury it. Although people have assumed that with the current slot anyway.

Originally Posted by Ads:
“It will be interesting to see how much Mad Men goes up by in the officials.

I know overnight ratings are usually a lot less than the total audience for Sky Atlantic show, but even still, I am sure they would have hoped for more than what they got last night.”

Given the push that was made with the retro ads I think its pretty clear that Sky were hoping for a larger than average live audience for Mad Men and it hasn't really delivered.

But in the wake of yet another set of disappointing figures for Atlantic the question I'm left wondering is, is the channel worth it? Is the presence of Sky Atlantic really driving subscriptions to such a degree that its worth not just airing things like Mad Men and Game of Thrones on Sky1 where they'd undoubtedly get bigger over nights and possibly bigger time shifts as well.

Has anyone here, who wasn't already a subscriber, been compelled to join Sky because of Sky Atlantic?

grimshaw

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“What about "The Voice UK"? ”

'UK' is fine, even the brand Britain's Got Talent is fine. I just feel the content is the problem, and general snobbishness of the show (its not as bad now, but for a long time I didn't watch it and hated any clip I saw)

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“If it isnt a problem in UTV land it wont be in STV land.

I'd have thought the Susan Boyle effect should have lifted BGT in STV land. Maybe being Scottish, they were checking their lottery numbers on the BBC? Although it would help if they bought tickets first........”

Subo...meh I think at the time its likely. But I wonder if generally BGT has just never taken off in Scotland in the way it has in the rest of the UK? Afterall it didn't start off like The Voice with tremendous figures. Doesn't help the panel originally was Cowell, Holden and Piers ****ing Morgan really.

Also she got a tough time. And a few stories about her in the papers were of questionable taste and also seemed to ignore her humour.

I just don't see any other reason. Not like DoI did badly in Scotland so its not like STV's problems go slightly further. I think its likely the show just never took off as much in Scotland as elsewhere. Mostly down to the branding which was and always has been a bit tacky/cliched.

[Just to add its not that Scotland is up itself to anything, just we'd probably rather watch 'Scotlands NOT got Talent'

]

rzt

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by grimshaw:
“Be interesting to see what the Lottery Quiz did alongside it regionally!”

National Lottery: In It To Win It region-by-region:

Code:

Total.......	4.20m	17.6%

Border......	0.037m	14.4%
East of Eng	0.331m	18.5%
London.....	0.534m	12.2%
Midlands	0.597m	17.5%
North East	0.182m	16.0%
North West	0.493m	18.3%
Scotland	0.425m	22.7%
South West	0.126m	17.8%
South & SE	0.484m	20.8%
Ulster.......	0.117m	16.4%
Wales.......	0.294m	21.5%
West........	0.121m	16.8%
Yorkshire	0.465m	18.8%

Viewers in Scotland and Wales seem to like The National Lottery. People in London aren't so keen on it though.

Dancc

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by Charnham:
“didnt stop Channel 5 offering him Big Brother did it?”

Could have been worse, they could have put a bunch of racist bullies in instead.

The worst you could accuse Frankie of apart from his crimes against music, is holding a very shallow view of women. I doubt anybody watching his shambolic performances on Big Brother would see him as any sort of role model for this, nor would it have endeared him to any ladies with half a brain watching.

But it did provide some laughs watching hapless Frankie and his partner in crime TOWIE Kirk trying to impress the ladies of the house and failing miserably. They both came out of it looking like morons on national TV and so, if anything, it showed that that kind of attitude won't get you very far in life. I think that's a positive message to send out to the (mostly) young people watching.

Charnham

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“if anything, it showed that that kind of attitude won't get you very far in life. I think that's a positive message to send out to the (mostly) young people watching.”

just so you know, I wasnt asking you to defend Channel 5s casting of Frankie in BB.

