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The All Purpose Rugby Union Thread (P2)
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Daydreamer13
04-02-2013
Originally Posted by Daydreamer13:
“Wales to beat Ireland
Scotland to beat England
France to beat Italy”

I'm too good at this predicting lark - a perfect 3 out of 3!
Mike Teevee
04-02-2013
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“I say

Wales 14 Ireland 26
England 14 Scotland 10
Italy 16 France 17”

2 out of 3 ain't bad

very happy for Italy, that was a great result. Genuinely not wishing harm on Scotland, but really want Italy to win next week. A strong 6 Nations where all the teams are dangerous makes for a good tournament.

I really enjoyed the England match on Saturday, despite the early try from Scotland. The atmosphere was great and it's nice that you can have some many fans mixed together and not fear that things are gonna kick off

That was a very good birthday
Marmite Baby
04-02-2013
Originally Posted by Ads:
“Best 6 nations opening weekend ever?”

No doubt about that - 3 great games with plenty of tries and attacking rugby. Very pleased to see Italy win playing a more expansive style.
sensoria
04-02-2013
Great opening weekend must say I am pleased for Ireland and O'Driscol that man is a competitor of the highest standard. Though not a scrum half........

Wales need to address playing rugby and not relying on monoliths to crash and bash their way over the gain line. If they meet a team that can tackle and rush they have no second option. Very one dimensional. I would be scared of Italy away if I were Welsh.

Ireland England game next week is massive, I wouldnt like to call it other than say my heart wants England to win. My head says Ireland.

England were a bit to lose for my liking, sometimes they need to settle it down a little bit and concentrate on a high pressure defence. As soon as they switch off their line speed they look vunerable. I still think the results are flatering them and there are some cracks which could be opened a performance in Ireland is essential if this is to be anything meaningful in perfomance.

Italy were epic and passionate they need to do it on the road. France were just bloody typicly French, playing teams they consider lesser teams they are lazy and stupid and look lost when the oppositon start to attack. Wales suffer from the same thing hopefully they will see what Italy did to France and not take them lightly.
sensoria
04-02-2013
Also Donnaca Ryan has to be the scariest man in rugby.
Dai13371
05-02-2013
As long as the Howler is in charge, I am going to think Wales will lose everything.

The man is out of his depth and more than likely lost the dressing room in the process of his complete joke of a coaching ability. From Grand slam to 10th in the IRB rankings.

That Welsh team damn well got a world Cup semi final and a grand slam and Ireland made them look like school boys on their first day of rugby.
sensoria
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by Dai13371:
“As long as the Howler is in charge, I am going to think Wales will lose everything.

The man is out of his depth and more than likely lost the dressing room in the process of his complete joke of a coaching ability. From Grand slam to 10th in the IRB rankings.

That Welsh team damn well got a world Cup semi final and a grand slam and Ireland made them look like school boys on their first day of rugby.”

I think Howely is a scapegoat for something more. A team with a gameplan dont become a bad team overnight because their coach is missing.
Dai13371
05-02-2013
Maybe, but what could it be?

Its looked like after BOD's score just after half time, they chucked away the gameplan and did their own thing. Came within two scores, one if they took the three points instead of a lineout. That game was winnable right up until Sam decided against kicking for goal.

Thing is Wales shouldn't be chasing games they should be building a good lead and protecting it. We saw how England did it against NZ and Scotland. Wales are more than capable.
platelet
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by platelet:
“Wales 12 Ireland 38
England 35 Scotland 12
Italy 22 France 29”

Well Ireland sleeping through the second half skewed my first one (not to take away from the wlesh comeback mind) but the essence of what I expected,
England Scotland pretty much as I expected
Italy fair play, didn't see that one coming.
sensoria
06-02-2013
Originally Posted by platelet:
“Well Ireland sleeping through the second half skewed my first one (not to take away from the wlesh comeback mind) but the essence of what I expected,
England Scotland pretty much as I expected
Italy fair play, didn't see that one coming.”

