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The All Purpose Rugby Union Thread (P2)
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platelet
09-02-2013
Sweet boos; poor game; dire pitch; but right result so nice to see Wales break the losing streak.

WTF has happened to France mind?
richie4eva
09-02-2013
Absolutely vicious booing at the final whistle

France at the bottom of the table, who saw that after two matches

Depending on the result in Dublin tomorrow, it's Englands or Irelands to lose now
richie4eva
09-02-2013
Not the best of games with an absolutely dire pitch, but a win is a win
tealady
09-02-2013
Originally Posted by vaughan6477:
“George Clancy shows that he is to reffing scrums, what a heatwave is to Eskimoes.”

LOL, yes it was "well, I gave it that way last time, so it has to be the other way this time."

Halfpenny MoM?? Was it for the conversion?
Ryan JOnes for his defence work was more worthy.

France for the wooden spoon??
tealady
09-02-2013
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“Will Howley recognise that for the past 70 minutes Mike Phillips, as usual, slows every passage of play down. Doubtless Phillips will play in the next match for another slow 70 minutes. ”

What happened to the 'play in Wales to play for Wales' policy?
Marmite Baby
09-02-2013
Originally Posted by tealady:
“LOL, yes it was "well, I gave it that way last time, so it has to be the other way this time."

Halfpenny MoM?? Was it for the conversion?
Ryan JOnes for his defence work was more worthy.

France for the wooden spoon??”

Were you watching the same match as me? He was superb in attack, defence & kicking game. With Kearney and Hogg, British Lions are spoilt for top-quality full-backs.
tealady
09-02-2013
Originally Posted by Marmite Baby:
“Were you watching the same match as me? He was superb in attack, defence & kicking game. With Kearney and Hogg, British Lions are spoilt for top-quality full-backs.”

Didn't think he had many opportunities in attack. No more defence than anyone else (no last ditch tackles in the left hand corner!) and less than the forwards. Kicked well, but not outstanding apart from conversion.
Stunty
09-02-2013
Originally Posted by tealady:
“What happened to the 'play in Wales to play for Wales' policy?”

Don't think it was ever the 'policy', however it is a fact that the ptb see more of the players if they play in the country. Many of the Welsh players playing in France don't seem to play regularly in every game, which they would if they played at 'home'.

I would gladly see the elbow given to a players playing in France if it meant Mike Phillips was dropped. I really don't rate him at all and I do feel that Howley and Co have their rose tinted spectacles in when it comes to him ..... either that or they are selecting him to give him a chance of proving himself for the Lions. The last two matches have proved that he just does not deliver quick enough ball to get the backs or the forwards cross that all important 'gain line'.
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09-02-2013
Be interesting to see how Ireland v England plays out tomorrow. The English media seem to be getting confident again, but this Ireland team at home is still a big task.
ff999
09-02-2013
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“LLoyd Williams on the field for about one and a half mintes, quick ball from the rucks, and try.


Will Howley recognise that for the past 70 minutes Mike Phillips, as usual, slows every passage of play down. Doubtless Phillips will play in the next match for another slow 70 minutes. ”

Everyone at our rugby club pinned Phillips as a weakness. I'd never noticed, but he takes a little two step before each pass. Once it was pointed out to me, I couldn't miss it each time. Gives the opposition a fraction of time to get closer. If I can spot it, God knows why Howley can't .
Kierenj
09-02-2013
Originally Posted by ff999:
“Everyone at our rugby club pinned Phillips as a weakness. I'd never noticed, but he takes a little two step before each pass. Once it was pointed out to me, I couldn't miss it each time. Gives the opposition a fraction of time to get closer. If I can spot it, God knows why Howley can't .”

No doubt he does but don't forget that was the thing to do about 8 years or so ago... the game was different then with 9's playing like 10's (off the back of Tactical Decision Maker role that became popular)... so they were all taking 2 steps to look where to go, one of their runners, or out to 10 for them to decide. Harry Ellis did the same as did a lot of Englands god-awful 9s back then.

When you saw Howler celebrate today he looked more like a fan than a coach... a lot of my Welsh mates have accepted he isn't going anywhere during the 6N but are hoping Gatland bins him when they are back from Aus.
sensoria
10-02-2013
Originally Posted by platelet:
“That's quite promising really. I love watching the women's games (when they deign to show them) but really England have no competition.

