Originally Posted by ftv:
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Ricky Gervais to play a retirement home worker in a new C4 comedy Derek.”
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Ricky Gervais to play a retirement home worker in a new C4 comedy Derek.”
Very old news!! Channel 4, April 12 at 10pm.
The Ratings Thread (Part 33)
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Originally Posted by ftv:
“Presumably the main roles will be re-cast
ITV are making a pilot Naked House which will feature Jason Manford who discovers his parents are nudists when he moves back in with them.Karl Pilkington has signed for The Short Way Round in which he cycles the world with Warwick Davis in the basket.
Ricky Gervais to play a retirement home worker in a new C4 comedy Derek.”
“Presumably the main roles will be re-cast
ITV are making a pilot Naked House which will feature Jason Manford who discovers his parents are nudists when he moves back in with them.Karl Pilkington has signed for The Short Way Round in which he cycles the world with Warwick Davis in the basket.
Ricky Gervais to play a retirement home worker in a new C4 comedy Derek.”
Early April Fools joke??
Originally Posted by derek500:
“The HBO deal I believe is £30m per year and for that they're getting all the new stuff and the archive. The cost per hour is tiny especially when it includes high rating shows like Boardwalk and Game of Thrones.
Makes the price the BBC paid for the Voice format(£11-12.5m per year) even more incredulous.”
“The HBO deal I believe is £30m per year and for that they're getting all the new stuff and the archive. The cost per hour is tiny especially when it includes high rating shows like Boardwalk and Game of Thrones.
Makes the price the BBC paid for the Voice format(£11-12.5m per year) even more incredulous.”
Sky certainly get their money's worth with the HBO deal. But Sky also inflate the programme buying market by paying way over the top money for shows like Glee, Mad Men etc. They make sure other channels can't get them and reduce the programme's audience in the UK in a strange twist.
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“As for Homeland, perhaps NewsCorp wanted to sell it to an independent third party, rather than a company they have a large financial interest in?
Not uncommon for hot Fox owned shows not going to Sky.”
“As for Homeland, perhaps NewsCorp wanted to sell it to an independent third party, rather than a company they have a large financial interest in?
Not uncommon for hot Fox owned shows not going to Sky.”
It'll get to Sky eventually they did the same with Fox's 24 after 2 series on BBC2.
Also I didn't know Fox had a stake in Showtime.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
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It'll get to Sky eventually they did the same with Fox's 24 after 2 series on BBC2.”
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It'll get to Sky eventually they did the same with Fox's 24 after 2 series on BBC2.”
Quite common in marketing to offer a free sample of a new product!!
Soaps 28th March:
13:45 Doctors - 1.21m (22.4%)
13:45 Neighbours - 534k (9.8%)
17:30 Neighbours - 817k (6.7%)
* [lowest ever rating for a 17:30 episode]
18:00 Home & Away - 616k (4.3%)
18:30 Hollyoaks - 809k (5.0%)
* +1 142k (0.8%)
19:00 Emmerdale - 6.07m (34.0%)
* +1 261k (1.3%)
20:00 Waterloo Rd - 4.35m (20.3%)
E4 Hollyoaks - 498k (2.8%)
5* Home & Away - 419k (2.6%)
13:45 Doctors - 1.21m (22.4%)
13:45 Neighbours - 534k (9.8%)
17:30 Neighbours - 817k (6.7%)
* [lowest ever rating for a 17:30 episode]
18:00 Home & Away - 616k (4.3%)
18:30 Hollyoaks - 809k (5.0%)
* +1 142k (0.8%)
19:00 Emmerdale - 6.07m (34.0%)
* +1 261k (1.3%)
20:00 Waterloo Rd - 4.35m (20.3%)
E4 Hollyoaks - 498k (2.8%)
5* Home & Away - 419k (2.6%)
Typically low for the soaps in the hot weather. I never understood why the main broadcasters dont decide to push everything back an hour during summer
Originally Posted by rzt:
“6.3m average for The Apprentice yesterday, peaking at 7.2m.”
“6.3m average for The Apprentice yesterday, peaking at 7.2m.”
No dough this will be back again.
Sad news for Neighbours. I don't think any amount of nostalgia will save it now. Can't see Channel Five renewing it, as we are only half way through the contract now and the ratings have nosedived. I really think Channel Five are missing a golden opportunity by not having someone from Neighbours and Home and Away on Celebrity Big Brother. It would be an ideal profile raiser.
