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The All Purpose Rugby Union Thread (P2)
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CGG_12
04-01-2016
Schalk Burger joins Sarries! They are going to be even scarier next season if possible!
Kierenj
05-01-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Schalk Burger joins Sarries! They are going to be even scarier next season if possible!”

Do you think? I'd be surprised if he manages more than 60 minutes every 2 weeks. No doubt the man brings a world of experience which Itoje et al will benefit from hugely but I think he'll be more like when Schmidt came. Great to see him in the Prem though.
CGG_12
05-01-2016
Originally Posted by Kierenj:
“Do you think? I'd be surprised if he manages more than 60 minutes every 2 weeks. No doubt the man brings a world of experience which Itoje et al will benefit from hugely but I think he'll be more like when Schmidt came. Great to see him in the Prem though.”

Ah here steady on, Burger still has plenty to give at the top level! extremely fit and agile and was SA's best player in the World Cup for my reckoning. He's only 32 and is a young 32 at that- he basically missed the whole of 2012/2013 so has pretty much relaunched his career again

you make sound like a him washed up has-been in his 40s! I'd go as far as saying it wouldn't overly shock me to see him at RWC 2019 tbh, look at how well all the Toulon pack have done in recent years, most of them well in their 30s
Kierenj
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Ah here steady on, Burger still has plenty to give at the top level! extremely fit and agile and was SA's best player in the World Cup for my reckoning. He's only 32 and is a young 32 at that- he basically missed the whole of 2012/2013 so has pretty much relaunched his career again

you make sound like a him washed up has-been in his 40s! I'd go as far as saying it wouldn't overly shock me to see him at RWC 2019 tbh, look at how well all the Toulon pack have done in recent years, most of them well in their 30s”

Haha, fair point.. you know what he's had a bloody hard paper round! He looks about 35.
CGG_12
06-01-2016
Gonna be incredibly interesting to see what squad/team England go with

Goode, Ashton, Daly, Joseph/Barritt (in truth no-one is putting their hand up here even Burrell could sneak in), Nowell, Farrell/Cipriani, Simpson/care, Mako, George, Cole, Launch, Kruis, Itoje, Clifford/Kvesic, Billy would be the form club team, though leaving out Brown and Watson is tough

Will he pick Hartley despite the fact he's being kept out of Saints team? If not, who is captain?

It's all very interesting, that said there really is a 6n for the taking this year, play Ireland and Wales at home. France are in disarray for a few years, Wales take too long to get going, while Ireland's club teams are in awful form and really got knocked back down to earth in the RWC
Mike Teevee
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Gonna be incredibly interesting to see what squad/team England go with

Goode, Ashton, Daly, Joseph/Barritt (in truth no-one is putting their hand up here even Burrell could sneak in), Nowell, Farrell/Cipriani, Simpson/care, Mako, George, Cole, Launch, Kruis, Itoje, Clifford/Kvesic, Billy would be the form club team, though leaving out Brown and Watson is tough

Will he pick Hartley despite the fact he's being kept out of Saints team? If not, who is captain?

It's all very interesting, that said there really is a 6n for the taking this year, play Ireland and Wales at home. France are in disarray for a few years, Wales take too long to get going, while Ireland's club teams are in awful form and really got knocked back down to earth in the RWC”

Daly has been brilliant for us this season, he deserves his chance in the full England squad after being ignored for RWC.
CGG_12
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“Daly has been brilliant for us this season, he deserves his chance in the full England squad after being ignored for RWC.”

I said him at 13- the brackets are in relation to the 12 shirt
CGG_12
06-01-2016
In fairly astounding news, Andy farrell has now become Ireland's defence coach!

Fair to say no-one saw this coming. don't know what to make of it, I've always thought of him as a bit of a spoofer if I'm honest, but on the other hand maybe they need someone who won't suffer fools gladly in the set up?

the fallout from the world cup must have been a bit much for him, he could easily have gotten a club gig in England you'd imagine if he hung around. Hard to know if he'll go on to anything bigger over here, he seemed fairly settled in South England and has young kids now. Maybe he has one eye on the Leinster or Munster gig?
CGG_12
13-01-2016
Expected England 6n Squad

Tom Wood, Geoff Parling, Brad Barritt, Ben Morgan all set to get the axe along with no places for Danny Cipriani or Matt Kvesic

Very exciting looking squad though. all those 4 dropped aren't related to international quality players tbh bar Morgan, who spent most of last year injured.

Good to see Ashton and Tuilagi back
CGG_12
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Expected England 6n Squad

Tom Wood, Geoff Parling, Brad Barritt, Ben Morgan all set to get the axe along with no places for Danny Cipriani or Matt Kvesic

Very exciting looking squad though. all those 4 dropped aren't related to international quality players tbh bar Morgan, who spent most of last year injured.

Good to see Ashton and Tuilagi back”

papers were wrong Tuilagi loses race to be fit and kvesic gets in over frazer. tom youngs misses out. very surprised simpson is dropped- only two scrum halves picked

exciting squad though
Mike Teevee
13-01-2016
Eddie Jones all new all different EPS

Forwards: Josh Beaumont (Sale Sharks), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Jack Clifford (Harlequins), Jamie George (Saracens), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Wasps), Paul Hill (Northampton Saints), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Matt Kvesic (Gloucester Rugby) *injury replacement for Dave Ewers (Exeter Chiefs), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Matt Mullan (Wasps), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins), Henry Thomas (Bath Rugby) *injury replacement for Kieran Brookes (Northampton Saints), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens).

