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The All Purpose Rugby Union Thread (P2)
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Eurostar
08-11-2014
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Ireland leading South Africa 13-3 in Dublin. Upset on the cards?”

Ireland leading 26 -10......fantastic performance
irishfeen
08-11-2014
29-15 - I asked for a statement to world rugby ... that was a statement and more! ... absolutely fantastic. I'm telling you there is something special about this team.
Mark F
08-11-2014
Well done to the Irish and Scots on 2 strong wins.

Don't Wales always just lose to the Aussies - a real hoodoo!

Have to catch the England highlights tomorrow.
Mark F
08-11-2014
Sorry guys and girls - double post.
irishfeen
08-11-2014
6 nations is going to be magnificent
CGG_12
08-11-2014
Wow I was very wrong about that

Superb performance
Eurostar
08-11-2014
Originally Posted by irishfeen:
“29-15 - I asked for a statement to world rugby ... that was a statement and more! ... absolutely fantastic. I'm telling you there is something special about this team.”

With 18 injuries to the squad too. It just shows how good a coach Schmidt is (and it's a decent bunch of players too)
Eurostar
08-11-2014
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Well done to the Irish and Scots on 2 strong wins.

Don't Wales always just lose to the Aussies - a real hoodoo!

Have to catch the England highlights tomorrow.”

At this rate, we could have a very competitive 6 Nations.

Looks like the home nations could put up a decent showing at the RWC next year too.
Cissy Fairfax
08-11-2014
Were either of the France or Italy matches on TV today?
bluesdiamond
08-11-2014
Originally Posted by Cissy Fairfax:
“Were either of the France or Italy matches on TV today?”

Rights are with Sky so assume they showed the games.
richie4eva
08-11-2014
Well done Scotland and Ireland

I make that 2-2 for this weekend

Disappointed yet again Wales couldn't hold on against Australia, they always seem to do us in the last few minutes every time

Spirited performance from England, but New Zealand just too good in the end
irishfeen
08-11-2014
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“At this rate, we could have a very competitive 6 Nations.

Looks like the home nations could put up a decent showing at the RWC next year too.”

I actually think with stadiums full of Irish fans, players returning from injury and with Schmidt on song we will go far, very far in the WC. This will be all but a home WC for us and I think we will make it count.
Eurostar
08-11-2014
Originally Posted by irishfeen:
“I actually think with stadiums full of Irish fans, players returning from injury and with Schmidt on song we will go far, very far in the WC. This will be all but a home WC for us and I think we will make it count.”

Schmidt certainly looks the best coach we've ever had. Won the 6 Nations at his first attempt, should have beaten NZ last year and now toppled SA with a severely under strength team.
Smiley433
08-11-2014
Was the drowning out of the Haka disrespectful?
Eurostar
09-11-2014
Originally Posted by Smiley433:
“Was the drowning out of the Haka disrespectful?”

There's two ways of looking at it. One argument would say that it is indeed disrespectful but another would say that there's no particular reason the England players and fans should allow themselves be intimidated by the Haka and simply listen to it in silence.
CGG_12
09-11-2014
Originally Posted by Smiley433:
“Was the drowning out of the Haka disrespectful?”

Lol are you having a laugh

Superb response by the English crowd. They shouldn't even be allowed do a haka
CGG_12
09-11-2014
Originally Posted by irishfeen:
“I actually think with stadiums full of Irish fans, players returning from injury and with Schmidt on song we will go far, very far in the WC. This will be all but a home WC for us and I think we will make it count.”

If we lose to France though it's NZ in a quarter and that's goodnight anyway sadly.

Bar the win this year vs the French we've an awful awful record against them including two batterings in the World Cup in the last 11 years.

While Ireland are in great form NZ England SA Australia and arguably France are more likely World Cup winners.