Wednesday 28th March - More Overnights
BBC One
21:00- The Apprentice: 6.33m (26.7%)
BBC Two
20:00- The Fisherman's Apprentice with Monty Halls: 1.66m (7.8%)
21:00- Wikileaks: The Secret Life of a Superpower: 641k (2.7%)
22:00- The Apprentice: You're Fired!: 2.18m (11.4%)
ITV1
19:30- UEFA Champions League: AC Milan v Barcelona: 3.74m (17.3%)
Channel 4
20:00- Four Rooms: 1.14m (5.3%) , +1: 162k (0.7%)
21:00- One Born Every Minute: 2.46m (10.4%) , +1: 428k (2.5%)
Channel 5
20:00- Big Body Squad: 946k (4.4%)
21:00- NCIS: 1.72m (7.3%) , +1: 114k (0.7%)
22:00- Law & Order: Criminal Intent: 970k (5.6%)
Primetime Shares
BBC One: 22.7%
ITV1: 14.7% (+1: 0.4%)
Channel 4: 6.2% (+1: 1.2%)
BBC Two: 5.9%
Channel 5: 5.4% (+1: 0.3%)
Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary
Multichannel
5*
21:00- Justified: 118k (0.5%)
22:00- Sons of Anarchy: 168k (1.1%)
BBC Three
21:00- I Never Said Yes: 369k (1.6%)
Sky 1
20:00- Emergency Abroad: 191k (0.9%)
Sky Living
21:00- The Secret Circle: 124k (0.6%)
22:00- Grey's Anatomy: 162k (1%)
Source: DS
BBC One
21:00- The Apprentice: 6.33m (26.7%)
BBC Two
20:00- The Fisherman's Apprentice with Monty Halls: 1.66m (7.8%)
21:00- Wikileaks: The Secret Life of a Superpower: 641k (2.7%)
22:00- The Apprentice: You're Fired!: 2.18m (11.4%)
ITV1
19:30- UEFA Champions League: AC Milan v Barcelona: 3.74m (17.3%)
Channel 4
20:00- Four Rooms: 1.14m (5.3%) , +1: 162k (0.7%)
21:00- One Born Every Minute: 2.46m (10.4%) , +1: 428k (2.5%)
Channel 5
20:00- Big Body Squad: 946k (4.4%)
21:00- NCIS: 1.72m (7.3%) , +1: 114k (0.7%)
22:00- Law & Order: Criminal Intent: 970k (5.6%)
Primetime Shares
BBC One: 22.7%
ITV1: 14.7% (+1: 0.4%)
Channel 4: 6.2% (+1: 1.2%)
BBC Two: 5.9%
Channel 5: 5.4% (+1: 0.3%)
Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary
Multichannel
5*
21:00- Justified: 118k (0.5%)
22:00- Sons of Anarchy: 168k (1.1%)
BBC Three
21:00- I Never Said Yes: 369k (1.6%)
Sky 1
20:00- Emergency Abroad: 191k (0.9%)
Sky Living
21:00- The Secret Circle: 124k (0.6%)
22:00- Grey's Anatomy: 162k (1%)
Source: DS
I dont understand why in the region ratings, Itv1s so popular in Northern Ireland and why BBC1s so popular in South East. Its not just for the regional news but for all shows, can someone explain why this is the case?
Also, I forgot to say yesterday I thought The Syndicate was excellent and the rating was a very good start.
Also, I forgot to say yesterday I thought The Syndicate was excellent and the rating was a very good start.
[quote=SamuelW;57375018]I dont understand why in the region ratings, Itv1s so popular in Northern Ireland and why BBC1s so popular in South East. Its not just for the regional news but for all shows, can someone explain why this is the case?
I think in the case of UTV it is because it has a very strong local identity with local presentation (including in-vision continuity) and although it sticks closely to network programmes it has some strong local opt-outs and a comprehensive news service. I have always thought the rebranding of other regions to ITV1 was a mistake and the cost saving was a false economy
I think in the case of UTV it is because it has a very strong local identity with local presentation (including in-vision continuity) and although it sticks closely to network programmes it has some strong local opt-outs and a comprehensive news service. I have always thought the rebranding of other regions to ITV1 was a mistake and the cost saving was a false economy
Justified and Sons of Anarchy aired on 5USA. Not great for either, but both great shows. I don't know why they don't run the 5USA exclusives on Thursday nights when there is no first run US content on the main channel, or is that too logical?
