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The All Purpose Rugby Union Thread (P2)
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Janine999
29-06-2013
What a scrum!
kana
29-06-2013
North is a beast. Loving this match.
Janine999
29-06-2013
My nerves are shredded.
Kierenj
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by kana:
“North is a beast. Loving this match.”

Agree... I'm so confused how Kings Lynn have produced such a man... he should be from the valleys of wales or the mining towns of the UK.
big bro geek
29-06-2013
Oh god
gemmaovwales03
29-06-2013
oh god! go on halfpenny
Cissy Fairfax
29-06-2013
Dreadful game. Cant complain, Australia have been the better side in both games. If they could kick and catch theyd have won both by 10 pts.
Cissy Fairfax
29-06-2013
Never understood these 3-0 Lions predictions, it was a no brainer it would be 1-1 after two.

Seen little in two tests to suggest we can take a decider either. They cannot see out a game, the last 20 minutes of both Tests we have spent about 3 minutes combined in their 22.
Cissy Fairfax
29-06-2013
Be tempted to change one if not both centres. Roberts must start, maybe Tuilangi too. Back row defended well but still isnt offering anything in attack. Im not sure what Tipuric needs to do.
Marmite Baby
29-06-2013
Australia fully deserved the victory. The Lions never looked like scoring a try & paid for being so negative. Hope Tipuric comes into the team now.
Pendragon579
29-06-2013
Lions kicked too much ball away, world class backs never properly unleashed
CTD101
29-06-2013
Third test, northern hemisphere ref, Tipuric HAS to play. If Warbs is fit then JT at 7 and SW at 8. If SW is unfit the play the Welsh back row, with O'Brien and Heaslip/Croft on the bench. Jamie Roberts to start if fit or Tualagi. We need that boom in the centres
Pendragon579
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Marmite Baby:
“Australia fully deserved the victory. The Lions never looked like scoring a try & paid for being so negative. Hope Tipuric comes into the team now.”

Don't think Warburton's hamstring will recover in time, which gets Gatland off the 'dropping your captain' hook...
Pendragon579
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by CTD101:
“Third test, northern hemisphere ref, Tipuric HAS to play. If Warbs is fit then JT at 7 and SW at 8. If SW is unfit the play the Welsh back row, with O'Brien and Heaslip/Croft on the bench. Jamie Roberts to start if fit or Tualagi. We need that boom in the centres”

And the ball to be passed from 10 and not endlessly kicked
Mambo Italiano
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by CTD101:
“Third test, northern hemisphere ref, Tipuric HAS to play. If Warbs is fit then JT at 7 and SW at 8. If SW is unfit the play the Welsh back row, with O'Brien and Heaslip/Croft on the bench. Jamie Roberts to start if fit or Tualagi. We need that boom in the centres”

I don't rate Tuliagi at all, but I agree - if Roberts isn't fit he has to start. Davies was anonymous again, and BOD seems to work best with a bit of boom inside him.

Can't agree with SW at 8. Really? He's never played there at international level! I'd play him at 6 and Tipuric at 7 tbh, but I'm not a fan of losing Lydiate/Croft.

Vunipola got a v.generous commentary I think. His scrummaging leaves something to be desired and I'd imagine Australia would be interested in seeing that elbow to Adam Ashley Cooper again!
Cissy Fairfax
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Marmite Baby:
“Australia fully deserved the victory. The Lions never looked like scoring a try & paid for being so negative. Hope Tipuric comes into the team now.”

For such a competitve back row we have, theyve been better with a supposedly second string. They churn out opensides one after another that injuries dont really matter. Hooper was terrific tonight. Horwill probably will not be there next week though.
Mambo Italiano
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Pendragon579:
“And the ball to be passed from 10 and not endlessly kicked”

This. Why anyone though it was a good idea to endlessly kick to a team with two 6 foot plus wingers is beyond me!
Pendragon579
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Mambo Italiano:
“This. Why anyone though it was a good idea to endlessly kick to a team with two 6 foot plus wingers is beyond me!”

Davies, North, BOD and Bowe funnily enough play best with the ball in hand, so the gameplan was useless, like watching Rob Andrew all over again on a groundhog day loop...
Cissy Fairfax
29-06-2013
Warburtons a tricky one, he was probably the best of the pack today, maybe AWJ on a par, but his presence doesnt offer much from an attacking perspective, particularly with the other two alongside him.

I still think a back row of Croft, Tipuric and Faletau wouldve performer better overall. Even O'Brien would be the next option.
Cissy Fairfax
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Pendragon579:
“Davies, North, BOD and Bowe funnily enough play best with the ball in hand, so the gameplan was useless, like watching Rob Andrew all over again on a groundhog day loop...”


Id like to see the kick % rate from both 9 and 10.

I would imagine both would be ridiculously high. Some of Youngs box kicking was decent but it was too much.
CTD101
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Mambo Italiano:
“I don't rate Tuliagi at all, but I agree - if Roberts isn't fit he has to start. Davies was anonymous again, and BOD seems to work best with a bit of boom inside him.

Can't agree with SW at 8. Really? He's never played there at international level! I'd play him at 6 and Tipuric at 7 tbh, but I'm not a fan of losing Lydiate/Croft.

Vunipola got a v.generous commentary I think. His scrummaging leaves something to be desired and I'd imagine Australia would be interested in seeing that elbow to Adam Ashley Cooper again!”

You're right I was harking back to the u19s where SW played 8 as JT was a much superior 7.

Vunipola won't be playing next week, neither will Horwill. Both will be banned
Janine999
29-06-2013
I hope Brian keeps a cool head next week, aswell as the rest of the team. Can't wait for the crunch match.
Pendragon579
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by CTD101:
“You're right I was harking back to the u19s where SW played 8 as JT was a much superior 7.

Vunipola won't be playing next week, neither will Horwill. Both will be banned”

Vunipola will say Ashley-Cooper ran into his elbow, then will bring a cake and a shirt and tie to the hearing - don't laugh it worked for Horwill (initially)
Mambo Italiano
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Cissy Fairfax:
“I still think a back row of Croft, Tipuric and Faletau wouldve performer better overall. Even O'Brien would be the next option.”

That would be my first choice back row too!

Glad I'm not the only one feeling that way about Vunipola - I was massively outvoted in my house, to the point where I thought I was watching a different game

(the cynic in me thinks some of Horwill's tears at the final whistle were because he knows he won't be playing in the decider next week...)
Pendragon579
29-06-2013
The thing with the scrum these days is that the feed is crooked and teams are pushing before the ball is fed in - both allegedly illegal under the laws of the game.. Making it very hard to assess the performance of individual props... Will the IRB sort out the reffing of this area of the game...
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