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#4051 |
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Ireland weren't a very good side, it was England that were very poor. It didn't help the referee giving Ireland a penalty every 5 minutes either.
France will probably let the English down again in the last week, like they did last year letting a poor Irish team win in Paris just to spite us. |
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#4052 |
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Oh, I remember that piece of spiteful sour grapes being spouted last year. There's nothing worse than a sore loser.
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#4053 |
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I really wish they wouldn't keep interspersing the tournament with two weekends of no action. It drags it out and spoils it, I'd like to see it over 5 consecutive weeks.
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Funny that because I seem to remember France scoring an illegal try last year and they were pretty disappointed that the try at the end wasn't (rightly) allowed. Doesn't sound like letting them win to me.
Letting Ireland win
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#4054 |
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Leaving Wales still in with a chance? Pfft! Would rather see England win the Championship than Wales.
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The 4 weeks in a row that Ireland ended up playing in 2012 certainly seemed to take its toll on them in the final game.
And yes I seem to remember cursing Scotland in the game before because they couldn't hang on against France to rule them out of still being in with a chance on the final day. |
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#4056 |
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Would rather see England win the championship than Ireland! Sore losers, it's all down to the referee apparently!
Yes a small minority reflects a whole nations' outlook |
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#4057 |
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Would rather see England win the championship than Ireland! Sore losers, it's all down to the referee apparently!
And yes I remember plenty of anti Irish feeling due to Alain Rolland. |
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#4058 |
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It's nothing to do with today, if I'd been watching the tournament opener (I was out that evening), I'd have been cheering England.
And yes I remember plenty of anti Irish feeling due to Alain Rolland. |
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#4059 |
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It's nothing to do with today, if I'd been watching the tournament opener (I was out that evening), I'd have been cheering England.
And yes I remember plenty of anti Irish feeling due to Alain Rolland. I wouldn't be offended if I was Welsh, I'd actually take it as a compliment. It reflects a great, intense rivalry which is continuing to develop. There is still huge respect between both teams also England Ireland just doesn't have that spice anymore Also England are actually a pretty likeable team overall. Lancaster strikes me as a gent as does Robshaw. Very few dislikeable players. Comparing to that awful 2011 team Gatland is shall we say a divisive character |
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Breathtaking performance from both sides which left me knackered just watching. These guys are immensely fit!
Everyone seems to be concentrating on who will win out of Wales, England and Ireland, however if France beat Italy by 40 points this afternoon they could overtake England with a 5 point winning margin in the final game! England will have the hardest final match of the three and if Wales can beat Italy by 30 points I think they'll have it in the bag
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#4061 |
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France only have one win compared with the others 3 wins, so they would all have to lose which seems a bit unlikely.
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This game is a bit humdrum. Does Italy have any decent kickers?
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Very poor first half in the Italy/France game.
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2nd half not much better; just a slow French steamroller affair.
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Breathtaking performance from both sides which left me knackered just watching. These guys are immensely fit!
Everyone seems to be concentrating on who will win out of Wales, England and Ireland, however if France beat Italy by 40 points this afternoon they could overtake England with a 5 point winning margin in the final game! England will have the hardest final match of the three and if Wales can beat Italy by 30 points I think they'll have it in the bag ![]() |
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France only have one win compared with the others 3 wins, so they would all have to lose which seems a bit unlikely.
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I was only referring to France overtaking England as yes it is very unlikely that both Wales and Ireland will lose (though the French will know what they have to do, being the last match of the tournament!)
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Well that match was a bit of a chore, hope next week's final games are better.
As things stand, I fancy Ireland's chances most. |
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Well that match was a bit of a chore, hope next week's final games are better.
As things stand, I fancy Ireland's chances most. As a Welsh fan I can't wait, because if we get the 30+ winning margin all three games become must watch matches! |
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I was only referring to France overtaking England as yes it is very unlikely that both Wales and Ireland will lose (though the French will know what they have to do, being the last match of the tournament!)
Yes 8 points. Bit worrying that England show far more imagination and cutting edge than the French back line! Gaelic flair has had the life choked out of it. |
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Wales will be very confident of putting 30 points at least on that Italy side
They have absolutely nothing to lose, they can go all out for tries from the off. Expect them to decline any 3 points opportunity, it really will not be pretty for Italy What a weekend in store. England don't have much to worry about in terms of losing the match but how much they win by is the question. They have the massive advantage of playing last |
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Well that match was a bit of a chore, hope next week's final games are better.
As things stand, I fancy Ireland's chances most. Wales have that advantage of knowing how many points they need to win by at least. From the first minute they can afford to really throw caution to the wind and go all out. I expect them to be far more clinical than England were yesterday England are the rightful favourites though. France are a shadow of their former selves and have an awful record in Twickenham anyway. England know exactly what they need to do. If they need tries they are well able to get them, if they need to play it tight, they won't need a second invitation. Nowell's try is probably enough to secure them the tournament It will be interesting though. Especially if Wales complete their side of the bargain |
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Its a shame that Scotland and Italy have become the whipping boys for the other teams .
Should the competition revert to the 5 nations and Italy be left out in the interests of fairness ? Don't know what to make of Scotland . Is their problem that they haven't got a big enough pool of players to choose from in club rugby . I don't recall seeing any Scottish club sides participating in the European club competitions . |
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#4074 |
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Its a shame that Scotland and Italy have become the whipping boys for the other teams .
Should the competition revert to the 5 nations and Italy be left out in the interests of fairness ? Don't know what to make of Scotland . Is their problem that they haven't got a big enough pool of players to choose from in club rugby . I don't recall seeing any Scottish club sides participating in the European club competitions . Why should Italy be left out? They beat Scotland away this year. Fine they didn't win any match last year but they won 2 in 2013 |
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Wow, what a game on Saturday afternoon (night time for me here), Ireland vs Wales was fantastic. As a neutral (obviously wanting a Wales win), I was so happy to see a game played to that level. Wales' defence was fantastic, the hits were so physical and the discipline incredible (a few Irish asking a few too many questions of the ref for my liking).
The Irish butchered a few chances but fair play to Wales, they took advantage of Sexton having a bad day and came out on top. England looked fantastic for 60 minutes until they got a 1 on 1 or 2 on 1... I don't think I've seen a team butcher so many chances after having clean breaks. Hopefully they can take the positives away and make some better decisions next week. All that said, credit to Scotland who after 15 minutes of being torn apart came right back into it and were rightfully in the lead. Next week I think England will be slight favorites as they'll know what they need to do, they also look like they could put up some big points. |
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