French back play is officially extinct 
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Ian McGeechan will now whine on and on and on ...... after bigging up Scotland at half time!!
I do sometimes wonder how this man motivated the Lions, he always seems a bit benign when speaking.
I do sometimes wonder how this man motivated the Lions, he always seems a bit benign when speaking.
Who knows what mindset the French team will be in next week, Ireland must fancy their chances and good luck to them 
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“What a reception when he came off! I'm an emotional wreck
Great, great performance. Did a team ever, ever so deserve a grand slam?”
“What a reception when he came off! I'm an emotional wreck
Great, great performance. Did a team ever, ever so deserve a grand slam?”
Eh?
I'm Irish but am really confused by this, England were great value for their win in Twickenham
How in the name of all that's holy did Scotland lose that game?... It is though a perfect result for Ireland in terms of not having to deal with a French backlash next week.
Originally Posted by irishfeen:
“How in the name of all that's holy did Scotland lose that game?... It is though a perfect result for Ireland in terms of not having to deal with a French backlash next week.”
“How in the name of all that's holy did Scotland lose that game?... It is though a perfect result for Ireland in terms of not having to deal with a French backlash next week.”
The French team is currently a shambles, so this may be a good time to go to Paris
That is a great interception by the French.
It is easy when you are in the commentary box and watching the replay.
It is easy when you are in the commentary box and watching the replay.
Originally Posted by irishfeen:
“How in the name of all that's holy did Scotland lose that game?... It is though a perfect result for Ireland in terms of not having to deal with a French backlash next week.”
“How in the name of all that's holy did Scotland lose that game?... It is though a perfect result for Ireland in terms of not having to deal with a French backlash next week.”
But after the horror show in Cardiff two weeks ago should there not have been a backlash today?
They're just a poor team
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Could you imagine if France actually won the tournament!”
“Could you imagine if France actually won the tournament!”
Yes I can, they are unpredictable ....... even in that last minute they were stil chucking the ball around and driving forward.
I do like the Frech flair.
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Could you imagine if France actually won the tournament!”
“Could you imagine if France actually won the tournament!”
If either Wales or England finish on 8 and if France beat Ireland narrowly, then France's points difference is against them
Originally Posted by Pendragon579:
“If either Wales or England finish on 8 and if France beat Ireland narrowly, then France's points difference is against them”
“If either Wales or England finish on 8 and if France beat Ireland narrowly, then France's points difference is against them”
Well the winner tomorrow could always lose next week.
Highly unlikely but stranger has happened. I mean Italy should probably have won in Twickenham last year, though I think England are better all round right now
It'd be crazy though if it somehow happened, France should have lost 3 by now
Think Gatland's musings this week has basically written Stuart Lancaster's team talk for him 
Yes it would be ironic if Wales, England and Ireland all lose next week 
Yes it would be ironic if Wales, England and Ireland all lose next week
Ireland have one hand on the trophy now. They have a points difference of +81. France have +3. France would have to beat them by 39 points to just get them back to 0. England have +21, Wales have +6. It's out of their hands now.
Originally Posted by MeicY:
“Ireland have one hand on the trophy now. They have a points difference of +81. France have +3. France would have to beat them by 39 points to just get them back to 0. England have +21, Wales have +6. It's out of their hands now.”
“Ireland have one hand on the trophy now. They have a points difference of +81. France have +3. France would have to beat them by 39 points to just get them back to 0. England have +21, Wales have +6. It's out of their hands now.”
I think
If France beat them, points difference won't matter to Ireland, as they'd have lost 2 games. It may play into the French minds of course as...
Assuming England and Wales win their relatively easy games on the final week, it would likely be between the winner of tomorrow's game who'd only have lost 1, and France who'd only have lost 1, so France would have points to make up either way
Of course if Ireland beat France, then yep, neither England or Wales have a hope of making up the difference.
The final round of the championship should have simultaneous kick-offs. Playing last could be a crucial advantage for Ireland next week. All three games would be shown via the red button. BBC1 would follow the destination of the title and switch games if appropriate.
Originally Posted by Nick G:
“The final round of the championship should have simultaneous kick-offs. Playing last could be a crucial advantage for Ireland next week. All three games would be shown via the red button. BBC1 would follow the destination of the title and switch games if appropriate.”
“The final round of the championship should have simultaneous kick-offs. Playing last could be a crucial advantage for Ireland next week. All three games would be shown via the red button. BBC1 would follow the destination of the title and switch games if appropriate.”
I see your point about possible advantages, but I wouldn't welcome that action - I want to watch them all, as they happen.
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“Yes I can, they are unpredictable ....... even in that last minute they were stil chucking the ball around and driving forward.
I do like the French flair.”
“Yes I can, they are unpredictable ....... even in that last minute they were stil chucking the ball around and driving forward.
I do like the French flair.
”
I think flair was mostly absent. They have a great back 3 but no one to get them the ball unless they are running a kick back.
Can't remember seeing so many poor back to back performances from them.
I even feel sorry for Scotland
Originally Posted by platelet:
“I think
If France beat them, points difference won't matter to Ireland, as they'd have lost 2 games. It may play into the French minds of course as...
Assuming England and Wales win their relatively easy games on the final week, it would likely be between the winner of tomorrow's game who'd only have lost 1, and France who'd only have lost 1, so France would have points to make up either way
Of course if Ireland beat France, then yep, neither England or Wales have a hope of making up the difference.”
“I think
If France beat them, points difference won't matter to Ireland, as they'd have lost 2 games. It may play into the French minds of course as...
Assuming England and Wales win their relatively easy games on the final week, it would likely be between the winner of tomorrow's game who'd only have lost 1, and France who'd only have lost 1, so France would have points to make up either way
Of course if Ireland beat France, then yep, neither England or Wales have a hope of making up the difference.”
Of course you're right. What would need to happen is a nice comfortable Welsh win tomorrow, leaving 3 teams in it. Then all we need is Wales to beat Scotland and France to beat Ireland by equal or less points, meaning Wales would be on 8 points with France, and win it on points.
Not a nice way to win it, and not deserved, but I'd take it. Not that I can see Ireland losing to lez Froggies.
Originally Posted by MeicY:
“Of course you're right. What would need to happen is a nice comfortable Welsh win tomorrow, leaving 3 teams in it. Then all we need is Wales to beat Scotland and France to beat Ireland by equal or less points, meaning Wales would be on 8 points with France, and win it on points.
Not a nice way to win it, and not deserved, but I'd take it. Not that I can see Ireland losing to lez Froggies.”
“Of course you're right. What would need to happen is a nice comfortable Welsh win tomorrow, leaving 3 teams in it. Then all we need is Wales to beat Scotland and France to beat Ireland by equal or less points, meaning Wales would be on 8 points with France, and win it on points.
Not a nice way to win it, and not deserved, but I'd take it. Not that I can see Ireland losing to lez Froggies.”
See for me, a nice comfortable English win tomorrow
England take the Triple Crown, and I'll be happy with that. I'd then be cheering for Ireland against France despite the theoretical chance of England coming out on top if France win. I could try to justify it to myself with the England only just lost to France argument, but Ireland only just lost to England and I think all through the competition they've played the better rugby.
That and cheering for France is just , well wrong
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