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Best UK female vocalist in mainstream music? |
| View Poll Results: Best UK female vocalist in mainstream music? | |||
| Adele |
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50 | 24.04% |
| Alexandra Burke |
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41 | 19.71% |
| Alesha Dixon |
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10 | 4.81% |
| Amy Winehouse |
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27 | 12.98% |
| Bat For Lashes |
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4 | 1.92% |
| Beverley Knight |
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11 | 5.29% |
| Cheryl Cole |
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9 | 4.33% |
| Corinne Bailey Rae |
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8 | 3.85% |
| Diana Vickers |
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11 | 5.29% |
| Duffy |
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5 | 2.40% |
| Ellie Goulding |
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12 | 5.77% |
| Emeli Sandé |
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26 | 12.50% |
| Estelle |
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8 | 3.85% |
| Florence Welch |
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29 | 13.94% |
| Jamelia |
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3 | 1.44% |
| Jessie J |
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32 | 15.38% |
| Joss Stone |
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8 | 3.85% |
| Kate Nash |
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4 | 1.92% |
| Katie Melua |
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8 | 3.85% |
| KT Tunstall |
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5 | 2.40% |
| Laura Marling |
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12 | 5.77% |
| Leona Lewis |
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81 | 38.94% |
| Lily Allen |
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10 | 4.81% |
| Paloma Faith |
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11 | 5.29% |
| Pixie Lott |
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8 | 3.85% |
| Rebecca Ferguson |
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17 | 8.17% |
| Rumer |
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3 | 1.44% |
| Cher Lloyd |
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12 | 5.77% |
| Marina Diamandis |
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20 | 9.62% |
| Katy B |
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11 | 5.29% |
| Other (please state) |
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6 | 2.88% |
| Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 208. You can't vote on this poll right now - are you signed in? | |||
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I've always though joss stone to be far far far superior vocally to Adele!!
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She has got a much better tone IMO I love that edgy throatiness when she belts and then the soft angelicness if her lower register and head voice. Her song spoiled is gorgeous and much better vocally than any of adeles work imo
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FTR I'm actually a fan of Britney but I'm not going to delude myself into think that she is a good singer. She has a nice tone of voice but that's as far as it goes. I never mentioned anything about predictions, it was actually you trying to suggest that I was when in fact it was you making wild and sweeping statements of which you have no real confirmation.
And it didn't really take long to find these posts. If anyone is 'pressed' it's you, seeing as though you have a lot to say about Alexandra. Britney is great but I think most people would agree she's not a talented singer by any standards, and she is especially not comparable to Alexandra in that respect. ![]() I don't have a lot to say about Alexandra, actually. I think the original version of Elephant is crap and over-rated. She's pretty irrelevant to me in terms of music, hence the name I used. I agree, Britney doesn't have a powerful voice like Alexandra... but this is pop music. The voice isn't the most important thing, hence Britney's success. As for Alexandra, Elephant is below her. Anyone could have sang that song. It does nothing to show her voice. Have you seen any of the live performances of it? When her natural voice comes through, it sounds better. |
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I don't have a lot to say about Alexandra, actually. I think the original version of Elephant is crap and over-rated. She's pretty irrelevant to me in terms of music, hence the name I used. I agree, Britney doesn't have a powerful voice like Alexandra... but this is pop music. The voice isn't the most important thing, hence Britney's success.
As for Alexandra, Elephant is below her. Anyone could have sang that song. It does nothing to show her voice. Have you seen any of the live performances of it? When her natural voice comes through, it sounds better. Why is it that it's fine for Britney to release tepid overly tuned music because 'the voice is not the most important thing' yet Alexandra's Elephant is generic because 'it does nothing to show off her voice' despite numerous tracks in her catalogue displaying vocal prowess Britney will never know of in her life? Whilst Elephant didn't break the mould the lyrics were different, and why was it so bad for Alex to try something different. She doesn't go around using autotune all the time and has stellar live vocals. She could do with some better songs but as a whole I think she's a very important female in UK/European music, not to mention the records she holds, so I'd hardly call her irrelevant. |
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She has got a much better tone IMO I love that edgy throatiness when she belts and then the soft angelicness if her lower register and head voice. Her song spoiled is gorgeous and much better vocally than any of adeles work imo
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Speaking of the double standards you were talking about earlier, you just contradicted yourself.