You guys did get that post #1465, was good clean tongue in check humour right?

grimshaw

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by rzt:
“National Lottery: In It To Win It region-by-region:

Code:

Total....... 4.20m 17.6% Border...... 0.037m 14.4% East of Eng 0.331m 18.5% London..... 0.534m 12.2% Midlands 0.597m 17.5% North East 0.182m 16.0% North West 0.493m 18.3% Scotland 0.425m 22.7% South West 0.126m 17.8% South & SE 0.484m 20.8% Ulster....... 0.117m 16.4% Wales....... 0.294m 21.5% West........ 0.121m 16.8% Yorkshire 0.465m 18.8%

Viewers in Scotland and Wales seem to like The National Lottery. People in London aren't so keen on it though.”

Thanks for that! Strange to see just so much regional variance. But quite interesting!

RobbieSykes123

28-03-2012

Would be interesting to see how the regional spending on lotto tickets correlates to the audience breakdown for the draws. (Don't worry - I don;t expect you to have those stats to hand...

)

I sense that poor parts of the country probably buy disproprtionately more tickets than affluent bits...

ftv

28-03-2012

I suppose the fact it's made in Glasgow has little to do with that ?

davey_wavey

28-03-2012

The Syndicate is in line with what other BBC1 Tuesday night dramas have been getting lately. It's got an identical figure to what Prisoners Wives debuted with. It'll be interesting to see if it drops like PW did or stays consistent over its run.

Holby City seems to have a low figure and an unusually low share.

Two of my favourite programmes on tonight..Waterloo Road

and the Apprentice

. I think the nice weather could dent WR significantly tonight. I think it'll be down in the low 4s. I suspect the Apprentice will stay in the mid 6s or may rise slightly from last week towards the 7m mark. It's great to see it doing so well on iPlayer

JCR

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by derek500:
“http://shareofvoice.wordpress.com/20...tic-m-viewers/

Strange adding the two figures together.

Just shows how few viewers you need to trend worldwide on Twitter!!”

I've said this before, but you can trend worldwide with less than 2000 tweets at certain parts of the day; what trends isn't what is most popular, but what people are suddenly talking about when they weren't before.

There was a funny one last Sunday when TNA wrestling played up on a live USA broadcast that they were number one trending in the UK. There was no legal way to watch that show live in the UK so it's reasonable to assume those tweeting were all watching illicit streams. TNA presumably knew this, but wanted to brag about twitter anyway. Bizarre.

sn_22

28-03-2012

Decent start for The Syndicate, much in line with how other Tuesday dramas have been rating. Won't have been helped by what seems like a poor figure for Holby City - amidst all the chatter about EE, that show has really been putting in some sub-par numbers of late.

Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Unfortunately the show is extremely repetitive. Once you've seen a couple of episodes of Gypsy Weddings you've really seen them all. The show just seems to tread over old ground without offering anything particularly new. They got great mileage out of it for one series but surely most people saw this coming? It did seem to run out of steam quite quickly.”

Makes sense, I suppose. It was a one-off before it became a series, wasn't it?

In any case, it certainly hasn't become "Channel 4's Top Gear" in ratings terms, like I may have commented last year... In fact, it makes you appreciate what a job TG does for BBC2: 14 weeks a year, way out-rating everything else on the channel, and delivering audiences to the programmes that follow. For the best part of 10 years and still rolling.

Score

28-03-2012

Looks like The Voice/BGT overlap remains for 7th April, as the BBC Media Centre has confirmed TVUK for 19:00-20:20 whilst BGT is down for 20:00 on the ITV Press Centre. How ridiculous. I notice BGT is down as 75 mins again that night so I suppose that might be the reason for it but it does seem stupid that they've left it. They've pushed LemonAid back to 18:15 though (with You've Been Framed and Best of TV Burp in the 7pm hour) so at least that'll avoid The Voice.

Charnham

28-03-2012

what is More 4 doing with The DailyShow, seems to have been moved to the midnight hour, from 11pm, the show just keeps getting later and later, its very worrying.

also is anyone else worried that E4 will run out of The Cleveland Show episodes?

Pizzatheaction

28-03-2012

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Wasn't that moved because they had a football match on the Thursday?”

Yep, giving them the perfect opportunity to save an episode for Easter Sunday, if they so wished.

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