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I love this show. Thank goodness for ex-pat TV
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Young Kevin is rather tasty. The strong silent type. I'd almost refuse to pay the plumber's bill to get him to call round with his right of entry.
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It's great watching wrong 'uns get their just deserts on shows like this, and police ones too - but sometimes the police and the sheriffs almost fall over themselves to be polite and reasonable. Why? These lowlifes try every dumb trick in the book to wriggle off the hook, are often aggressive and abusive, wheedle and whine and waste huge amounts of time - yet they're not treated any differently than if they paid up or owned up immediately. On the contrary, they quite often successfully negotiate a part-payment, and then it's all 'thanks, cheers mate'. Yet because of these thieves some poor bugger has had his house taken off him, and his mental health and credit rating f*****d.
I'm not suggesting Turkish-style policing is the answer, or any kind of thuggery. But these programmes make me wish our enforcers were just a bit less chummy with the people they go after. I'm sure if you're in those professions it's all about keeping your sanity, not escalating situations and so on. I can see why you'd rather be nice, because a) you're not a bastard and b) it's easier to live with. But the chap I mentioned above, the personal trainer who wasn't paid when his gym was taken over and then his house was repossessed... not paying him and then refusing to honour a court order to pay him... And to add insult to injury, the gym owners got the last word, saying they tried to contact him to give him the money but couldn't get hold of him? wtf? |
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It's great watching wrong 'uns get their just deserts on shows like this, and police ones too - but sometimes the police and the sheriffs almost fall over themselves to be polite and reasonable. Why? These lowlifes try every dumb trick in the book to wriggle off the hook, are often aggressive and abusive, wheedle and whine and waste huge amounts of time - yet they're not treated any differently than if they paid up or owned up immediately. On the contrary, they quite often successfully negotiate a part-payment, and then it's all 'thanks, cheers mate'. Yet because of these thieves some poor bugger has had his house taken off him, and his mental health and credit rating f*****d.
I'm not suggesting Turkish-style policing is the answer, or any kind of thuggery. But these programmes make me wish our enforcers were just a bit less chummy with the people they go after. I'm sure if you're in those professions it's all about keeping your sanity, not escalating situations and so on. I can see why you'd rather be nice, because a) you're not a bastard and b) it's easier to live with. But the chap I mentioned above, the personal trainer who wasn't paid when his gym was taken over and then his house was repossessed... not paying him and then refusing to honour a court order to pay him... And to add insult to injury, the gym owners got the last word, saying they tried to contact him to give him the money but couldn't get hold of him? wtf? I'd be calling half the people (like the garage owner on Tuesday) 'scum'. The toilet roll owner was a dick head too. No way could I keep my temper with them. It really annoys me that Company Directors are allowed to setup another company with almost the exact name as the previous one, so that they can go bankrupt on the old company and avoid the debts. These are the so called 'wealth creators' who the government claim are helping this county. |
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Young Kevin is rather tasty. The strong silent type. I'd almost refuse to pay the plumber's bill to get him to call round with his right of entry.
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1 of the best of the bunch of the daytime shows. I never miss a episode if I can help it.
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Kev made a call to a debtor! Mr Gricks was so proud
![]() He enforced the debt successfully as well, with the help of the tall fella. |
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I suspect the Sheriffs would be a bit less reasonable and polite if the BBC Camera crew weren't there.
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This show is my guilty pleasure.
One of the sheriffs remind me of Uncle Fester from The Addams family ![]() Let me guess ![]() https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...acg2NiswlUNXU6 |
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Kev made a call to a debtor! Mr Gricks was so proud
![]() He enforced the debt successfully as well, with the help of the tall fella. |
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There is something almost Dickensian about Kev and Mr Gricks. I can see Mr Gricks carrying the sobbing hard-ups off to debtors' gaol while Kev fends off a crowd of filthy urchins who run out of the workhouse and try to make off with his pocket book.
"when you can snatch the cash from the debtor young grasshopper you become the Sheriff"
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I missed today's show but one of the cases on yesterdays episode left me feeling a degree of sympathy to a Garage owner they chased up on behalf of a customer
The woman had bought what was a very cheap vehicle (wasn't mentioned what type and we didn't see it) for £700 which included her car they took in part ex. It broke down after a few days so they took it back and repaired it, only for it to break down again. She then took it to another Garage who told her it was the ECU (common problem) so she decided to ask the Garage she'd purchased from for her money back. This seems to be where 'communications' started to go wrong as she ended up taking them to Court instead who awarded in her favour. The Garage had asked for the vehicle to be returned.....but for some mysterious reason she had already got rid of it! So the Garage refused to settle with her. Due to time a £700 bill had escalated to over £2 grand....and the HCEO's turned up for payment or seizure of goods. Eventually the Garage owner paid up so much but what i'd like to know is what happened to that vehicle and why she didn't return it back to them? The Garage owner lost out big time on that but i don't think the woman customer had been totally reasonable either. |
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Yes, in this case I also found I had some sympathy for the garage owner, too. The woman had bought a £700 van and then seemed genuinely surprised it wasn't like a new one and proved to be unreliable. If I wanted a reliable van I'd be expecting to spend considerably more than £700.
