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The All Purpose Rugby Union Thread (P2)
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Michael_Eve
21-03-2015
I like Guscott. My mate thinks he used to be biased against Wales then improved as a pundit but can't say I ever noticed, really. Then, I used to dislike Brian Moore, but now think he's very good. Must be mellowing in my old age!

Inverdale is a biased t*t, though.
tealady
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“They made yards scarily easily at times today

Parra
Tales

Huget
mermoz
Fofana
Fickou
Dulin

Looks a scary prospect if they get them all out”

Yes, which is why I don't understand michael_vaughan's earlier comment.
CGG_12
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by tealady:
“Yes, which is why I don't understand michael_vaughan's earlier comment.”

Which was that?
Cissy Fairfax
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“I'll take a stab at team of tournament for the craic

Hogg (very tough call here, 1/2P very unlucky)
Liam Williams
JJ
Henshaw
Nowell

Ford
Murray (ben Youngs so unlucky)

McGrath
Best
Lee
AWJ
POC
Dusautoir
Warburton
Billy V”

Parisse was phenomenal, even by his standards in a couple of games, the Irish back row have been too. Billy V was probably the least effective of the English back row, although today was excellent.

I think the full backs of every team have been outstanding. No idea what would happen if you had to pick a Lions squad and have Halfpenny, Kearney, Brown and Hogg to choose from. Then add to that, Wales improved when Halfpenny went off too.
Eurostar
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Where the fluck was this all tournament by the 3 teams? Fine Wales played mighty v Ireland but seriously the attacking prowess shown by all 3 (and France) today was breathtaking

Rugby seriously has the potential to be the best spectator sport, but is ruined by teams playing conservatively”

This has been one of the major criticisms of modern rugby. Teams playing too cautiously and conservatively and to a rigid system, meaning far fewer tries.
Eurostar
21-03-2015
One good thing about there being no Grand Slam winner is that England, Ireland and Wales can head into the RWC with the pressure off and with no heightened expectations.....it's great that they're all be talked about as contenders, with none of them being singled out for extra attention.
CGG_12
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by Cissy Fairfax:
“Parisse was phenomenal, even by his standards in a couple of games, the Irish back row have been too. Billy V was probably the least effective of the English back row, although today was excellent.

I think the full backs of every team have been outstanding. No idea what would happen if you had to pick a Lions squad and have Halfpenny, Kearney, Brown and Hogg to choose from. Then add to that, Wales improved when Halfpenny went off too.”

You're right! How good was Billy V today tho!!

Kearney would miss out tbh
irishfeen
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“One good thing about there being no Grand Slam winner is that England, Ireland and Wales can head into the RWC with the pressure off and with no heightened expectations.....it's great that they're all be talked about as contenders, with none of them being singled out for extra attention.”

Yep, Ireland enter the RWC as 6 nations winners but in reality expectation is on England and Wales beating us means people will think we of course are very beatable.. Don't think any of the Southern Hemisphere big boys will fancy playing us - Australia and South Africa lost in November to us and Ireland should have beat New Zealand in Dublin the last time we played.

This RWC is basically a home WC for England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales - it will be a great spectacle.
tealady
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Which was that?”

Originally Posted by Michael_Vaughan:
“I'm still laughing at Sir Clive calling France a good team though.”

There would be maybe one or two changes in the forwards. Nakaitaci was pretty handy and Antonio off the bench is scary.
I have a strong suspicion that if a Welsh prop had scored the try Debaty did, then the view would have been rather different.
Mike Teevee
21-03-2015
Finally home from Twickers.

First thing first, well done Ireland. They did what they had to do and the effort put in by Wales before actually was a good thing, as it forced Ireland to keep on the front foot.

Some of England's decision making was terrible to today, chief among them the endless kicking. We did very well to get the tries we did, but man oh man were we poor defensively. Considering everyone in the know wrote off this French this as the 'worst ever' it's a credit to them that they took the game to England.

Not sure where this leaves NH teams heading into the World Cup as you can make a case for all the teams, which the exception of Italy.

It's going to be an interesting six months.
gemmaovwales03
21-03-2015
Halfpenny seems to get a lot of knocks to the head while on Wales duty. Another big knock again today.
irishfeen
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by gemmaovwales03:
“Halfpenny seems to get a lot of knocks to the head while on Wales duty. Another big knock again today.”

He tackled with the wrong shoulder for some unknown reason....
irishfeen
21-03-2015
Wooden Spoon for Scotland shouldn't be overlooked - sad day again for such a proud rugby nation..
Cheetah666
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by irishfeen:
“Wooden Spoon for Scotland shouldn't be overlooked - sad day again for such a proud rugby nation..”

Meh, we've all been through a period like that. Scotland will come back again.
irishfeen
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“Meh, we've all been through a period like that. Scotland will come back again.”

Seems as if professional rugby hasn't been massively successful for the Scots ... Love to see the Scots up there winning it again.
Michael_Vaughan
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by irishfeen:
“He tackled with the wrong shoulder for some unknown reason....”

All caused by Dan Lydiate missing the first up tackle on the Italian No8.Lee was having to cover across from an awkward angle and stumbled slightly into the hit.

Stupidly brave is the best way to put it.Puts the team before his own safety and stops a likely try.
Michael_Vaughan
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by tealady:
“Yes, which is why I don't understand michael_vaughan's earlier comment.”

Which comment?

The one I made about them being incredibly poor but probably still able to inexplicably get to a World Cup final again.

Or that Sir Clive described them as a good side after losing three six nations games.One where they concede over 50 points.

St Andre has had four seasons in charge now and there's been no consistent improvement.
Michael_Vaughan
21-03-2015
I have seen it mentioned that Sir Clive's praise of the French may be to do with him fancying their coaching job.

Stranger things have happened!!
Michael_Eve
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by Michael_Vaughan:
“All caused by Dan Lydiate missing the first up tackle on the Italian No8.Lee was having to cover across from an awkward angle and stumbled slightly into the hit.

Stupidly brave is the best way to put it.Puts the team before his own safety and stops a likely try.”

That's why he's such a brilliant player for Wales. Brave as heck, despite only being a shortarse.

(Jesting. He's taller than me. And a lot wider too!)
Espresso
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by Michael_Vaughan:
“I have seen it mentioned that Sir Clive's praise of the French may be to do with him fancying their coaching job.

Stranger things have happened!!”

Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
And to be right, how many teams would turn down a coach with proven World Cup winning strategies on his CV?
Bahtat
21-03-2015
Jonathan Davies is fluent in Welsh. That means he's learnt that as an adult being from the south the sad tit.
gomezz
21-03-2015
That is an excellent demonstration explaining in part why the Welsh did not survive (or even ever exist?) as a separate nation.
irishfeen
21-03-2015
Think Ronan O'Gara almost speaks for the Irish nation tonight -

" Thank you lads .. Very proud to be irish tonight. Very proud of the new generation. Unbelievably consistent . Well done @RTErugby . 👍👍#POC"
jeffiner1892
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by gemmaovwales03:
“Halfpenny seems to get a lot of knocks to the head while on Wales duty. Another big knock again today.”

Sexton gets a fierce amount of them for Ireland too.
Michael_Eve
22-03-2015
Originally Posted by Bahtat:
“Jonathan Davies is fluent in Welsh. That means he's learnt that as an adult being from the south the sad tit.”

Born in Carmarthenshire, butt. Welsh speakers make up about 40% there even today, never mind when JD was born. He did not go to College to learn it!

Seinfeld-mode: Not that there's anything wrong with that if he did.
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