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A-Z of Horse Racing (Part 2)
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Big Dipper
11-06-2013
Originally Posted by chloedancer:
“do 3 horses count...placepot wise....in an 8 horse race? i.e 8.00 lingfield”

Let me point you in the direction of this thread over here where people will be glad to answer your question.

That said I'm certain the answer is yes, but don't take any notice of me because I only know about stuff that happened about 100 years ago. Even that knowledge could be considered a trifle sketchy.
jmclaugh
11-06-2013
Midday. The last in a great of line of fillies trained by Cecil who won 2 Breeders' Cup Filly & Mare Turfs and 3 consecutive Nassau Stakes.
chloedancer
12-06-2013
Originally Posted by Big Dipper:
“Let me point you in the direction of this thread over here where people will be glad to answer your question.

That said I'm certain the answer is yes, but don't take any notice of me because I only know about stuff that happened about 100 years ago. Even that knowledge could be considered a trifle sketchy.”

thanks for that.sorry for posting in the wrong place
Terrence Chant
12-06-2013
Noel Murless, who Sir Henry succeeded running Warren Place stables in Newmarket
Big Dipper
12-06-2013
Old Vic - Timeform 136 and Sir Henry's only winner of the French Derby in 1989 by 7l. Also won the Irish Derby by 4l.
Terrence Chant
12-06-2013
Parthenon....his first winner at Royal Ascot in the 1970 Queen Alexandra Stakes
jmclaugh
12-06-2013
QE II which Cecil first won in 1979 with Kris, it was 32 years before Frankel gave him his second victory in the race.
Big Dipper
12-06-2013
Reference Point - won the Derby, King George & St Leger in 1987.

The last Derby winner to contest the St Leger before Camelot last year.
jmclaugh
12-06-2013
Snow Bride, one of only 2 fillies to win the Oaks who didn't pass the post first. The decision led to the Aga Khan, whose filly Aliysa was disqualified, withdrawing his horses from England for many years.
Big Dipper
12-06-2013
Twice Over - a 4 time Group 1 winner collecting 2 Champion Stakes, an Eclipse and a Juddmonte International.

A horse described by Sir Henry as 'a good friend'.
Terrence Chant
12-06-2013
United States Flower Bowl Invitational Stakes was successful for Cecil in 1997, when he trained Yashmak to victory
Big Dipper
12-06-2013
Verd-Antique - 1987 Yorkshire Cup winner. Sir Henry won this race 4 times in total.
jmclaugh
12-06-2013
Wollow. 1976 2,000 Guineas, Sussex, Eclipse (on a disqualification) and International Stakes winner. He reportedly cost punters £7m when finishing fifth as the 11/10 favourite in the Derby. From some comments Cecil made Wollow may in his view have been the best miler he trained prior to Frankel, he was Cecil's last 2,000 winner before Frankel. I reckon the horse to take that accolade was Kris.
Terrence Chant
13-06-2013
X = ten....furlongs, a mile and a quarter
jmclaugh
13-06-2013
Yves Saint-Martin, French champion jockey 15 times including 8 consecutive times in the 1960s.
Big Dipper
13-06-2013
QuartZ Du Montceau - 3m chaser trained by Diana Grissell. Won the last race on the final day of racing at Folkestone in December.
jmclaugh
13-06-2013
Arnull. Family of jockeys that included Sam who won the inaugural running of the Derby and in all members of the family rode the winners of 12 Derbys.
Big Dipper
13-06-2013
Bois Roussel - 1938 Derby winner. The first year the race was broadcast by BBC TV.
Terrence Chant
13-06-2013
Captain Cuttle, Coronach and Cameronian....3 of Fred Darling's record equalling 7 derby winners
jmclaugh
13-06-2013
Diomed winner of the inaugural Derby who was subsequently exported and became one of the foundation sires of the American thoroughbred bloodline. His pedigree boasts the Godolphin Arabian, the Darley Arabian, the Byerley Turk and a number of other stallions of North African and Middle Eastern origin.
Terrence Chant
14-06-2013
Elliott, Gordon: trainer of 2007 Grand National winner Silver Birch
Big Dipper
14-06-2013
Fitzsimmons, Jim - trained 3 Kentucky Derby winners, the second of which was Triple Crown victor Omaha in 1935.

Omaha was the last winner of the Kentucky Derby to run at Royal Ascot. In 1936 the horse came over to be trained by Cecil Boyd-Rochfort (stepfather of Henry Cecil) for the Gold Cup. He won a couple of prep races at Kempton but came up short at Ascot going down narrowly to 1935 Oaks winner Quashed.
Terrence Chant
14-06-2013
Guineas triumphs for Sir Henry C....nine
Big Dipper
14-06-2013
Her Majesty's Plate - a race of 3 separate heats each over 4 miles. Worth 100 guineas and open to any horse, mare or gelding over the age of 6.

The first race at the inaugural Ascot meeting in 1711.
jmclaugh
14-06-2013
Iroquois. The first US bred horse to win the Derby in 1881, he also won the St. James Palace Stakes, the Prince of Wales Stakes and the Leger in the same year. He was second in the 2,000 Guineas, narrowly missing the Triple Crown.
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