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#2476 |
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Am I watching the same match as the Welsh commentators? They have forgotten that France are one man down, so the scrums lineouts etc aren't equal.
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#2477 |
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Can't say I wasn't impressed with Wales' last scrum, France moved back at quite a pace.
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The French are a shambles plus they're now out on their feet as most of them played less than a week ago. Lot better Welsh performance than the first two games.
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****ing hell another collapsed scrum.
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****ing hell another collapsed scrum.
France get the penalty ??
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I can't recall the last time I saw such imprecision in the French back line. Passes in to touch, passes behind, failing to find the support runner.
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Thought [or was that hoped] that France wouldn't win the Grand Slam
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8 v 7 so would be a failure if Wales did not have the edge.
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They're not that good if truth be told. They never should have won the England game, they were clearly second best there.
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Points difference becoming interesting then
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What an odd match. France just didn't turn up and had no plan of what to do and made a huge number of errors. Wales were efficient in first half and turned points to pressure with a lucky try and a then a dodgy try in the second half (you can roll the ball forward to score??).
Scrums were dire, Rolland seemed to give alternate penalties, interspersed with the front rows not always being able to keep their feet on a poor surface. Hard to say who will win the 6 nations. |
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Which makes it even more galling [or should that be Gaul-ling] that they did
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What an odd match. France just didn't turn up and had no plan of what to do and made a huge number of errors. Wales were efficient in first half and turned points to pressure with a lucky try and a then a dodgy try in the second half (you can roll the ball forward to score??).
Scrums were dire, Rolland seemed to give alternate penalties, interspersed with the front rows not always being able to keep their feet on a poor surface. Hard to say who will win the 6 nations.
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#2489 |
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France are so infuriating to watch because they always have a talented backline, but then almost with the same regularity fail to turn up for away matches
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The Welsh front 5 were excellent, I do agree that Warburton's try should have been disallowed though, not that it would have made any difference to the outcome.
France were absolutely horrific. |
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France were absolutely horrific.
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Yet could still win the 6 nations
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What's wrong with Webb getting an opportunity? He's been playing a better game than Phillips has lately, and he can keep a lid on his temper.
He's not the second coming of Gareth Edwards but he reminded me a bit of when Dwayne Peel was thrown in instead of Rob Howley way back in the day. On paper a terrible decision but it all worked out well on the pitch. |
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Great result. Da iawn boyos
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Interesting new concept from the Video Referee - a rollerball try. Good luck to him in explaining how on earth Warburton was awarded that try
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While I wouldn't want to return to a game dominated by fly halves kicking on muddy pitches, for a while now, I sit watching top rugby union and wonder what the powers that be have done to it.
It's as if the game has been turned into a version of Rugby League but not as good. Gone are the days of a ball going along the line for a possible try by the winger or outside centre. Now, it's a procession of phases, with the big guys bull-dozering through a few yards at a time with endless rucks. At these, when the ball comes out, the scrum half often waits, killing any momentum. Why on earth is he allowed 5 seconds to play it? The referees call out to the players telling them to 'play it'. What's all that about? How would it be in football if the referee called out to a winger to get his cross in, or an Umpire in cricket called out to a batsmen not to leave a delivery? Surely, the referee is there to penalise breaches of the laws, not to coach the players through the game while it is happening? And this style of refereeing is inconsistent. Do Referees tell players to roll away in rucks? Then we get the scrums. Where do we start with these? By the 2nd half, I was turning over whenever a scrum was called. They are a complete farce. While at the start of these internationals we get US style pyrotechnics lead razzamatazz heralding the greatest event since the 2nd coming, within minutes, we are witnessing the dance of obsessive referees and conniving players wasting endless minutes. The crowd sits quietly and any momentum in the game is lost. Maybe when a scrum is called, they should re-light the fireworks? Then we get just about every try referred to the TV official, delaying things even more. It saddens me as I have watched the 5/6 nations all my life and have watched and enjoyed live Rugby Union at top clubs below the Premiership level. The whole thing flatters to deceive for me now. My enthusiasm could easily be rekindled in part, if they made play instant at rucks once the ball is available and if they sorted the scrums out. Perhaps the IRB should be sat down and shown re-runs of Gareth Edwards' try against the Barbarians in 1973 and asked the question as to how they could change the game to recreate that? |
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I've had a little nibble on an England Ireland draw today.
Other one is hard to call too. |
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Fair play, I'll admit when I'm wrong. Rhys Webb had a bloody good game today.
He's not the second coming of Gareth Edwards but he reminded me a bit of when Dwayne Peel was thrown in instead of Rob Howley way back in the day. On paper a terrible decision but it all worked out well on the pitch. |
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Tennis man - the 5 second rule was introduced to stop the scrum half just leaving the ball in the ruck and wasting time by running down the clock. The ref can now say the ball is available and must be passed or run with. Failure to do this results in a scrum to the other side. We saw that happen when France had the ball in their 22 and did nothing.
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To get all Irish rugby fans blood flowing before today's match - RTÉ's Ireland v England 2014 Promo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA1FdnOftgc
Can't fooking wait and may the best team win! |
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