Foxy to Clermont.
I didn't see that one coming.
I didn't see that one coming.
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A report here regards the future of Super Rugby
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spor...1226758509232#
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spor...1226758509232#
10 Australian sides??
I didn't think there were enough people playing rugby union in Australia to support that many teams
I didn't think there were enough people playing rugby union in Australia to support that many teams
"Australasian" i.e. mix of Australian and NZ sides (currently the Super 15 has 5 sides from each). I could read the whole of that article earlier but not anymore as now it is apparently behind a paywall.
Originally Posted by Kiko H Fan:
“Foxy to Clermont.
I didn't see that one coming.”
“Foxy to Clermont.
I didn't see that one coming.”
Never knew Jonathan Davies' nickname. Be interesting to see how he plays with Wesley Fofana - arguable the 2 best NH centres.
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“England team: Mike Brown; Chris Ashton, Joel Tomkins, Billy Twelvetrees, Ben Foden; Owen Farrell, Lee Dickson; Joe Marler, Dylan Hartley, Dan Cole, Joe Launchbury, Courtney Lawes, Tom Wood, Chris Robshaw (c), Billy Vunipola.
Replacements: Tom Youngs, Matt Mullan, David Wilson, Geoff Parling, Ben Morgan, Ben Youngs, Toby Flood, Alex Goode.”
“England team: Mike Brown; Chris Ashton, Joel Tomkins, Billy Twelvetrees, Ben Foden; Owen Farrell, Lee Dickson; Joe Marler, Dylan Hartley, Dan Cole, Joe Launchbury, Courtney Lawes, Tom Wood, Chris Robshaw (c), Billy Vunipola.
Replacements: Tom Youngs, Matt Mullan, David Wilson, Geoff Parling, Ben Morgan, Ben Youngs, Toby Flood, Alex Goode.”
I'm not sure that replacements bench can change the game if things don't go to plan
Whilst the big three discuss Super Rugby. thinking about the the ERC.
Wasn't one of the ideas mooted for a third tier rugby competition.
Who would be in tier three? I get the impression after the French, English and Celtic League that Frances second league is the highest grade.
Or is it tier three is based on countries rather than clubs. Why could we not invite a Argentinian Team to play in tier three in a Spanish city? Or a South American Team. If Super Rugby does not want to expand to that degree. Maybe a Pacific Islands team?
Wasn't one of the ideas mooted for a third tier rugby competition.
Who would be in tier three? I get the impression after the French, English and Celtic League that Frances second league is the highest grade.
Or is it tier three is based on countries rather than clubs. Why could we not invite a Argentinian Team to play in tier three in a Spanish city? Or a South American Team. If Super Rugby does not want to expand to that degree. Maybe a Pacific Islands team?
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“Wales: Leigh Halfpenny (Blues); George North (Northampton Saints), Cory Allen (Blues), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Liam Williams (Scarlets); Dan Biggar (Ospreys), Mike Phillips (unattached); Gethin Jenkins (Blues), Richard Hibbard (Ospreys), Rhodri Jones (Scarlets), Bradley Davies (Blues), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Sam Warburton (Blues, capt), Toby Faletau (Dragons), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys).
Replacements: Ken Owens (Scarlets), Paul James (Bath), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Luke Charteris (Perpignan), Ryan Jones (Ospreys), Lloyd Williams (Blues), James Hook (Perpignan), Ashley Beck (Ospreys). ”
“Wales: Leigh Halfpenny (Blues); George North (Northampton Saints), Cory Allen (Blues), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Liam Williams (Scarlets); Dan Biggar (Ospreys), Mike Phillips (unattached); Gethin Jenkins (Blues), Richard Hibbard (Ospreys), Rhodri Jones (Scarlets), Bradley Davies (Blues), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Sam Warburton (Blues, capt), Toby Faletau (Dragons), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys).
Replacements: Ken Owens (Scarlets), Paul James (Bath), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Luke Charteris (Perpignan), Ryan Jones (Ospreys), Lloyd Williams (Blues), James Hook (Perpignan), Ashley Beck (Ospreys). ”
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This weekends fixtures
15 November
Brazil v Portugal
Russia v Japan (at Colwyn Bay)
16 November Georgia v USA
Italy v Fiji
French Barbarians v Samoa
England v New Zealand
Wales v Argentina
France v Tonga
Romania v Canada
Ireland v Australia
Uruguay v Spain
17 - Nov Scotland v South Africa
Again well done the IRB. Allowing teams who have been at . could be at the 2015 World Cup (or future) a chance to play similar level teams.
Really think the IRB realises, it is wants Rugby Union to be a major Worlrd Sport (and the Cup to stay as a a major sports event) it needs to expand,
15 November
Brazil v Portugal
Russia v Japan (at Colwyn Bay)
16 November Georgia v USA
Italy v Fiji
French Barbarians v Samoa
England v New Zealand
Wales v Argentina
France v Tonga
Romania v Canada
Ireland v Australia
Uruguay v Spain
17 - Nov Scotland v South Africa
Again well done the IRB. Allowing teams who have been at . could be at the 2015 World Cup (or future) a chance to play similar level teams.
Really think the IRB realises, it is wants Rugby Union to be a major Worlrd Sport (and the Cup to stay as a a major sports event) it needs to expand,
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“Ireland: R Kearney; T Bowe, B O'Driscoll, L Marshall, F McFadden; J Sexton, E Reddan; C Healy, R Best, M Ross; D Toner, P O'Connell; P O'Mahony, S O'Brien, J Heaslip.
