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Manu out of RWC after conviction for assaulting a police officer
He'll be missed by England, but I think RFU and Lancaster have done the right thing. |
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Manu out of RWC after conviction for assaulting a police officer
He'll be missed by England, but I think RFU and Lancaster have done the right thing. |
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Manu out of RWC after conviction for assaulting a police officer
He'll be missed by England, but I think RFU and Lancaster have done the right thing. I guess we're probably looking at Barritt and JJ, or will farrell get the nod? |
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Manu out of RWC after conviction for assaulting a police officer
He'll be missed by England, but I think RFU and Lancaster have done the right thing. As other said, on the positive side our centres actually looked creative in the 6N so we have options. |
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Amusing watching Richard Cockerill 'not condoning what Manu has done' by pretty much doing exactly that when interviewed earlier.
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Don't showboat.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-u...linkname=wales |
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Can someone explain the Champion's Cup play off that Gloucester have to do to me?
Do they have to beat both Connaught AND whichever Top 14 side finishes 7th? Do either of those sides just have to win one match? |
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Can someone explain the Champion's Cup play off that Gloucester have to do to me?
Do they have to beat both Connaught AND whichever Top 14 side finishes 7th? Do either of those sides just have to win one match? From Wiki: The 7th place team in the Aviva Premiership will play a single match against the 8th placed team (or highest placed team not already qualified) in the Pro12. Home advantage in the match will be decided by a coin toss. In the event that the 2014–15 European Rugby Challenge Cup winner is an Aviva Premiership club, and that this club has not automatically qualified for the Champions Cup, it will take the place allocated to the 7th place team in the Premiership. As it transpired, Gloucester – who were ninth in the Aviva Premiership – qualified for the play-off, having beaten Edinburgh 19–13 in the Challenge Cup final. The winner of that game will host the 7th placed team in the French Top 14. The winner of that game will be considered the winner of the play-off and qualify for the Champions Cup. It IS slightly unfair that the English/Celtic team would have to play 2 games to the French's 1, but then that's the nature of European Rugby nowadays. |
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Cheers, it does seem a bit weighted in favour of the French side.
Like they need any more help in getting into Europe, with their bigger salary cap and abundance of overseas players. |
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Cheers, it does seem a bit weighted in favour of the French side.
Like they need any more help in getting into Europe, with their bigger salary cap and abundance of overseas players. |
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They don't exactly tend to over-exert themselves on the road though.
---- Elsewhere..... Quins confirm Jamie Roberts signing Interesting move, especially as Gatland wanted him back in Wales. Very good signing for Harlequins. |
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That is true, I guess Gloucester will be hoping to win that coin toss
---- Elsewhere..... Quins confirm Jamie Roberts signing Interesting move, especially as Gatland wanted him back in Wales. Very good signing for Harlequins. Also interesting to see he seemingly has a release clause in his contract. With all these new signings I do wonder whether Quins can afford the fine, or indeed if they'll step sanctions up having already fined Saints over North. |
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#4763 |
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I think they have won the toss already .I'm, sure BT were advertising the game being at Kingsholm.
Also interesting to see he seemingly has a release clause in his contract. With all these new signings I do wonder whether Quins can afford the fine, or indeed if they'll step sanctions up having already fined Saints over North. There won't be much effect this year because of the World Cup - no tests outside windows or extra autumn int's. |
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Perhaps the (pathetic, punitive, childish) fines will come out of his wages. How much are they?
There won't be much effect this year because of the World Cup - no tests outside windows or extra autumn int's. And they're hardly pathetic. Why do Wales think they should have access to their players for free when England have to compensate the clubs? Out-of-window matches are a privilege and not a right. |
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England training squad announced Quote:
England squad in full: Chris Ashton (Saracens), Dave Attwood (Bath), Brad Barritt (Saracens), Kieran Brookes (Newcastle Falcons), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints), Sam Burgess (Bath), Danny Care (Harlequins), Danny Cipriani (Sale), Calum Clark (Northampton Saints), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Alex Corbisiero (Northampton Saints), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints), Kyle Eastmond (Bath), Nick Easter (Harlequins), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath), Alex Goode (Saracens), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), Jonathan Joseph (Bath), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), George Kruis (Saracens), Matt Kvesic (Gloucester), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Jonny May (Gloucester), Stephen Myler (Northampton Saints), Ben Morgan (Gloucester), Matt Mullan (Wasps), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Ed Slater (Leicester Tigers), David Strettle (Saracens), Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Anthony Watson (Bath), Rob Webber (Bath), Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens), David Wilson (Bath), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints), Marland Yarde (Harlequins), Ben Youngs (Leicester), Tom Youngs (Leicester).
No Armitage or Abendanon
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also no Wade
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also no Wade
Really pleased to see Ashton back in, and very happy that Itoje is in the squad, interested to see how he goes training with the elite squad. Burgess is a sensible addition as well, the coaches will get more of a chance to see him around the best England has to offer and it'll either expose the huge holes in his game or highlight that he's integrated faster than they thought he would. |
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I'm pretty content with the squad to be honest. No glaring omissions (other than the French based players but that's not really a shock).
Really pleased to see Ashton back in, and very happy that Itoje is in the squad, interested to see how he goes training with the elite squad. Burgess is a sensible addition as well, the coaches will get more of a chance to see him around the best England has to offer and it'll either expose the huge holes in his game or highlight that he's integrated faster than they thought he would. Maybe a bit early for Itoje to make the squad proper but he is going to be one hell of a player down the road |
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David Strettle really is in serious form
Definitely could be a bolter to make starting team in September |
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Great win away by Sarries
Immense game by Owen Faz. Stuart Lancaster will have some headache, though he may well play him 12 |
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Great win away by Sarries
Immense game by Owen Faz. Stuart Lancaster will have some headache, though he may well play him 12 |
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Anyone see the Bath game? Really interesting to see Burgess starting these big games. I think Ford answered Farrell pretty well on Sunday. Nice to have 2 very good 10s at the minute, opposite to NZ.
Jonny May really put himself into contention also, with a towering display on Sunday v Connacht. I don't envy Lancaster at all there will be some massive decisions to be made Right now are B. Youngs, Hartley, B.Vunipola and Robshaw the only actual guaranteed starters if fit? Lawes, Dan Cole and JJ you'd have to imagine are pretty much assured though I honestly think based on this season Goode should be given the 15 shirt, he's been immense and will probably end it with a winners medal |
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London Irish may play St Patrick's Day game in US Quote:
Under the deal, the arrangement to play one game per season in the lucrative US market could last for three years.
Interesting if it happens.
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Dylan Hartley cited again
Oh dear oh dear |
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Dylan Hartley cited again
Oh dear oh dear Tbf to Dylan there didn't seem much in it at the time, problem is his disciplinary record is so bad. His RWC place is under threat, it's like the Lions tour all over again. |
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