Wasnt quite BBC1's ice berg though was it? I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so ITV should be pretty pleased that the BBC is copying their every move

I calculate BBC1's average in the 19:00 and 22:00 hours to be 14.4%. I can only assume that the New Tricks repeat at 22:20 and Match of the Day until 19:15 got something very low, ie. below 10%.

More than a decade since Sky and then BBC1 respectively premiered the definitive film version of the Titanic, the one your lot have remade on a tenth of the budget (boy does it show), I think you guys are the Johnny Come Latelies...!

A horror story for BBC1 last night, very poor ratings particularly for EastEnders. Maybe all the viewers were out for the day in Brighton or Southend or somewhere!

I was only thinking this morning that The Boat Race had very little fuss surrounding it, it was only mentioned in passing during the Sport on Breakfast this morning, and until that point I didn't even know it was on today. This may lead to low ratings, as an eventful race is only good if people are watching in the first place (or are on Twitter, near a TV to quickly tune in)

Any ratings for the Planet's Funniest Animals? It's very strange how it has suddenly been promoted to ITV1, what with it being a very obvious US import and also in 4:3

At some point you might post something other than tedious downplaying of ITV. :yawn:

I tend to only read this thread but felt compelled to reply to you as I get sick of your constant spinning of ITV ratings/programmes. A lot of people really do post positive contributions to this thread, yet, all you seem to do is partake in desperate attempts to downplay anything and everything ITV.

We know EastEnders has had a disappointing rating, when we get a "gap" update from Roscoe.

To be fair, where Titanic is concerned, Robbie has a very valid point. I don't think they expected the second episode to get 4.4m (exc +1)/4.7m (inc +1). They must have been hoping for a lot higher given the money that's gone into it.

So I'm not sure why you've replied to Robbie with regards Titanic, if anything, he is correct here.

I find it funny that you choose a post of his replying to someone who does the exact same thing you're accusing Robbie of (just for another channel), yet you single out him.

The Wolf programmes were probably more suited to BBC2 and displacing New Tricks has not worked. As for the football, a home team in the quarter finals of the CL averaged less than 5 million so a Championship game these days -again probably better on BBC2.

With respect, BBC Two wouldn't have time to show programmes of its own the amount of BBC One programmes you've suggested should be on there! Why not just accept BBC One can't be this mainstream ratings leader you appear to want it to be 100% of the time? Surely you don't really believe that yet another New Tricks repeat would have represented a better Good Friday 9pm offering than a new documentary, even if it did generate approximately 1 million fewer viewers.

Dare I say it, the numbers aren't everything, especially as far as BBC One is concerned. And all channels have strong and weak nights; hits and flops. As far as the all important bigger picture is concerned, BBC One is doing just fine.

The 'Wolf programme' never caught the attention of viewers, I think we would all like to see less repeats in primetime and personally I enjoy nature programmes, wolves are fascinating animals. A one hour programme would have been enough though - rather than over 2 consecutive evenings. BBC1 has 1098 hours of primetime to fill in 2012 - (from 7-10pm Mon-Sun) - hopefully repeats and reruns will be kept to a bare minimum.

I don't mind being the only RT poster who is looking forward to Titanic on Sunday, just 25 hours to go to episode 3!!

Fair point. In fairness, I meant the post more as a general point than singling out that his particular point on Titanic.

Chris1964: It feels like Robbie is the worst offender.
I don't support ITV or BBC in particular, I like both channels.

Robbie and GeorgeS have a lot of banter here, they are the official spokesmen for BBC1/ITV1 so I think we can allow them some leeway. Robbie does bash BBC1 on occasion and has a slight reputation for under-predicting But the thread is pretty impartial as a whole - most of us have fave programmes, few of us avoid channels out of spite or wish them to suffer poor ratings.

The only thing we all seem to chuckle at is the regular ITV1 Tuesday night flopzone - more often than not ITV1 seems to struggle after Emmerdale.

You and me have a slightly different definition of slight.

Back too just reading for me.

A bizarre ad break choice from ITV1 - they've just gone to one. Which only 3m will watch as everyone else will dive across to catch the end of The Voice. The gap should be bigger than last week because of it.

Ahh the was a cheeky grin, I don't take 'joke' comments seriously here - I do like to read the comments from posters like D.M.N. & rzt to name but two. I lean to BBC1 a little myself, but I do enjoy 100s of hours on ITV1 per year and avoid the poor programmes when possible.

Well you could argue the great british public thought otherwise.
I was only trying to explain away what was a very poor night for BBC1. And its not as though Championship football has not been on BBC2 before. And BBC2 for the most part just recycle Flog It, Coast and endless quiz and cookery programmes-Id argue BBC2(generally) needed the diversity that the football and the Wolf provided.
Each to their own though.

I still can't quite work out how Titanic with Len Goodman came to be. I get the Titanic documentary bit but I just cannot for the life of me work out why they got Len Goodman of all people to front it. Am I missing something here?

On another note completely whilst switching over for The Voice tonight I stumbled upon an advert for Horrible Histories and it got me thinking - why isn't that airing in the early Saturday slot on BBC1? Its relatively popular already, quite good and fills that 'fun for all the family' criteria the slot needs.

At age 19, before pursuing dancing, Len Goodman spent time as an apprentice welder at Harland & Wolff, the shipyard that built the Titanic.

I'm pretty sure they aired it on Sunday nights early evening.

tenuous at best. They were hoping to attract the Strictly audience and it obviously hasn't worked!

I wonder if the talent shows will be down a lot tonight like the soaps because of Easter holidays?

Re: The Voice, my only criticism is that it hasnt had the standout contestant which has made everyone talk. I thought Vince Kidd would be the one to do it last week but there wasnt much press coverage or buzz about him in the week. I guess its not so much a big deal as The Voice is already getting 9million viewers but to send it to that next level, it wouldve been good to have a Nasty Nick or Paul Potts type contestant who caused such a strong reaction with the public and helped tidal wave BBs and BGTs first seasons. The Voice UK has yet to find that one person. One auditions show left though so maybe itll happen next week.

Well said. How many more reasons can there be for ee awful ratings? Maybe the ee viewers had a day trip to
The moon? Or just the fact it's rubbish, far fetched, depressing and people are finding better things to watch?!

Even if they do find someone particularly good, I don't think the format especially lends itself to that, tbh. Partly because there are so many decent contestants in every episode - even the bad ones are decent and frequently better than the ones that get through! BGT has become a "YouTube show" because they only feature a small number of standout acts per episode. The episodes are usually 40-60 minutes (rather than 80) and they've got bad acts and montages. It gives viewers (and the media) a really obvious takeaway from each episode. And then they'll follow those acts going forward. It's also far easier to present mediocre talent as a "standout" act when you've only had one or two good ones through the show. Whereas on The Voice we're meant to believe they're all amazing and on the verge of global superstar status in every episode. X Factor/BGT only try and sell that sh*te once or twice a night!

Both styles work against the next stage, IMO. On BGT, you end up with semi-finals with 3 acts that you really know and 5 you barely remember. On The Voice, you kind of recognise them all... but only vaguely from among the long procession of similar acts that make up that top 40.

I watched Britains Got Talent tonight and a couple of contestants are definately going viral. The rapper and dog act. But youre right that they dont feature many acts per episode and by the time the semi finals come around, viewers dont even know half of them because theres as many as 40 contestants! The Voice has the problem you said too, although at least with the battle rounds BBC1 are getting them done quickly and not stretching it out over a month like NBC.