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Old 01-05-2012, 07:51
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:43
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John R. Upson - trainer.
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R. Vickers - Trainer.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:08
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Winter Derby - £100,000 added Group 3 event run over 10f at Lingfield in March, the most valuable race on the AW calendar in Britain.
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Old 01-05-2012, 14:43
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Old 01-05-2012, 15:10
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Zinfandel - bred-in-the-purple 1900 colt by 1896 Derby winner Persimmon out of a mare by 1880 Derby winner Bend Or.

Mixed it very well in top company with horses such as Sceptre & Pretty Polly but couldn't race in the 1903 classics because his nominator/breeder died before they were run.

(Under the rule in play at the time all classic entries died with the nominator.)
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Old 01-05-2012, 16:19
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Old 01-05-2012, 16:37
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Old 01-05-2012, 18:41
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Camberly Two....Roger Charlton trained consistent sort.
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Old 01-05-2012, 19:28
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Old 01-05-2012, 23:02
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A quick check reveals the voiding of entries on the death of the nominator applied to all stakes races not just classics. Therefore a top 3-y-o with a deceased owner was really screwed for the season. Certainly Zinfandel was superior at 4 to the 1903 Triple Crown winner Rock Sand but was never able to claim superiority at 3 due to lack of opportunities.

This rule affected more than one classic standard horse before it was changed in (I think) the 1920s.
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Old 01-05-2012, 23:03
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Emerging Market - won the 1996 Wokingham Stakes for owner Ian Cameron, late father of the current Prime Minister.
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Old 01-05-2012, 23:29
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French Fifteen........winner of the Djebel, regarded as the main French trial for our 2000 gns. Might struggle to confirm form with the 2nd and 3rd who are also entered at Newmarket
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Old 02-05-2012, 06:52
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Gelert....and I don't mean the Alan Berry trained useless one but a decent handicapper away back in the sixties.
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Old 02-05-2012, 07:23
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:44
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Judge n' Jury, veteran handicap sprinter.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:48
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Old 02-05-2012, 15:44
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Mind Games...one time very fast sprinter trained by Jack Berry.

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Old 02-05-2012, 19:15
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Old 02-05-2012, 19:33
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Originally Posted by Terrence Chant
Jockey - the lightest: apparently a fellow named Kitchener weighed in at 49lbs in the 1844 Chester Cup. That's three and a half stone - I find that a bit disturbing.
Peirse, Bill - the same weight as Kitchener and known in the sport as, 'the dwarf jockey'.

Good enough and strong enough to ride top class horses and won three classics (1793 St Leger and the 1810 & 1812 Oaks) in which his mounts must have carried upwards of 5st deadweight.
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Old 02-05-2012, 21:11
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