Replacements: S Cronin, J McGrath, S Archer, M McCarthy, K McLaughlin, C Murray, I Madigan, R Henshaw. ”
“Ireland: R Kearney; T Bowe, B O'Driscoll, L Marshall, F McFadden; J Sexton, E Reddan; C Healy, R Best, M Ross; D Toner, P O'Connell; P O'Mahony, S O'Brien, J Heaslip.
Replacements: S Cronin, J McGrath, S Archer, M McCarthy, K McLaughlin, C Murray, I Madigan, R Henshaw. ”
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“Scotland: Sean Maitland; Tommy Seymour, Nick De Luca, Duncan Taylor, Sean Lamont; Ruaridh Jackson, Greig Laidlaw (capt); Alasdair Dickinson, Ross Ford, Moray Low, Richie Gray, Jim Hamilton, Alasdair Strokosch, John Barclay, David Denton.
Replacements: Scott Lawson, Ryan Grant, Geoff Cross, Jonny Gray, John Beattie, Chris Cusiter, Duncan Weir, Max Evans. ”
“Scotland: Sean Maitland; Tommy Seymour, Nick De Luca, Duncan Taylor, Sean Lamont; Ruaridh Jackson, Greig Laidlaw (capt); Alasdair Dickinson, Ross Ford, Moray Low, Richie Gray, Jim Hamilton, Alasdair Strokosch, John Barclay, David Denton.
Replacements: Scott Lawson, Ryan Grant, Geoff Cross, Jonny Gray, John Beattie, Chris Cusiter, Duncan Weir, Max Evans. ”
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As much as I love England and think we're still vastly under-rated by certain elements of the press I fear this weekend we'll be hammered. I don't buy into the revenge thing, but I do think the kiwi players will want to make a point. We're the only team to school them in such a long time they'll want to set the record straight. Plus, they had a good warm up last week against France to iron out a few issues and England have got 2 of their best players missing in Corbs and Manu.
I'd be happy if we kept them under 35 points.
I'd be happy if we kept them under 35 points.
Tomorrow will be tough and I'm not expecting any sort of repeat of last year's great win.
I'll be happy if we only lose by 10 points, though I really want us to win
I'll be happy if we only lose by 10 points, though I really want us to win
Why are Sky showing the England vs All Blacks game and the BBC only gets highlights, but the first game in the Rugby League World Cup, England vs Australia, was shown in full?
Originally Posted by CerealKiller:
“Why are Sky showing the England vs All Blacks game and the BBC only gets highlights, but the first game in the Rugby League World Cup, England vs Australia, was shown in full?”
“Why are Sky showing the England vs All Blacks game and the BBC only gets highlights, but the first game in the Rugby League World Cup, England vs Australia, was shown in full?”
Because the England v All Blacks is union not league, it's a different deal and sky have exclusive rights on it
Originally Posted by platelet:
“Because the England v All Blacks is union not league, it's a different deal and sky have exclusive rights on it”
“Because the England v All Blacks is union not league, it's a different deal and sky have exclusive rights on it”
Ah ok, didn't know. Cheers!
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“probably not the best preparation before the South Africa match”
“probably not the best preparation before the South Africa match”
What, going to a Glasgow takeaway?
Originally Posted by The Net:
“A particularly vicious looking version of the Haka”
“A particularly vicious looking version of the Haka”
Not sure whether it's slightly rude to completely drown out the Haka with Swing Low Sweet Chariot or not.
Makes a change from watching it in reverential silence I suppose.
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Not sure whether it's slightly rude to completely drown out the Haka with Swing Low Sweet Chariot or not.
Makes a change from watching it in reverential silence I suppose.”
“Not sure whether it's slightly rude to completely drown out the Haka with Swing Low Sweet Chariot or not.
Makes a change from watching it in reverential silence I suppose.”
Think there's two schools of thought. One it gives the Blacks a psychological advantage so challenge it Others love it.
Great start to the game. Kieran Read is a class apart.
England on the verge of beating New Zealand again potentially.
I don't know why most teams don't beat New Zealand more given there population is only 3.5 million. Sorry I know that sounds thick, but from somebody who doesn't follow Rugby its just a thought.
I don't know why most teams don't beat New Zealand more given there population is only 3.5 million. Sorry I know that sounds thick, but from somebody who doesn't follow Rugby its just a thought.
Owen Farrell is such a little brat - that shove on Cruden? Grow up lad, you're not 12 years old.
Watching the England game rather than the Welsh one (which is poor) - impressed with Brown and Lawes, though not looking forward to the media reaction if England win this, come on NZ!
(Carter off...... there goes the only eye candy
)
Watching the England game rather than the Welsh one (which is poor) - impressed with Brown and Lawes, though not looking forward to the media reaction if England win this, come on NZ!
(Carter off...... there goes the only eye candy
)
Originally Posted by Thomas007:
“England on the verge of beating New Zealand again.
I don't know why most teams don't beat New Zealand more given there population is only 3.5 million. Sorry I know that sounds thick, but from somebody who doesn't follow Rugby its just a thought.”
“England on the verge of beating New Zealand again.
I don't know why most teams don't beat New Zealand more given there population is only 3.5 million. Sorry I know that sounds thick, but from somebody who doesn't follow Rugby its just a thought.”
You'd have to understand the psyche of rugby in NZ. Also look at the population of Wales and how they destroyed England in March.
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