Can't help thinking Apprentice is not going to hit the heights this year. Is it past its peak I wonder?
I haven't engaged fully with this new series yet, I have to say. The candidates look uniformly hopeless.
And also the real life comedy of errors that is the Coalition - of late, anyway. Look at "pasty-gate" and the "jerrycan" fiasco yesterday - no wonder Iannucci is struggling to come up with material that can compete with that!
I haven't engaged fully with this new series yet, I have to say. The candidates look uniformly hopeless.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“well ok, but the casting was perfect and it was also of its time. The civil service and government is much different today as characterised by The Thick Of it.”
“well ok, but the casting was perfect and it was also of its time. The civil service and government is much different today as characterised by The Thick Of it.”
And also the real life comedy of errors that is the Coalition - of late, anyway. Look at "pasty-gate" and the "jerrycan" fiasco yesterday - no wonder Iannucci is struggling to come up with material that can compete with that!
Originally Posted by C14E:
“I don't think it alone is going to make people sign up - maybe a few, but not many. I'd say the same of most channels. But it might help. I think if you're selling a package, then a channel of premium US content (the theory behind it anyway!) is going to draw in more people than whatever Sky3 was...”
“I don't think it alone is going to make people sign up - maybe a few, but not many. I'd say the same of most channels. But it might help. I think if you're selling a package, then a channel of premium US content (the theory behind it anyway!) is going to draw in more people than whatever Sky3 was...”
I remain unconvinced.
Firstly as it stands I think the concept of Sky Atlantic as a home for high quality premium content alienates just as many viewers as it attracts. And their pretentious promotional campaign for the launch of the channel did them no favours on that front especially when that campaign didn't actually match up with the reality of the channel on launch or now.
More importantly though there's just nothing distinctive or unique about Sky Atlantic. I don't think there's a single show on the channel that couldn't (or perhaps shouldn't) air on another channel on the Sky platform. It seems to me for example that actually the whole Sky Atlantic concept could be boiled down to one day on the Sky1 schedule. I think the likes of Boardwalk and Mad Men would function perfectly well as part of a high quality block on the Sky1 schedule. But as we're seeing those shows certainly aren't enough to sustain an entire channel.
Bigger picture wise I suppose the problem is that there's a general lack of real distinction between Sky1, Sky Living and Sky Atlantic. At this stage its very difficult to work out what criteria Sky is actually using to decide where any given show should air on the platform and that makes launching and sustaining Atlantic impossible. It is for example almost impossible to successfully market Atlantic as the home as quality US drama when both Sky1 and Living are airing a lot of US drama. Essentially they need a better selling point for Atlantic and they don't have one.
I suppose they could try and market Sky Atlantic as the channel for adults – similar to the initial pitch for More4. Sky Living is the female focused brand, Sky1 the all purpose more family orientated brand and then Atlantic as the adult brand. That would also give them a wider scope for content and allow them to shift things around all three channels to create stronger line-ups across the board. I'd shift Spartacus to Sky Atlantic for example and maybe look at moving some of the HBO comedies to Sky1 where they can be part of the comedy blocks on the channel. Although outside of Curb... none of the HBO comedies are actually that good so maybe not.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Also I didn't know Fox had a stake in Showtime.”
“Also I didn't know Fox had a stake in Showtime.”
They don't. Showtime is CBS but Fox21 are the production company behind Homeland and the one's selling it internationally.
Originally Posted by ftv:
“Guardian Media reports that Murdoch may set up a rival sports network to ESPN in the US.”
“Guardian Media reports that Murdoch may set up a rival sports network to ESPN in the US.”
Which will make an astonishingly crowded sports market given that NBC have just launched NBC Sports to compete with ESPN as well.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Justified and Sons of Anarchy aired on 5USA. Not great for either, but both great shows. I don't know why they don't run the 5USA exclusives on Thursday nights when there is no first run US content on the main channel, or is that too logical?”
“Justified and Sons of Anarchy aired on 5USA. Not great for either, but both great shows. I don't know why they don't run the 5USA exclusives on Thursday nights when there is no first run US content on the main channel, or is that too logical?”
I don't know why they're not airing them on the main channel. Especially Justified which actually fits the Five brand quite well.