Losing one game to Wales in 2009 I think gives them the title seven years in a row with six grand slams. You'd really want it to be more competative than that.

Mind you I'd kill for those results in the mens game ”

Well the shock of the weekend, Ireland Women beat England for the first time in their history, 25-0. England havent been nilled since 2004 and havent lost since November 2011.
platelet
10-02-2013
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“Well the shock of the weekend, Ireland Women beat England for the first time in their history, 25-0. England havent been nilled since 2004 and havent lost since November 2011.”

I'm terrified of watching the men's game now, the rugby gods are in such a strange mood this weekend
david1955
10-02-2013
Originally Posted by david1955:
“I only got one of the three results correct last week , so I'm hoping for a better prediction this weekend ..

Scotland 11-19 Italy

France 51 - 9 Wales

Ireland 22- 18 England”

I'll be delighted if I can make it three out of three, and then perhaps retire from the prediction game
platelet
10-02-2013
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“Well the shock of the weekend, Ireland Women beat England for the first time in their history, 25-0. England havent been nilled since 2004 and havent lost since November 2011.”

Ah, perhaps they can be excused...they were playing without their first string for the entire competition and made 8 changes to the side that thumped Scotland.

Originally Posted by BBC:
“The entire backline - including captain Katy McLean - that started the first and third Test wins in the autumn series whitewash of New Zealand will play no part.
Star flanker Maggie Alphonsi and fellow back-rowers Heather Fisher and Marlie Packer are also among a 17-strong group concentrating on the shorter version of the game.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/21109983
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10-02-2013
Ball appears to be coated in olive oil so far in Ireland V England
Stunty
10-02-2013
Originally Posted by ff999:
“Everyone at our rugby club pinned Phillips as a weakness. I'd never noticed, but he takes a little two step before each pass. Once it was pointed out to me, I couldn't miss it each time. Gives the opposition a fraction of time to get closer. If I can spot it, God knows why Howley can't .”

The more I see Phillips the more he irritates me. The Welsh game is stagnant with him controlling the game like he does.

Dwayne Peel, Tavis Knoyle and Lloyd Williams are better scrum halves. It is quite unbelievable that James Hook cannot get into a team that previously lost eight matches in a row.

Look at the Ireland scrum half today, he can't get the ball away quick enough, when it comes to the back of the ruck.
tealady
10-02-2013
Two good defences, lots of rain, yet another pitch cutting up stalemate. Ireland should be ahead due to territory. Earls looks the most dangerous player.
Ref has given up on the scrum.
misslibertine
10-02-2013
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“I would gladly see the elbow given to a players playing in France if it meant Mike Phillips was dropped. I really don't rate him at all and I do feel that Howley and Co have their rose tinted spectacles in when it comes to him ..... either that or they are selecting him to give him a chance of proving himself for the Lions. The last two matches have proved that he just does not deliver quick enough ball to get the backs or the forwards cross that all important 'gain line'.”

Couldn't agree with you more. The only "fans" I know who rate him are the girls in glittery cowboy hats who think he's "mega fit"

He's like a petulant toddler, and I'd be glad to see the back of him sooner rather than later.
tealady
10-02-2013
Surprising win for England. 6-3 to England during the yellow card which was unexpected. Not sure what happened to Ireland in hte last 15 mins. Lack of desire?
Eurostar
10-02-2013
Strange match....the heavy rain led to a lot of handling errors.

I thought England shaded it though and showed a lot of composure (Ireland were a bit unlucky to lose two of their best players early on, but even that might not have made a difference).
david1955
10-02-2013
Really fantastic win for England. Massive effort all round . I haven't the faintest idea why Haskell was sin binned.
irishfeen
10-02-2013
Well done England, outperformed Ireland today and their first win in Dublin in 10 years....Grand slam is not beyond them now. Great to see a huge number of English fans travelling too.
tinman
10-02-2013
So easy.
vaughan6477
10-02-2013
Well done England. Defended very well and took their chances.

I'm still confident of Wales upsetting their Grandslam chances on the final day in Cardiff though.We've some key players to come back.

Bring it on
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