Italy women won against France on saturday as well, I think their first 6 nations win and it was against one of the teams that would have had title hopes.
platelet
06-02-2013
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“Italy women won against France on saturday as well, I think their first 6 nations win and it was against one of the teams that would have had title hopes.”

That's quite promising really. I love watching the women's games (when they deign to show them) but really England have no competition.

Losing one game to Wales in 2009 I think gives them the title seven years in a row with six grand slams. You'd really want it to be more competative than that.

Mind you I'd kill for those results in the mens game
sensoria
06-02-2013
Originally Posted by platelet:
“That's quite promising really. I love watching the women's games (when they deign to show them) but really England have no competition.

Losing one game to Wales in 2009 I think gives them the title seven years in a row with six grand slams. You'd really want it to be more competative than that.

Mind you I'd kill for those results in the mens game ”

Its actually quite a good game to watch, the teams very rarely kick so they run it from all over the park.

This season is a real challenge as their entire first choice backs are competing in the 7's so are not being used in the 6 nations squad, in the build up to the 7's world cup in Moscow. They are also missing their first and second choice opensides as well. The strenght in depth is quality.
david1955
07-02-2013
I only got one of the three results correct last week , so I'm hoping for a better prediction this weekend ..

Scotland 11-19 Italy

France 51 - 9 Wales

Ireland 22- 18 England
Mike Teevee
07-02-2013
Originally Posted by david1955:
“I only got one of the three results correct last week , so I'm hoping for a better prediction this weekend ..

Scotland 11-19 Italy

France 51 - 9 Wales

Ireland 22- 18 England”

I say....

Scotland 14 Italy 15
France 25 Wales 18
Ireland 22 England 25 - I hope
david1955
07-02-2013
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“I say....

Scotland 14 Italy 15
France 25 Wales 18
Ireland 22 England 25 - I hope ”

I also hope that England beat Ireland, but we do have a terrible " cock up" record. And , being half Scottish I hope the lads will beat Italy. My result prediction for France v Wales may be a bit extreme , but sometimes France have one of those days where everything clicks
Mike Teevee
07-02-2013
Originally Posted by david1955:
“I also hope that England beat Ireland, but we do have a terrible " cock up" record. And , being half Scottish I hope the lads will beat Italy. My result prediction for France v Wales may be a bit extreme , but sometimes France have one of those days where everything clicks”

well I did wonder about your France score

I want Italy to win, because it would be great for the competition. Having said that Euan Murray is one of my favourite players (even if he's not as good as once was), so wouldn't mind Scots winning

I think it will be close between us and Ireland, hope that we can out muscle them again at scrum. Though I guess they've learnt from last year's clash
Mike Teevee
08-02-2013
England Team
Quote:
“Goode; Ashton, Barritt, Twelvetrees, Brown; Farrell, B Youngs; Marler, T Youngs, Cole, Launchbury, Parling, Haskell, Robshaw, Wood.

Replacements: Tuilagi, Flood, Care, M Vunipola, Hartley, Wilson, Lawes, Waldrom. ”

Tuilagi on the bench, good decision I reckon
platelet
08-02-2013
I'd say....

Scotland 12 Italy 24
France 40 Wales 21
Ireland 21 England 39
Frood
08-02-2013
Originally Posted by platelet:
“I'd say....

Scotland 12 Italy 24
France 40 Wales 21
Ireland 21 England 39”

If those scores happened I'd be dancing round the room.
Marmite Baby
08-02-2013
Originally Posted by david1955:
“I only got one of the three results correct last week , so I'm hoping for a better prediction this weekend ..

