Amazing result.

Still room for improvement but England are an improving team. I was worried about the scrum before the game and whilst it wobbled sometimes, we held our own and Jenkins boring in was rightly penalised.

All this with key players missing and the likes of Wade still untried for a string of games.

Very happy.

Gutted for 1/2p. The lad puts his body on the line every time. He has missed a few tackles this 6Ns but none that have mattered. The one like he made on Burrell where it really matters, he makes most games. World class kicker too but Brown has been the best full back of the 6Ns this time round. Hugely impressive.

Because his are late or off the ball and stupid, whereas Brown has reacted to something happening to him. I don't recall it being more than verbal though.

Farrell has been a petulant **** at times and is lucky not to have been carded in previous.

That said, he had a good game today and kept his head.

Brown hasn't put a foot wrong this tournament. Easily England's best player.

"Form Is Temporary Class Is Permanent" - that was a classy thing for the WRU/Players/Management to do!

Loved this tweet from Ireland player Fergus Mcfadden:

That standing ovation I got coming off the bench yesterday was amazing #Thanks

How long does Gatland's contract run on? - possibly his tenure as Welsh manager has run its course, no shame in that.

Ha ha seen that tweet doing the rounds today, always seems to be fierce banter between the Irish lads in camp

Erm.....

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/r...-wales-6410278

Hard luck.

Aye but will he be there until 2019? - not a hope i'd say.... they were taken apart by both Ireland and England in this campaign, if that is repeated next year then they might part ways.

He's terrific he is........I'd never heard of him before this last couple of weeks !

As an intermittent rugby fan who only watches England games this is something I've noticed...........the turnaround in players seems enormous

Almost the whole team seems to change every year.........

I daresay if Farrell had had the mild bust ups that Brown had in French and Irish games, it would be held against him.

I wasn't trying to suggest that Brown is an indisciplined player, merely semi defending Farrell.

I'm not even a Farrell (or Saracens) fan. It's just that I don't personally think he's that petulant, at least no more so than other players.

Anyway I'll leave it there, as I don't want to derail the thread. Well done again England, hopefully we'll get a nice win in Italy next week (and who knows what else depending on last match).

Hugely impressive from England again, both forwards and backs. Keep this curve going and you have to think that a home WC win is definitely within their grasp. They don't have the fear of the Southern Hemisphere teams that plagues the other British teams.

Hard to believe it's just 12 months since the car crash in Cardiff.

Are we English folk meant to be supporting France next week?

Feel the French will have to play much better to beat Ireland though.

Impressive stuff from England - generally played very well throughout the tournament.

Farrell has been very lucky not be to carded for petulance. I can kinda understand why he does it. He went into test rugby at a young age and no doubt he was targeted so I would not be surprised if his old man told him not to take a backward step on the pitch. He just needs to get to grips with it a bit and yesterday he handled the occasion and his emotions perfectly. He is maturing.

I do however have some major issues with Farrell being first choice fly half as he lacks quite a bit of skill and at times vision. That said, he is improving in this area but I think Cipriani would be more suited in getting the best out of our pacey backline. It's a shame that Cips seems to have rubbed the RFU up the wrong way as he isn't even in the Saxons squad even though he has been one of the most consistent 10s in England for the past 2 seasons. It's a hell of a gamble going into a RWC with a 10 with dubious passing and another 10 (Ford) who is unlikely to get much game time in the next year. Farrell has always been a limited player. Great defence, average kicking (faultless yesterday though...even from hand!), average distribution. He may well mature into a very good test player and I hope that happens quickly as England are butchering too many chances at the moment.

Nice to see 12T improving with each game. Burrell has been marvellous too. The nightmare of Tomkins, Hape and the other dross we have served up in midfield seems a distant memory now and we even have Tuilagi to look forward to getting back.

Wings need some work. Nowell is ok but too raw. He needs more experience. May is fast and great at running sideways but I'm not sure he's cut out for test rugby. Yarde and Wade could be an amazing combination for England.

The pack is just going from strength to strength and that was without 2 of our first choice front row. I thought Wilson would struggle but he coped admirably considering how little he has played. Hartley was a bit lucky to stay on the pitch without being carded..some silly penalties. Second row is brilliant and Attwood on the bench adds some grunt to the scrum. Still have Parling to come back too. Back row is coming along nicely too. The work ethic or Robshaw and Wood is amazing. Nice to have a ball carrier there in Vunipola and Morgan. Kinda feel we need a genuine openside in there but we seem to be coping ok without one.

