Originally Posted by Kierenj:
“Do you even watch any match other than Gloucesters. There is no doubt that Kvesic is the best "fetcher" in England right now but his all round play isn't good enough. He gives the ball away more than any other player at Gloucester, gets himself turned over a lot as well. Whilst McCaw, Warburton, Tipuric, Pockock and Hooper are all known as great fetchers their all round play is superb as well... right now Kvesic just doesn't stand up.
Also, it's not like Jones hasn't seen him in training, he's had him in the squad, as did Lancaster, so I'll go with their judgement for now.
Daly is the bigger matter for me, our back line still looked stilted and Daly could cover centres and FB quite comfortably... he could be this decades James Simpson-Daniel.”
I was heavily criticised on DS for my views on the England back row, and the squad in general, prior to the RWC and yet everything I said was bang on. Turnover ball is a prime attacking weapon for all of the top teams and yet without an out-and-out openside it is an area where England simply don't compete. For the likes of Warburton, Tipuric, Pocock, and Hooper, it's fill your boots time when they play England.
Do you seriously consider not a single turnover in 80 minutes against Scotland, and even the part-timers of Uruguay won more turnovers than us in the final RWC game, as acceptable? I don't and England will never be competitive against the SH teams until that changes.
All I saw on Saturday was the same old rubbish. Yes it was EJs first game in charge and the win was important, but the clock is already ticking to the next RWC.
As for Matt Kvesic, I'd rather see him in a Gloucester shirt to be honest as England haven't been worth watching since 2003