Scotland 11-19 Italy

France 51 - 9 Wales

Ireland 22- 18 England”

You really don't like Wales. My predictions:

Scotland 15-12 Italy

France 27-17 Wales

Ireland 13-18 England
Mike Teevee
08-02-2013
Ireland unchanged

Quote:
“R Kearney; C Gilroy, B O'Driscoll, G D'Arcy, S Zebo; J Sexton, C Murray; C Healy, R Best, M Ross; M McCarthy, D Ryan; P O'Mahony, S O'Brien, J Heaslip.

Replacements: S Cronin, D Kilcoyne, D Fitzpatrick, D O'Callaghan, C Henry, E Reddan, R O'Gara, K Earls. ”

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“ Scotland : 15-Stuart Hogg, 14-Sean Maitland, 13-Sean Lamont, 12-Matt Scott, 11-Tim Visser, 10-Ruaridh Jackson, 9-Greig Laidlaw; 1-Ryan Grant, 2-Ross Ford, 3-Euan Murray, 4-Richie Gray, 5-Jim Hamilton, 6-Robert Harley, 7-Kelly Brown (capt), 8-Johnnie Beattie

Replacements: 16-Pat MacArthur, 17-Moray Low, 18-Geoff Cross, 19-Alastair Kellock, 20-David Denton, 21-Henry Pyrgos, 22-Duncan Weir, 23-Max Evans

Italy : 15-Andrea Masi, 14-Giovanbattista Venditti, 13-Tommaso Benvenuti, 12-Gonzalo Canale, 11-Luke McLean, 10-Luciano Orquera, 9-Tobias Botes; 1-Andrea Lo Cicero, 2-Leonardo Ghiraldini, 3-Martin Castrogiovanni, 4-Quintin Geldenhuys, 5-Francesco Minto, 6-Alessandro Zanni, 7-Simone Favaro, 8-Sergio Parisse (capt)

Replacements: 16-Davide Giazzon, 17-Alberto De Marchi, 18-Lorenzo Cittadini, 19-Antonio Pavanello, 20-Paul Derbyshire, 21-Kris Burton, 22-Gonzalo Garcia ”

Quote:
“ FRANCE: 15-Huget, 14-Fofana, 13-Bastareaud, 12-Mermoz, 11-Fall, 10-Michalak, 9-Machenaud; 1-Forestier, 2-Szarzewski, 3-Mas, 4-Suta, 5-Maestri, 6-Ouedraogo, 7-Dusautoir, 8-Picamoles.

Replacements : 16-Kayser, 17-Debaty, 18-Ducalon, 19-Taofifenua, 20-Chouly, 21-Parra, 22-Trinh-Duc, 23-Fritz.

WALES : 15-Halfpenny, 14-Cuthbert, 13-Davies, 12-Roberts, 11-North, 10-Biggar, 9-Phillips; 1-Jenkins, 2-Hibbard, 3-A Jones, 4-Coombs, 5-I Evans, 6-R Jones (captain), 7-Tipuric, 8-Faletau.

Replacements : 16-K Owens, 17-P James, 18-Mitchell, 19-Reed, 20-Shingler, 21-L Williams, 22-Hook, 23-S Williams ”

Ads
09-02-2013
Sorry Scotland but hoping for an Italy win. Would be a huge boost for the 6 Nations to have a more competitive Italy, plus will help the sport develop over there.
ff999
09-02-2013
Is it my eyes, or does the Scotland change strip make it more difficult to see the difference between them than if they had worn their normal navy blue?
Sky_Tech
09-02-2013
Who chose the kit colours today for Scotland v Italy? Both sides look nearly the same to me! Not even different shades of blue.
david1955
09-02-2013
Originally Posted by Sky_Tech:
“Who chose the kit colours today for Scotland v Italy? Both sides look nearly the same to me! Not even different shades of blue.”

Yes !! Exactly the same shade of blue, it's good job it;s not muddy or you would have no chance telling them apart .

I know this has been said a million times before , but would the director not switch camera angles when someone is approaching the line. You can show us all the different angles in replays , but please not in live play .
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