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Old 11-01-2013, 11:07
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I agree. Although technically speaking, the tackle did fall foul law 10.4 (j) it was certainly not malicious like, you say, the one on BOD which many observers think was revenge for what was deemed as disrespectful response to the haka.

Tipuric was very unfortunate in that he made a tackle on Ian Keatley with Ian Gough, and Gough suddenly left him to it mid tackle thus Tipuric was left carrying the full weight of the player. The result was technically a tip tackle, although like Flood's not intended as such.
Shame, Tipuric has been looking class, will he get much game time during the 6N?

I've played against a couple of kiwi teams, one did the Haka (it was during a tour over there), 2 of our players "fronted up" because they'd read that it was a challenge and that the Kiwis respected it... within 10 minutes both of those were off injured, clean hit but by god they were vicious. Facing the haka was one of the best experiences of my life.
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:15
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Oh this was last season after RWC 2011. Currently, aside from the 50/50 injury he has now and depending on Warburton, Tipuric should be on the team sheet albeit as a sub for the big games more than likely.

I have not had the privilege of facing any NZ teams

I played for the Dubai Exiles RFC during the 1980s and we only faced expats from other Gulf countries and visiting Royal Navy ships.
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:41
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Oh this was last season after RWC 2011. Currently, aside from the 50/50 injury he has now and depending on Warburton, Tipuric should be on the team sheet albeit as a sub for the big games more than likely.

I have not had the privilege of facing any NZ teams

I played for the Dubai Exiles RFC during the 1980s and we only faced expats from other Gulf countries and visiting Royal Navy ships.
hah, a bit early for me but it was for an RN Ship I was playing... played the Dubai Exiles in addition to many many expat teams... Singapore Hairy Crabs had perhaps the best name.
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Old 27-01-2013, 15:01
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Can anyone let me know about line ups please

Does the hooker have to take the throw or can someone else ?
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Old 27-01-2013, 16:46
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Can anyone let me know about line ups please

Does the hooker have to take the throw or can someone else ?
Anyone can take the thrown in.

It has become the hookers role but it used to be that of the wingers - each takinng their wing.

In the classic Barbarians v New Zealand game that took place 40 years ago yesterday the All Black wingers certainly did it (not sure about the Baa Baas but within a couple of years the hooker would have.
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Old 30-01-2013, 08:45
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Heard that dinosaur Jim Telfer slagging of the English as 'arrogant' and the Welsh as 'lazy'. I notice he didn't add the Scottish team's flair for spoiling games and making them unwatchable over the decades.
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Old 30-01-2013, 09:14
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Heard that dinosaur Jim Telfer slagging of the English as 'arrogant' and the Welsh as 'lazy'. I notice he didn't add the Scottish team's flair for spoiling games and making them unwatchable over the decades.
The number of times I've heard the English described as arrogant

Ask the person making the claim to cite an example and they can't.
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Old 30-01-2013, 09:16
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teams for this weekend

Scotland
Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors), Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors), Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors), Matt Scott (Edinburgh), Tim Visser (Edinburgh), Ruaridh Jackson (Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh); Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors), Dougie Hall (Glasgow Warriors), Euan Murray (Worcester Warriors), Richie Gray (Sale Sharks), Jim Hamilton (Gloucester), Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan), Kelly Brown (captain - Saracens), Johnnie Beattie (Montpellier).

Substitutes: Ross Ford (Edinburgh), Moray Low (Glasgow Warriors), Geoff Cross (Edinburgh), Alastair Kellock (Glasgow Warriors), David Denton (Edinburgh), Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors), Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors), Max Evans (Castres).

Ireland
R Kearney; C Gilroy, B O'Driscoll, G D'Arcy, S Zebo; J Sexton, C Murray; C Healy, R Best, M Ross; M McCarthy, D Ryan; P O'Mahony, S O'Brien, J Heaslip (cpt).

Replacements: S Cronin, D Kilcoyne, D Fitzpatrick, C Henry, D O'Callaghan, E Reddan, R O'Gara, K Earls.