It's also great to see Lancaster learning how and when to use the bench. Care is staying on longer and that is great as he can inject so much control for the entire game if need be.

I honestly can't see us getting a cricket score against Italy in Rome. Ireland may have torn them a new one in Dublin but Owens didn't do any favours for Italy. Our only hope is France remembering how to play rugby at the same time as hoping England don't get complacent against the Italians. Man for man, we're better but still have to come up with the goods on the day.

So can England put 50+ on Italy at home, hard but not impossible, Italy crumbled this weekend in Dublin, lets hope England can do the same to them away. If they play like they did against Wales it could be on the cards.

If they can put 50 or so, we can support Ireland, just hoping they don't thrash France, if they don't, then sorry but we've got to support France (I dread the day).

There's no way England will thrash Italy. Should win (not being arrogant) but it may only be 10-15 points. Italy are at home and will get quite a few calls from Gauzere. Ireland mullered Italy and Owens helped them no end even if they didn't need it.

Thats my feeling tbh, I think Italy are getting to good for thrashings these days. They've played well all tournament up until Saturday, and the table doesn't reflect their playing.

England will win (x fingers) but I don't think by 50+, but stranger things have happened, it's all in Englands hands now.

Owens was certainly in Munster-mode on Saturday.

Strange comments from Gatland and McBryde on the Jenkin's yellow. Should have checked with Warburton surely before speaking out? Jenkin did get a fair warning beforehand even if he didn't agree with the ref's interpretation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/26510039

But last year when Walsh kept having a go at the English scrum in Cardiff everything was ok.

Sorry take the defeat and move on. Wether you agree or don't, he was told several times to improve and he failed to do it.

There's a lot of talk on various forums and rugby shows that Owens is the best ref in the world. I just don't see it. Sometimes the game is more free flowing but it's because he allows so much cheating..especially in the ruck. He clearly favours sides at times during the game too. When he reffed France Vs England, he pinged Dickson for feeding his first scrum. Fair enough, but he let all the previous feeds go unpunished. England lost vital field position deep in the French half as a result and it was at a key point in the game as we were well on top. Then, to make matters worse, he allows the following 2 French scrums to be fed directly to their #8. It was astonishing.

You need a level playing field for both teams so if refs choose to use their discretion, it has to be equal.

Poite let a few things go for either team on Sunday...there were a couple of tackles in the air from both sides which he allowed play on. Both teams lived a little offside but it was refreshing to see him give both teams a little leeway. Hartley was very lucky to still be on the pitch after 4 penalties though...each of them was absolutely brain dead.

Indeed.

Walsh had a pre-conception about the English scrum and regardless of any Welsh infringements during the scrum in that match (and there were some), he penalised the fack out of England and we had to deal with it.

Since Walsh returned after his forced break, he is an improved ref but I simply do not trust him to referee England. Look at 2012 at Twickenham when England 'scored' at the death. It was a try but wasn't given but he didn't go back for the penalty either. Cost us the chance of a draw which would have reflected the game. In 2013 he was at best a 'homer'.

What did he do wrong?

He penalised Italy 10 times whilst only giving 2 penalties against Ireland...both against Sexton. He gave Ireland the perfect platform. All they had to do then was touch the ball down for 7 tries.

Owens has a history of being a bit lenient on Munster in particular, but also Ireland. He's not called O'wens for nothing

Facinating front row battle on Saturday and goes to show how much the new laws now effect the game. The scrum has now become a proper contest for the ball which is great as it leads to some uncertainty as to weather you will get possession.

The main thing for the new laws is they very much favour the loosehead prop. Gethin Jenkins has for years been (in my opinion) at best an average scrummager with a great work rate yet under the new laws he is able to get in a nice pre drive position. The tighthead has to now be an utter rock as he is unable to use the massive hit to force a loosehead outside so they are able to get right under the sternum of the tighthead and drive in and up. The tighthead cant get his outside shoulder down which he really needs to do.

Poite is the first ref I have seen deal with it because as a tighthead you just get forced in and up. Jenkins cannot argue that he was going in he should have just come outside and held on. He really does whinge a lot on a rugby pitch its constant.

I though the English did very well to raise the issue with the ref and put it in his mind I actually think the Welsh scrum was totally dominant in the way they scrummed and under another ref Engalnd would have been pinged off the park but Poite knows the scrum and he was right with his penalties.