Backs: Chris Ashton (Saracens), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Ollie Devoto (Bath Rugby) *injury replacement for Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath Rugby), Alex Goode (Saracens), Sam Hill (Exeter Chiefs) *injury replacement for Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby), Marland Yarde (Harlequins), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers).
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No Tom Youngs, Tom Wood, Luther Burrell, Brad Barritt, Geoff Parling or Ben Morgan

Oh yeah no Cips either
CGG_12
13-01-2016
Think we'll see this for Scotland game

Brown; Watson, JJ, Farrell, Ashton; Ford, Youngs; Mako, Hartley (c), Cole; Itoje Launch; Robshaw, Clifford, Billy

Though he could put Lawes in for Clifford and move Robshaw to openside.

I'd have Care and Daly in my own team though
CGG_12
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
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Oh yeah no Cips either”

That goose is probably cooked at this stage . Faz is playing too well at club level for arguably the best team in Europe, while Ford is the future.

Shame for Danny but his goal-kicking is probably what lets him down

I think Joe Simpson is probably the main one who can count himself unlucky. There's probably no real point in bringing Tom Youngs as a 3rd choice, LCD is far younger and a brighter prospect
Mike Teevee
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“That goose is probably cooked at this stage . Faz is playing too well at club level for arguably the best team in Europe, while Ford is the future.

Shame for Danny but his goal-kicking is probably what lets him down

I think Joe Simpson is probably the main one who can count himself unlucky. There's probably no real point in bringing Tom Youngs as a 3rd choice, LCD is far younger and a brighter prospect”

I hoping that Joe will eventually force his way into the squad, it such a shame that he's been overlooked for so long. How he went from being part of 2011 RWC squad to being ignored is a mystery to me.

I feel bad for Cips, as he does offer something different for England team. There's still an outside chance for him, but it does look very unlikely. Also I wonder if Eastmond will ever be given another shot?
Kierenj
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Think we'll see this for Scotland game

Brown; Watson, JJ, Farrell, Ashton; Ford, Youngs; Mako, Hartley (c), Cole; Itoje Launch; Robshaw, Clifford, Billy

Though he could put Lawes in for Clifford and move Robshaw to openside.

I'd have Care and Daly in my own team though”

I think we're more likely to see:

6: Robshaw
7: Kvesic
8: Billy

with Clifford on the bench as he can cover all 3...

I've no clue what he'll go with in the back as he's definitely his own man there, although his MO is to have a large outside centre and a ball playing inside.
CGG_12
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Kierenj:
“I think we're more likely to see:

6: Robshaw
7: Kvesic
8: Billy

with Clifford on the bench as he can cover all 3...

I've no clue what he'll go with in the back as he's definitely his own man there, although his MO is to have a large outside centre and a ball playing inside.”

Kvesic only made the squad as an injury cover though?
CGG_12
14-01-2016
I'd love to see an age profile of that squad and how many are born in the 1990s!

Now that would make people feel old

I wonder when we'll see the first capped 00s player at international level

Fk it I'm bored! Top of my head I make it Lawes, Youngs (both 1989 I reckon as played under 20s in 09), Hartley, Cole, Ashton, Care, Robshaw, Haskell, Mullan, Thomas, Brown, Goode as the only ones from 1980s!
Kierenj
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Kvesic only made the squad as an injury cover though?”

True, smart money now looks to be on Haskell being given a shot at 7 with Jones saying they need a short term solution as there isn't quite yet a long term one there...
Mark F
15-01-2016
Good win for the Ospreys - French teams not having it all their own way this season.
CGG_12
18-01-2016
Ashton cited for an apparent eye gouge. If found guilty he's a very stupid boy

I guess his loss would be Roko, Yarde or Nowell's gain!
Mike Teevee
20-01-2016
We already knew this, but here's the schedule for this year's Six Nations coverage.

Date (kick-off time GMT) Fixture TV coverage
Sat, 6 Feb (14:25) France v Italy BBC One
Sat, 6 Feb (16:50) Scotland v England BBC One
Sun, 7 Feb (15:00) Ireland v Wales ITV
Sat, 13 Feb (14:25) France v Ireland BBC One
Sat, 13 Feb (16:50) Wales v Scotland BBC One
Sun, 14 Feb (14:00) Italy v England ITV
Fri, 26 Feb (20:05) Wales v France BBC One
Sat, 27 Feb (14:25) Italy v Scotland ITV
Sat, 27 Feb (16:50) England v Ireland ITV
Sat, 12 Mar (13:30) Ireland v Italy ITV
Sat, 12 Mar (16:00) England v Wales ITV
Sun, 13 Mar (15:00) Scotland v France BBC One
Sat, 19 Mar (14:30) Wales v Italy BBC One
Sat, 19 Mar (17:00) Ireland v Scotland ITV
Sat, 19 Mar (20:00) France v England BBC One
Mike Teevee
20-01-2016
In other news

BBC Rugby

Quote:
“Harlequins director of rugby Conor O'Shea will leave the Premiership club when his contract expires at the end of the season.”

A bit of a surprise.
CGG_12
20-01-2016
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“In other news

BBC Rugby



A bit of a surprise.”

Very big surprise!

they won't be short of offers though, they have one hell of a squad. second best team in England at the moment
Mike Teevee
20-01-2016
Ashton gets 10 week band, ruled out of 6N

He can appeal and no doubt will, general conscious seems that it's a bit harsh.
CGG_12
20-01-2016
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“Ashton gets 10 week band, ruled out of 6N

He can appeal and no doubt will, general conscious seems that it's a bit harsh.”

wow that seems very harsh, saw back the incident it really wasn't anything more than clumsy
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