Wales
Forwards: Scott Andrews (Blues), Craig Mitchell (Exeter Chiefs), Adam Jones (Ospreys) Paul James (Bath), Gethin Jenkins (Toulon), Ryan Bevington (Ospreys), Richard Hibbard (Ospreys), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Matthew Rees (Scarlets), Ryan Jones (Ospreys), Lou Reed (Blues), Ian Evans (Ospreys), James King (Ospreys), Andrew Coombs (Dragons), Olly Kohn (Harlequins), Josh Turnbull (Scarlets), Josh Navidi (Blues), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Sam Warburton (Blues), Toby Faletau (Dragons), Andries Pretorius (Blues)

Backs: Tavis Knoyle (Scarlets), Mike Phillips (Bayonne), Lloyd Williams (Blues), Dan Biggar (Ospreys), James Hook (Perpignan), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Jamie Roberts (Blues), Scott Williams (Scarlets) Alex Cuthbert (Blues), George North (Scarlets), Eli Walker (Ospreys), Leigh Halfpenny (Blues), Liam Williams (Scarlets), Lee Byrne (Clermont).
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Old 30-01-2013, 09:33
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The number of times I've heard the English described as arrogant

Ask the person making the claim to cite an example and they can't.
England can never win that argument, if they win they are claimed as arrogant, they beat New Zealand and none of the players was arrogant about it but all the oppo teams claim they are.

The New Zealand win means nothing to me if England dont do well in this six nations.
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Old 31-01-2013, 09:11
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England can never win that argument, if they win they are claimed as arrogant, they beat New Zealand and none of the players was arrogant about it but all the oppo teams claim they are.

The New Zealand win means nothing to me if England dont do well in this six nations.
Agree with the first part. If Wales beat England by a couple of points you'll hear plenty of full of themselves comments with no comeback. England could win by 30 and the mearest hint of anything not humble will be jumped all over.

Re the 8 Nations I disagaree: The squad is still developing and this tournament, for me, is about developing depth - especially in the 2nd row and at centre. Clive Woodward got his squad to a level where there were pretty much 3 teams of players that, with a few exceptions, could come in and stiill be very competitive. That's what I want to see again, and I think it's achievable.

A final little gloat - a while back on here I floated that BillyTwelvetrees was one to watch, and was certainly worthy of International consideration but was told he was not, and never would be, near that mark. I see him, as a back up to Farrell as they guy who can play 10 or 12 (and I think, before long, Farrell will be surpassed at 10) and will be a very useful part of a large squad.
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Old 31-01-2013, 10:09
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When Sam Warburton was sent off during the WC , both the English and Welsh media treated him like a hero. Can you imagine the reaction of the media if an England captain had been sent off, he would have been absolutely slaughtered by the press. One journalist even made Warburton man of the match !
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Old 31-01-2013, 10:29
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My predictions:

Wales 13 Ireland 18
England 23 Scotland 9
Italy 12 France 25
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Old 31-01-2013, 10:35
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England team v Scotland

England team: Alex Goode (Saracens), Chris Ashton (Saracens), Brad Barritt (Saracens), Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester), Mike Brown (Harlequins); Owen Farrell (Saracens), Ben Youngs (Leicester); Joe Marler (Harlequins), Tom Youngs (Leicester), Dan Cole (Leicester), Joe Launchbury (London Wasps), Geoff Parling (Leicester), Tom Wood (Northampton), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), Ben Morgan (Gloucester)

Replacements: Dylan Hartley (Northampton), David Wilson (Bath), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Courtney Lawes (Northampton), James Haskell (London Wasps), Danny Care (Harlequins), Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers), David Strettle (Saracens)
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Old 31-01-2013, 11:17
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Sky beefs up it's rugby coverage

IRFU Announce Broadcast Partnerships With RTE and Sky Sports

Sky gain rights to France and Italy autumn international

I guessing Wales will be next
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Old 31-01-2013, 11:20
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My predictions:

Wales 13 Ireland 18
England 23 Scotland 9
Italy 12 France 25
I say

Wales 14 Ireland 26
England 14 Scotland 10
Italy 16 France 17
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Old 31-01-2013, 11:21
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A final little gloat - a while back on here I floated that BillyTwelvetrees was one to watch, and was certainly worthy of International consideration but was told he was not, and never would be, near that mark. I see him, as a back up to Farrell as they guy who can play 10 or 12 (and I think, before long, Farrell will be surpassed at 10) and will be a very useful part of a large squad.
I thought that the first couple of times I saw 36 play... problem is I just don't think he's developed into an international centre. I see him as steady, a replacement at best. That said I still don't see anyone other than Manu as an international class centre for England...
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Old 31-01-2013, 11:55
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I thought that the first couple of times I saw 36 play... problem is I just don't think he's developed into an international centre. I see him as steady, a replacement at best. That said I still don't see anyone other than Manu as an international class centre for England...
I see what you did there......... please don't doitagain

I think he's as good as some from other countries who certain commentators wax lyrical over. He is good with ball in hand, runs well and with good judgement. His kicking game is strong, certainly from the 12 spot and he's a good defender/support player.

Joseph is also a centre of true international worth, just needs the breaks at the moment, and Elliot Daly should be in the mix pretty soon..
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Old 31-01-2013, 12:48
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I see what you did there......... please don't doitagain
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You'll have to tell all rugby players then... I first heard Geordan Murphy call him that in a bar... I think most did at Leicester.

I see he's been named as a starter, makes sense really... and Tom Youngs deserves to keep his place. Wish we'd have kept Burns on the bench instead of Flood though as Flood is just a bit steady where as Burns would be a nice change up if Faz isn't doing it.
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Old 31-01-2013, 12:52
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Wales 12 Ireland 38
England 35 Scotland 12
Italy 22 France 29
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Old 31-01-2013, 13:01
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You'll have to tell all rugby players then... I first heard Geordan Murphy call him that in a bar... I think most did at Leicester.

I see he's been named as a starter, makes sense really... and Tom Youngs deserves to keep his place. Wish we'd have kept Burns on the bench instead of Flood though as Flood is just a bit steady where as Burns would be a nice change up if Faz isn't doing it.
Burns is injured I think - out for the first two games.
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Old 31-01-2013, 14:22
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Wales 12 Ireland 38
England 35 Scotland 12
Italy 22 France 29
OOh ! Disagree about the Wales game

Wales 19-15 Ireland
England 30-9 Scotland
Italy15 -16 France

Love the 36 name for Billy
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Old 31-01-2013, 14:46
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Going to be a fascinating series again with some very close games and a few upsets I think. At the moment I am putting Ireland as favourites for the title. Will this really be the last Six Nations for Brian O'Driscoll and if it is then will the national squad really miss his presence?
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Old 31-01-2013, 16:10
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Going to be a fascinating series again with some very close games and a few upsets I think. At the moment I am putting Ireland as favourites for the title. Will this really be the last Six Nations for Brian O'Driscoll and if it is then will the national squad really miss his presence?
He'll be missed for sure but not to the level he would have been for the previous 10 years... It's no longer "Brian's team" as such, they have a world class pack, arguably the best back row in the 6-Nations and the best Fly Half by a mile... They have strength everywhere. That said, I can't look past France, if their coach gets them to click they will be tough to beat, they've got a good draw as well.

England should be up there, they've got their tougher games at home, a lot rides how our 10 plays... and if we can keep 15 men on the park.
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Old 31-01-2013, 16:30
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I'm not expecting any team to win GS, so it'll come down to maths

I predict France as overall winners, with Ireland and England fighting for second spot

I'm off to Twickers on Saturday, thanks to last minute resale of tickets. Hoping for a birthday present win from England team
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Old 31-01-2013, 17:00
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I'm not expecting any team to win GS, so it'll come down to maths

I predict France as overall winners, with Ireland and England fighting for second spot

I'm off to Twickers on Saturday, thanks to last minute resale of tickets. Hoping for a birthday present win from England team
Tickets were £83 through my rugby club! I would want a three course dinner included!

I am not doing predictions anymore. They always make me look an idiot.........well that and being an idiot.
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