Obviously this story had been going on for quite a while, including a court hearing, which, so I understand, the garage owner didn't attend, so judgement was obtained in his absence. Had he gone to court then I believe there's every chance the woman would not have won her case. It was said in the programme that the judge, when making the award in favour of the woman, made no request that the vehicle had to be returned to the garage. She then took legal advice regarding the van's future and, based upon what she had been told in connection with the case, then went on and sold the van. It's one of the perils of selling cheap vehicles to the general public, I'm afraid, which is why, these days, most vehicle dealers will only sell such vehicles to other traders or at auction. Selling these vehicles to members of the public is just asking for trouble. |
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In today's case of the "Dodgy Car Dealer" 7 cars had been seized by the Sheriffs which were then "the property" of the Court.
When they returned and collected three the other four had disappeared. On the final visit the place had been abandoned with no stock left. Surely they had the registrations of the four missing cars and would have been able to trace them and get recourse for the client by seizing them and auctioning them as they belonged to the Court and must have been disposed of illegally. |
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What about the dentist who owed £7 million! That's horrific, and the unconscionable dick is still practicing and driving around in a Jag. Because he declares himself insolvent, the gets away with it. The laws on declaring yourself bankrupt and closing down companies only to start trading the next day under a different name really need to be addressed in favour of the poor sods who've been defrauded.
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Glad its a new series, bet he felt a right tit today when he gave that guy till 12 the next day, and he buggered off on holiday, then moved
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Yes, in this case I also found I had some sympathy for the garage owner, too. The woman had bought a £700 van and then seemed genuinely surprised it wasn't like a new one and proved to be unreliable. If I wanted a reliable van I'd be expecting to spend considerably more than £700.
It's one of the perils of selling cheap vehicles to the general public, I'm afraid, which is why, these days, most vehicle dealers will only sell such vehicles to other traders or at auction. Selling these vehicles to members of the public is just asking for trouble. Some years ago i sold an old Mini. It was cheap but taxed and MOT'd. A young lad who turned up with his Father bought it. He'd only just passed his test and it was his first car. I took fifty quid less and then my 'soft side' kicked in as i remembered back to days of my first car. I gave him a Haynes workshop manual plus lots of contact phone numbers for Mini specialists and breakers. Imagine my surprise when six months later this lad turned up at my house to tell me it had failed it's MOT! I asked him what they had failed it on. Ball joints. Common problem on Mini's and at that time the cost per side was five quid so a tenner for both wheels. I was absolutely bloody livid with fury at the cheek of this youth! I said to him, "remember that workshop manual i gave you.....well go back home, start reading it.....and p*ss off!" |
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And yet another company trying to use a change of name to get away with paying a debt.
How can changing a name from 'Pink' to 'Purple' (or the other way round) mean that they don't owe the debt? It really should be against the law. |
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And yet another company trying to use a change of name to get away with paying a debt.
How can changing a name from 'Pink' to 'Purple' (or the other way round) mean that they don't owe the debt? It really should be against the law. |
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And yet another company trying to use a change of name to get away with paying a debt.
How can changing a name from 'Pink' to 'Purple' (or the other way round) mean that they don't owe the debt? It really should be against the law. Quote:
And their logo, the font and the style was just the same as the real TVR only in a different colour. I'm surprised they got away with that.
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What about the dentist who owed £7 million! That's horrific, and the unconscionable dick is still practicing and driving around in a Jag. Because he declares himself insolvent, the gets away with it. The laws on declaring yourself bankrupt and closing down companies only to start trading the next day under a different name really need to be addressed in favour of the poor sods who've been defrauded.
Also I found it pretty funny in the earlier episode where the squatters were being evicted and they were the ones who phoned the Police! |
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Also I found it pretty funny in the earlier episode where the squatters were being evicted and they were the ones who phoned the Police!
He phoned the police and they arrested him. LOL |
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Same thing happened with the bloke on the boat who was mooring where he wasn't allowed.
He phoned the police and they arrested him. LOL |
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In today's case of the "Dodgy Car Dealer" 7 cars had been seized by the Sheriffs which were then "the property" of the Court.
When they returned and collected three the other four had disappeared. On the final visit the place had been abandoned with no stock left. Surely they had the registrations of the four missing cars and would have been able to trace them and get recourse for the client by seizing them and auctioning them as they belonged to the Court and must have been disposed of illegally. If the sherrifs don't treat paper seizures seriously, it just sends a message that you can do a runner with seized goods and get away with it. |
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I sympathised with him a bit as he certainly didn't seem to be in an area likely to cause an obstruction but obviously the Port of London River Authority saw it differently. No doubt moorings on the Thames are quite expensive and it seemed the sole reason for shifting him was forcing him to re-locate to somewhere he'd have to pay.
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