In other news
Jeremy Piven now confirmed in the title role of ITV's Mr Selfridge with Katherine Kelly (formally of Coronation Street) set as what appears to be the female lead. Press release also confirms as ten x 60 minute episodes. Production begins in April for transmission in 2013. (Replacing Wild at Heart on Sunday for Q1 perhaps?)
http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/told...s-mr-selfridge
Jeremy Piven now confirmed in the title role of ITV's Mr Selfridge with Katherine Kelly (formally of Coronation Street) set as what appears to be the female lead. Press release also confirms as ten x 60 minute episodes. Production begins in April for transmission in 2013. (Replacing Wild at Heart on Sunday for Q1 perhaps?)
http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/told...s-mr-selfridge
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Can't help thinking Apprentice is not going to hit the heights this year. Is it past its peak I wonder?”
“Can't help thinking Apprentice is not going to hit the heights this year. Is it past its peak I wonder?”
Its no longer in the A league of reality shows
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“And also the real life comedy of errors that is the Coalition - of late, anyway. Look at "pasty-gate" and the "jerrycan" fiasco yesterday - no wonder Iannucci is struggling to come up with material that can compete with that!”
“And also the real life comedy of errors that is the Coalition - of late, anyway. Look at "pasty-gate" and the "jerrycan" fiasco yesterday - no wonder Iannucci is struggling to come up with material that can compete with that!”
these are just tittle tattle trivia of no real importance. I cant believe that NewsNight was doing features on these last night. How low that show has gone in recent years.
[quote=OLIVEBUS;57375760]
UTV has always retained high viewer loyalty, more than any other ITV region, although there are BBC programmes that rate highly within the Province - EE for instance.UTV's performance over the years certainly suggests turning ITV1 into a bland network with no local identity was not the way to go.BBC1 has traditionally been strong in the south of England,south-west and Wales, and London.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“I dont understand why in the region ratings, Itv1s so popular in Northern Ireland and why BBC1s so popular in South East. Its not just for the regional news but for all shows, can someone explain why this is the case?
I think in the case of UTV it is because it has a very strong local identity with local presentation (including in-vision continuity) and although it sticks closely to network programmes it has some strong local opt-outs and a comprehensive news service. I have always thought the rebranding of other regions to ITV1 was a mistake and the cost saving was a false economy”
“I dont understand why in the region ratings, Itv1s so popular in Northern Ireland and why BBC1s so popular in South East. Its not just for the regional news but for all shows, can someone explain why this is the case?
I think in the case of UTV it is because it has a very strong local identity with local presentation (including in-vision continuity) and although it sticks closely to network programmes it has some strong local opt-outs and a comprehensive news service. I have always thought the rebranding of other regions to ITV1 was a mistake and the cost saving was a false economy”
UTV has always retained high viewer loyalty, more than any other ITV region, although there are BBC programmes that rate highly within the Province - EE for instance.UTV's performance over the years certainly suggests turning ITV1 into a bland network with no local identity was not the way to go.BBC1 has traditionally been strong in the south of England,south-west and Wales, and London.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Can't help thinking Apprentice is not going to hit the heights this year. Is it past its peak I wonder?”
“Can't help thinking Apprentice is not going to hit the heights this year. Is it past its peak I wonder?”
Aren't you going to wait for the 'proper' ratings and iPlayer figures Robbie?
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Its no longer in the A league of reality shows”
“Its no longer in the A league of reality shows”
I dont think it ever was, its always been more of a 7/8m show and only touched 10m on a handful of occasions.
Originally Posted by Andy Parish:
“Aren't you going to wait for the 'proper' ratings and iPlayer figures Robbie?
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“Aren't you going to wait for the 'proper' ratings and iPlayer figures Robbie?
”
Very true. Given that The Apprentice gets huge iPlayer figures, huge timeshifts and had a higher share this week, I think its a bit premature to read anything into a couple of underwhelming overnights.
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“I remain unconvinced.
Firstly as it stands I think the concept of Sky Atlantic as a home for high quality premium content alienates just as many viewers as it attracts. And their pretentious promotional campaign for the launch of the channel did them no favours on that front especially when that campaign didn't actually match up with the reality of the channel on launch or now.
More importantly though there's just nothing distinctive or unique about Sky Atlantic. I don't think there's a single show on the channel that couldn't (or perhaps shouldn't) air on another channel on the Sky platform. It seems to me for example that actually the whole Sky Atlantic concept could be boiled down to one day on the Sky1 schedule. I think the likes of Boardwalk and Mad Men would function perfectly well as part of a high quality block on the Sky1 schedule. But as we're seeing those shows certainly aren't enough to sustain an entire channel.