Why is it that it's fine for Britney to release tepid overly tuned music because 'the voice is not the most important thing' yet Alexandra's Elephant is generic because 'it does nothing to show off her voice' despite numerous tracks in her catalogue displaying vocal prowess Britney will never know of in her life? Whilst Elephant didn't break the mould the lyrics were different, and why was it so bad for Alex to try something different. She doesn't go around using autotune all the time and has stellar live vocals. She could do with some better songs but as a whole I think she's a very important female in UK/European music, not to mention the records she holds, so I'd hardly call her irrelevant. The lyrics aren't a problem in Elephant. I don't like the original version. The breathless version is lovely, but I dislike the original. Please, accept this because I owe you no explanation as to why I dislike it. Also, I never said the reason her voice is auto-tuned was because I dislike it. I just dislike it. Simple as. As processed and robotic as Britney's recent music is, it's better than that crap. |
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I have not contradicted myself. I never said the voice is not the most important thing to me.. I was talking about POP MUSIC in general. Do you actually f*cking read the posts you quote?
The lyrics aren't a problem in Elephant. I don't like the original version. The breathless version is lovely, but I dislike the original. Please, accept this because I owe you no explanation as to why I dislike it. Also, I never said the reason her voice is auto-tuned was because I dislike it. I just dislike it. Simple as. As processed and robotic as Britney's recent music is, it's better than that crap. You and I both know she can sing so slamming her for using Autotune etc while Britney is excused doesn't look good on your part at all. |
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Resorting to profanity is no way to make your argument sound any more convincing. I'm just saying that it seems to be one way for Britney and another for Alexandra. Again if you were talking about 'POP MUSIC in general' as you put it, why then does Alexandra's song have to show off her voice....? She can sing anything well so she doesn't need to go out of her way to demonstrate her vocal ability on every song.
You and I both know she can sing so slamming her for using Autotune etc while Britney is excused doesn't look good on your part at all. I don't think I need to excuse Britney for using it as I've not condemned anyone for using it. I simply said Alexandra's live vocals during the live performance sounded better. The song doesn't have to show off her voice, but personally, I think the breathless version is infinity times better than the original, hence my comments re. live vocals sounding better than the studio version (which IMO, is actually more of a compliment than a "slam"). |
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All I've seen on YouTube is nasal warbling and flat singing from her. Even in her early days she hardly ever sang live and with In The Zone and beyond she just gave up entirely. She is not a good singer so don't even try it. Where have I predicted the future? I've only said 'I hope' or 'I think'....it's hardly a factual statement. Twisting things to suit your poor argument is not going to work here sorry to say.
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You have no idea what you are talking about....Britney did the vast majority of her sets live when she started out...it was only with In The Zone that she started miming due to the extremely complex routines, and then after the breakdown she gave up...:
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Funny as I remember you telling me how Britney did vast majority of her sets live when she started out and it was only after The Zone that she mimed because of the complex dance routines, so what is it did she mime majority of the time or not?
I don't think Zack06 will respond, however, as when proven wrong.. seems to conveniently disappear from threads.
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Britney can get away with releasing autotned songs because she has never been only about the voice, she is a performer primarily, she never has claimed to be and her fans have claimed that she is a great vocalist. Despite that she became one of the biggest popstars of her generation and still has a career that the likes of Alexandra Burke would kill for.
Same goes for Katy Perry and Rihanna who also use autotune, they make sure that they are releasing the best popsongs they can to make up for the fact they'll never sell a song on their voices like Whitney or Mariah could. They will never be procliamed to be the best vocalists of their generation...yet here we have Burke fans saying she's the best British vocalist who also happens to use the same vocal techniques as Katy, Rihanna and Britney...why disguise her voice if its so good? If you look at the bars in the poll above, out of the ones that have significant votes she's the only one to use it...I would genuinely hate it if in the future when the look back at the vocal greats of the past and we have Alexandra autotune Burke representing this era...it would be shameful to have her put up their with Whitney, Mariah, Ella, Aretha et al. |
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Funny that, as I remember you telling me how Britney did vast majority of her sets live when she started out and it was only after The Zone that she mimed because of the complex dance routines, so what is it did she mime majority of the time or not?
