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Old 15-06-2013, 13:40
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Could anyone play on Tuesday and still get into the team or squad for the 1st test?
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Old 15-06-2013, 15:54
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Christian Wade has been called into the Lions. Looks like he's heading out of Argentina before our game tonight sadly.
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Old 15-06-2013, 15:56
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My Test team for next week so far .....

15 Halfpenny 14 Zebo 13 O'Driscoll 12 Roberts 11 North 10 Sexton 9 Phillips 8 Faletau 7 Warburton 6 Croft 5 O'Connell 4 AW Jones 3 Vunipola 2 Hibbard 1 A Jones
Roberts out surely? Not sure about North...

Heaslip and T Youngs will start I'd say, other than that I'd agree completely
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Old 15-06-2013, 15:57
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My Test team for next week so far .....

15 Halfpenny 14 Zebo 13 O'Driscoll 12 Roberts 11 North 10 Sexton 9 Phillips 8 Faletau 7 Warburton 6 Croft 5 O'Connell 4 AW Jones 3 Vunipola 2 Hibbard 1 A Jones
Put Tipuric at openside and that's mine.

I'd give consideration to Vunipola being more beneficial in the last 30 minutes than first 50.
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Old 15-06-2013, 15:59
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Put Tipuric at openside and that's mine.

I'd give consideration to Vunipola being more beneficial in the last 30 minutes than first 50.
I'd start Tipuric too, but sadly it hasn't a hope of happening! He's been streets ahead of Warburton
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:01
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Could anyone play on Tuesday and still get into the team or squad for the 1st test?
Numbers wise about 8 will have to double up, but they're mainly subs.

Faletau will likely play half Tuesday and start Saturday. Tuilangi could well play at least half an hour of both.

Hibberd will probably play 20 or 30 mins and start next week and at least one prop too.
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:03
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Cuthbert would probably had played both too but now Wade is in, so maybe not.

I can't work out who FB will be Tuesday. Probably Kearney but he won't have more than an hour in him.
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:07
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Hibberd will probably play 20 or 30 mins and start next week and at least one prop too.
Youngs has to start test surely, Hibbard hasn't been too impressive all tour and threw his first lineout away today when he came on (which was first all game iirc). Youngs offers far more for me.

Today's starting pack will start next Saturday I'd say.
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:09
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Youngs has to start test surely, Hibbard hasn't been too impressive all tour and threw his first lineout away today when he came on (which was first all game iirc). Youngs offers far more for me.

Today's starting pack will start next Saturday I'd say.
Possibly, its close but I see both Youngs being used for impact after an hour.

I wouldn't start Heaslip over Faletau.
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:12
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Johnnie May now in for England tonight, over Strettle - replacing Wade. One quality winger in for another, still makes it well worth a watch. Pity Foden isn't starting too. With Yarde that could be lethal.
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:23
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Alun Wyn secured his place today as did Warburton I think, the former was mightily impressive and the latter just had to get through the game and show competence, which he did. He looked off the pace last wekend but seemingly fitter today.
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:44
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Brad Barritt being called up too...
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:44
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Crikey. Hearing Brad Barritt has been called up too now.

Is he in Argentina or England at the moment?
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:47
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Woodward got pilloried for a lot of things but one was taking 43 players, actually less than 2 squads, which is exactly the number you need now.

The last 3 players the Lions have called up have not been a direct replacement either, so we're now over 40.
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:49
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You realise how tough this is trying to jot down a side for Tuesday. Maitland would have to play again, Tuilangi when not fit and possible involved next week, Cuthbert too, Kearney 2 games on the bounce.
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Old 15-06-2013, 17:27
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Yes so happy that Wade has got called up. Whatever he does on this tour will have more impact than what he could do in Argentina.

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Old 15-06-2013, 17:30
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Woodward got pilloried for a lot of things but one was taking 43 players, actually less than 2 squads, which is exactly the number you need now.

The last 3 players the Lions have called up have not been a direct replacement either, so we're now over 40.
I know Clive got a lot of things wrong back 2005, but I think he was right about squad size. His decision to split test team from midweek team was stupid, but making sure you have enough cover makes sense to me.
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Old 15-06-2013, 18:01
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Watching South Africa vs Scotland ATM. Very close match which surprises me! So I'd like to see Scotland win! Or pull off a draw!
I'd like a question answering though! In northern hemisphere rugby you often see the number 8 holding back the seconds and on Engadge go in. This referee has given 3 free kicks against Scotland for this. Next one is a penalty. So is it a case of differing referees? Or is there a new law or advise about this? I know you should play to the referee but seems odd as it was quite common place!
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Old 15-06-2013, 18:45
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Woodward got pilloried for a lot of things but one was taking 43 players, actually less than 2 squads, which is exactly the number you need now.

The last 3 players the Lions have called up have not been a direct replacement either, so we're now over 40.
He got more pilloried for dividing the squad - one management team for the midweekers and another for the first choice. Result? 20 or so demoralised players.
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Old 15-06-2013, 20:07
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wow this change strip will go down as the most used in history, with two of times actually being necessary.

Despite the inexperience I think this should be a comfortable win for England
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Old 15-06-2013, 20:49
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Watching South Africa vs Scotland ATM. Very close match which surprises me! So I'd like to see Scotland win! Or pull off a draw!
I'd like a question answering though! In northern hemisphere rugby you often see the number 8 holding back the seconds and on Engadge go in. This referee has given 3 free kicks against Scotland for this. Next one is a penalty. So is it a case of differing referees? Or is there a new law or advise about this? I know you should play to the referee but seems odd as it was quite common place!
Think they lost it with the yellow card - JH seems to be a bit of a liability in this respect. Three enforced changes may also have had an effect.

Didn't see it as I was listening to it on the radio, but I heard they were being penalised for the front row engaging too early, nothing to do with the number eight. It's something they got hit with repeatedly in the six nations so looks like they've not learned from that.
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Old 15-06-2013, 21:32
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There's some special players here. Eastmond, Yarde, Launchbury have been superb. May good when he's had the ball. Morgan and Wood have been everywhere.

Brilliant try from Yarde. Like to see Foden on now.
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Old 15-06-2013, 21:38
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We've found ourselves a new team for the A.Is. Eastmond and Yarde's tries were phenomenal.
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Old 15-06-2013, 22:04
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Yarde and Wade as the two wingers for the Autumn Internationals?
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Old 15-06-2013, 22:09
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Yarde and Wade as the two wingers for the Autumn Internationals?
shame there's no chance of Varndell being looked at by Lancaster

Those two would be great to have on wings, though I don't think England would be that open.
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