Hopefully Ireland put up a good 6n though I can't look past England to win a slam like they really should have done this year

You'd fancy Ireland to win the other 4 though you can never write off France
Smiley433
09-11-2014
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“There's two ways of looking at it. One argument would say that it is indeed disrespectful but another would say that there's no particular reason the England players and fans should allow themselves be intimidated by the Haka and simply listen to it in silence.”

Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Lol are you having a laugh

Superb response by the English crowd. They shouldn't even be allowed do a haka”

I agree with your points and I have seen a number of different responses by the Wallabies over the years after they have (respectfully) faced a Haka.

But for spectators on both sides who were perhaps looking forward to seeing and enjoying the spectacle that is the Haka "live" (some perhaps for the first time), I thought it was disrespectful by elements of the crowd to drown it out with some dirge.
Eurostar
09-11-2014
Originally Posted by Smiley433:
“I agree with your points and I have seen a number of different responses by the Wallabies over the years after they have (respectfully) faced a Haka.

But for spectators on both sides who were perhaps looking forward to seeing and enjoying the spectacle that is the Haka "live" (some perhaps for the first time), I thought it was disrespectful by elements of the crowd to drown it out with some dirge.”

I suppose yet another argument would say that it displays an inferiority complex if they feel the need to drown out the Haka.
tealady
09-11-2014
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Disappointed yet again Wales couldn't hold on against Australia, they always seem to do us in the last few minutes every time ”

The coaches have a bit to work on there as Wales' decision making is often poor in the last period. I don't know if it fatigue or less than optimal mental toughness.

As ever, the put in to the scrums was awful, the first one went in at 45 degrees! But hardly ever penalised (unlike lineouts).
sensoria
10-11-2014
I was at Twickenham not a big fan of drowning out the haka would love to hear it in full. Stadium atmosphere was a bit flat I thought.

The worst behaviour was the booing of Richie McCaw as he made his speech at the end. Really not something im impressed with.

As for England they played a great game first half then decided to change it in the second half to something ludicrous.
max99
10-11-2014
Interesting to see the difference in attitude between the England and Wales camp. England talked about wanting to beat the All Blacks and win all four of their Autumn matches. They also talked about wining the World Cup. Some will no doubt sneer at their 'arrogance', but it's that self-belief and confidence which is required to win big matches.

Meanwhile, Wales talked about winning two of their Autumn matches and getting out of the group stage of the World Cup. I know there's a need to be realistic, but we continue to set the bar low and then bang our heads on it.
CGG_12
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by max99:
“Interesting to see the difference in attitude between the England and Wales camp. England talked about wanting to beat the All Blacks and win all four of their Autumn matches. They also talked about wining the World Cup. Some will no doubt sneer at their 'arrogance', but it's that self-belief and confidence which is required to win big matches.

Meanwhile, Wales talked about winning two of their Autumn matches and getting out of the group stage of the World Cup. I know there's a need to be realistic, but we continue to set the bar low and then bang our heads on it.”

As it stands I can't see Wales getting out of that group but I feel sorry for ye. Wales are better than Samoa on every planet, very unlucky the draw was made 2 years ago (beggars belief) when Samoa just happened to sneak in the top 8 for a bit

Then again ye are due a win v Aus at some stage!!!
CGG_12
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by sensoria:
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As for England they played a great game first half then decided to change it in the second half to something ludicrous.”

Ye're riddled by injuries in fairness

Very impressed by Attwood. Ye're not stuck for quality second rows that's for sure.

If ye get ye're full 15 on the pitch ye can beat anyone (especially at home)

D Armitage

Yarde Tuilagi Burgess Ashton

Cipriani Dickson

Corbs Youngs Cole

Parling Launchbury

Croft S Armitage Haskell

That's a team that didn't feature at all Sat for various reasons in individual cases

That team itself would give the world cup a serious rattle
bluesdiamond
10-11-2014
With Ireland due to play Georgia,
Should the Six Nations play matches more against the tier 2 Europe nations? Georgia, Romania, Russia, Spain and Portugal?
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