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8 people voted for Cheryl Cole and 11 people voted for Cher Lloyd....
Anyone like to own up and explain why?
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Britney can get away with releasing autotned songs because she has never been only about the voice, she is a performer primarily, she never has claimed to be and her fans have claimed that she is a great vocalist. Despite that she became one of the biggest popstars of her generation and still has a career that the likes of Alexandra Burke would kill for.
Same goes for Katy Perry and Rihanna who also use autotune, they make sure that they are releasing the best popsongs they can to make up for the fact they'll never sell a song on their voices like Whitney or Mariah could. They will never be procliamed to be the best vocalists of their generation...yet here we have Burke fans saying she's the best British vocalist who also happens to use the same vocal techniques as Katy, Rihanna and Britney...why disguise her voice if its so good? If you look at the bars in the poll above, out of the ones that have significant votes she's the only one to use it...I would genuinely hate it if in the future when the look back at the vocal greats of the past and we have Alexandra autotune Burke representing this era...it would be shameful to have her put up their with Whitney, Mariah, Ella, Aretha et al. |
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8 people voted for Cheryl Cole and 11 people voted for Cher Lloyd....
Anyone like to own up and explain why? ![]() |
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Probably the same people who think that Abba are a bigger band than The Beatles.
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It's heartwarming to see that Beverley Knight is picking up quite a few votes. The woman is an absolute delight to listen to, and it's a crime that her last few albums haven't been given the recognition they deserve.
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It's heartwarming to see that Beverley Knight is picking up quite a few votes. The woman is an absolute delight to listen to, and it's a crime that her last few albums haven't been given the recognition they deserve.
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I find her later material poor, her earlier being rather good and underated but she is a great talent who is terribly ignored.
I'm worried that she'll change her style to conform more to the successful artists in the charts right now,
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I wasn't too bothered about her last album as it was just covers really, but 100% was brilliant! Loved Beautiful Night especially. I do agree with you that her earlier material was her best though (Shoulda Woulda Coulda springs to mind first). Just wish she was noticed more.
I'm worried that she'll change her style to conform more to the successful artists in the charts right now, |
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It's heartwarming to see that Beverley Knight is picking up quite a few votes. The woman is an absolute delight to listen to, and it's a crime that her last few albums haven't been given the recognition they deserve.
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Funny that, as I remember you telling me how Britney did vast majority of her sets live when she started out and it was only after The Zone that she mimed because of the complex dance routines, so what is it did she mime majority of the time or not?
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Thank you for dragging that post up
I don't think Zack06 will respond, however, as when proven wrong.. seems to conveniently disappear from threads.![]() Where are you Zackary...? |
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Britney can get away with releasing autotned songs because she has never been only about the voice, she is a performer primarily, she never has claimed to be and her fans have claimed that she is a great vocalist. Despite that she became one of the biggest popstars of her generation and still has a career that the likes of Alexandra Burke would kill for.
Same goes for Katy Perry and Rihanna who also use autotune, they make sure that they are releasing the best popsongs they can to make up for the fact they'll never sell a song on their voices like Whitney or Mariah could. They will never be procliamed to be the best vocalists of their generation...yet here we have Burke fans saying she's the best British vocalist who also happens to use the same vocal techniques as Katy, Rihanna and Britney...why disguise her voice if its so good? If you look at the bars in the poll above, out of the ones that have significant votes she's the only one to use it...I would genuinely hate it if in the future when the look back at the vocal greats of the past and we have Alexandra autotune Burke representing this era...it would be shameful to have her put up their with Whitney, Mariah, Ella, Aretha et al. |
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Hahaha truth! Especially the last post
![]() Where are you Zackary...?
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Sulking and bitching in the Alexandra Burke appreciation thread
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I'm worried that she'll change her style to conform more to the successful artists in the charts right now,
