No one likes to see their team lose. However, Celtic.supporters need to look a buy beyond beating England as the be all and end all.

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What a magnificent performance by Wales . I was expecting England to win in a tight game but Wales outclassed them in every department . I'm annoyed with myself that I didn't record it to enjoy watching again .

To be honest after those first 40 minutes in Cardiff on February 2nd did anyone ever imagine Wales would be champions and Ireland would be bottom?!

Big changes needed in green next season.

What's the New Zealand population?

I actually thought before the game that Wales were going to win but it wouldn't be by the required 8 points.

Our women are still on course for the Grand Slam tomorrow, bit of a silver lining for Ireland.

Congratulations Wales, i don't know anything about rugby, but it must be a total EMBARRESSMANT to be an English rugby fan today.

You could tell after 10/15 minutes England were never winning that game today.

England wont get very far not scoring tries, its the same old same old, last 4 games 1 dodgy try.

When was the last time Wales beat a SH team?

You go and have a good night, fair play, bet the poor old sheep are dreading it later though, the welly boots will be out tonight

Shame to see such a lot of sour grapes on this forum. England are still "work in progress" but are getting better.
Bottom line is , both countries went into this match with 8 wins each from their last 9 championship games. They have been the top two in both seasons and they are going to dominate the championship between them for a few years to come. The rematch at Twickenham next season and the World Cup match in 2015 look very tasty prospects indeed.
personally i hope that they both come out of that group and dump the Aussies out of the cup. For now though just happy to be champions again and frustrated that we went to sleep in that crazy first half against Ireland.

This was a team picked by RTE in Ireland, a panel including Conor O'Shea. It only took into account players who would be fit were it on tomorrow

Healy
Hibbard
A. Jones
Hamilton
AW Jones
SOB
Tipuric
Faletau

Youngs
Farrell (Sexton if fit)

North
BOD (capt)
Tuilagi
Cuthbert
Halfpenny

Thought Inverdale may go into meltdown, he's been working every scenario out all week as to how England would win the GS.

Jiffy

That's twice you've resorted to that tired old stereotype.

Rugby teams (teams of any sort) vary in strength, that is to be accepted. That is why England have gone from winning a World Cup (2003) to almost winning a World Cup, to nowhere near winning a World Cup to ... almost winning a Six Nations with minimal tries.

They had a low tonight, but they will get better!

You hold on to that Now stop talking about sheep, I'm getting a cold sweat.

Or score more points than England.

Do they do that?

An impression based on posts and posts by people who don't seem to have posted on the 6 nations until today.

The only post professing they were watching their first six nations game today was from an England supporter.

As Sensoria said, maybe we (Wales) can beat an SH team now.

He may be flippant in his remark but he is absolutely correct. The true acid test is beating the SH regularly. It would be foolhardy to fill the Lions with a majority of Welsh.

We won the championship but we didnt get the grand slam. The GS is everything in this tournament.

When did England last beat them in a world cup match?

The answer is never as it is for Wales.

I haven't posted in this thread til today but I don't think that. I do think there was quite an overconfidence from some England fans though.

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I see your point but New Zealand has almost two and a half times the registered amount of players to Wales. Rugby is losing ground against football in Wales and will continue to do so with both Swansea City and more than likely Cardiff City playing in the premiership.

Hilarious. Yes there's no point 'counting' the medal laden plus 20 year career player.

Great display by our Welsh lads today, tactics were perfect and discipline was controlled.

I thought they could win it, but perhaps not by 30 -3.


I was at Wembley on that sunny April day in 1999 that the BBC kept replaying, it really does not seem like 14 years ago though. I can still feel the hush that descended the stadium when Neil Jenkins took that last kick. *tension That was a good day too.


Proud of Wales today, and would never have thought they would win the Championship after that first game against Ireland.

You're empire's gone , get over the inbuilt superiority complex.

Absolutely, England, under Lancaster will get better. They are a young, relatively inexperienced side who if we remember, smashed the All Blacks in the Autumn giving us a peep at what they are capable of.