Bigger picture wise I suppose the problem is that there's a general lack of real distinction between Sky1, Sky Living and Sky Atlantic. At this stage its very difficult to work out what criteria Sky is actually using to decide where any given show should air on the platform and that makes launching and sustaining Atlantic impossible. It is for example almost impossible to successfully market Atlantic as the home as quality US drama when both Sky1 and Living are airing a lot of US drama. Essentially they need a better selling point for Atlantic and they don't have one.
I suppose they could try and market Sky Atlantic as the channel for adults – similar to the initial pitch for More4. Sky Living is the female focused brand, Sky1 the all purpose more family orientated brand and then Atlantic as the adult brand. That would also give them a wider scope for content and allow them to shift things around all three channels to create stronger line-ups across the board. I'd shift Spartacus to Sky Atlantic for example and maybe look at moving some of the HBO comedies to Sky1 where they can be part of the comedy blocks on the channel. Although outside of Curb... none of the HBO comedies are actually that good so maybe not.
They don't. Showtime is CBS but Fox21 are the production company behind Homeland and the one's selling it internationally.
Which will make an astonishingly crowded sports market given that NBC have just launched NBC Sports to compete with ESPN as well.”
“I remain unconvinced.
Firstly as it stands I think the concept of Sky Atlantic as a home for high quality premium content alienates just as many viewers as it attracts. And their pretentious promotional campaign for the launch of the channel did them no favours on that front especially when that campaign didn't actually match up with the reality of the channel on launch or now.
More importantly though there's just nothing distinctive or unique about Sky Atlantic. I don't think there's a single show on the channel that couldn't (or perhaps shouldn't) air on another channel on the Sky platform. It seems to me for example that actually the whole Sky Atlantic concept could be boiled down to one day on the Sky1 schedule. I think the likes of Boardwalk and Mad Men would function perfectly well as part of a high quality block on the Sky1 schedule. But as we're seeing those shows certainly aren't enough to sustain an entire channel.
Bigger picture wise I suppose the problem is that there's a general lack of real distinction between Sky1, Sky Living and Sky Atlantic. At this stage its very difficult to work out what criteria Sky is actually using to decide where any given show should air on the platform and that makes launching and sustaining Atlantic impossible. It is for example almost impossible to successfully market Atlantic as the home as quality US drama when both Sky1 and Living are airing a lot of US drama. Essentially they need a better selling point for Atlantic and they don't have one.
I suppose they could try and market Sky Atlantic as the channel for adults – similar to the initial pitch for More4. Sky Living is the female focused brand, Sky1 the all purpose more family orientated brand and then Atlantic as the adult brand. That would also give them a wider scope for content and allow them to shift things around all three channels to create stronger line-ups across the board. I'd shift Spartacus to Sky Atlantic for example and maybe look at moving some of the HBO comedies to Sky1 where they can be part of the comedy blocks on the channel. Although outside of Curb... none of the HBO comedies are actually that good so maybe not.
They don't. Showtime is CBS but Fox21 are the production company behind Homeland and the one's selling it internationally.
Which will make an astonishingly crowded sports market given that NBC have just launched NBC Sports to compete with ESPN as well.”
Very good analysis. I was quite perplexed by an advert for what seemed to be a documentary series of a fishing town for Sky Atlantic... how that fits with slick quality US drama i have no idea
Hi there, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how the following shows rate at tea-time:
Four In a Bed, Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is, The Chase and Pointless.
I'm trying to work out how they rate against Neighbours, and if Neighbours is really in trouble by comparing it to these shows ratings. Thanks in advance if anyone knows anything
Four In a Bed, Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is, The Chase and Pointless.
I'm trying to work out how they rate against Neighbours, and if Neighbours is really in trouble by comparing it to these shows ratings. Thanks in advance if anyone knows anything
Originally Posted by Edward Skylover:
“Hi there, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how the following shows rate at tea-time:
Four In a Bed, Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is, The Chase and Pointless.
I'm trying to work out how they rate against Neighbours, and if Neighbours is really in trouble by comparing it to these shows ratings. Thanks in advance if anyone knows anything”
“Hi there, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how the following shows rate at tea-time:
Four In a Bed, Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is, The Chase and Pointless.
I'm trying to work out how they rate against Neighbours, and if Neighbours is really in trouble by comparing it to these shows ratings. Thanks in advance if anyone knows anything
”
I believe The Chase and Pointless regulary get over 2 million sometimes even when the episodes are repeats. I think they've probably contributed to Neighbours' teatime slide
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